Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

this could be one of the best things to happen to Campbell. his senior year at auburn( his best statistically) they ran a variation of the west coast offense. so the transition period may not be that long

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[quote=70Chip;420692]Everyone including me is assuming that Collins is a goner. But are assuming too much too quickly? What do you think the chances are that Collins stays? 1 in 10, 1 in 100? Personally, I think he would thrive in the west coast system. Just wondering if anyone thinks there is any chance he stays.[/quote]At age 37, he'll go where the money is.

And if that ends up being here, then we DO have an issue with the front office structure.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

My bet is Trent Dilfer will be the QB who comes in back up JC. TD is an UFA and a former pupil of Zorn. Most Wash Post articles on Jim Zorn's hiring contained one or two positive quotes from Trent Dilfer about what a great coach and leader Jim Z is, so Dilfer in Burgendy and Gold is a good bet. Not bad to have someone familiar with the WCO and who's a Super Bowl winning QB as your backup. He's also not a guy who will be itching to be the starter, but will be willing to serve as a mentor for JC. Strong man of faith to who would be a positive locker room influence!

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=OverseasSkinsfan;420760]My bet is Trent Dilfer will be the QB who comes in back up JC. TD is an UFA and a former pupil of Zorn. Most Wash Post articles on Jim Zorn's hiring contained one or two positive quotes from Trent Dilfer about what a great coach and leader Jim Z is, so Dilfer in Burgendy and Gold is a good bet. Not bad to have someone familiar with the WCO and who's a Super Bowl winning QB as your backup. He's also not a guy who will be itching to be the starter, but will be willing to serve as a mentor for JC. Strong man of faith to who would be a positive locker room influence![/QUOTE]

And we'd finally get the QB Norv always wanted here in the first place! (or was it Casserly that wanted him?)

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

This will not work out well for JC as the WCO is all about timing and getting the ball out with short passes. Campbell is a terrible short passer and is very slow getting the ball out. I predict by the end of the 2009 season he wont be the starter anymore.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

Well he has played in a WC based system before and had his best college season in it. But let's just ignore that.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;420771]Well he has played in a WC based system before and had his best college season in it. But let's just ignore that.[/QUOTE]

That was college. If we go by that Danny Wuerful should have been an all pro.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[quote=irish;420773]That was college. If we go by that Danny Wuerful should have been an all pro.[/quote]

Regardless, he should at least be familiar with some of the terminology and basic principles. It's not going to be brand new to him like Saunders' system was.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[quote=irish;420767]This will not work out well for JC as the WCO is all about timing and getting the ball out with short passes. Campbell is a terrible short passer and is very slow getting the ball out. I predict by the end of the 2009 season he wont be the starter anymore.[/quote]

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Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;420779]Regardless, he should at least be familiar with some of the terminology and basic principles. It's not going to be brand new to him like Saunders' system was.[/QUOTE]

True but his passing skills are just not suited for the quick passes that the WCO needs. Time will tell.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=irish;420767]This will not work out well for JC as the WCO is all about timing and getting the ball out with short passes. Campbell is a terrible short passer and is very slow getting the ball out. I predict by the end of the 2009 season he wont be the starter anymore.[/QUOTE]

As Zorn said yesterday, "Bummer!" He's a professional. JC is making millions as a QB. If he can't adjust and succeed, he's not what we need. My bet is he will make the adjustment and succeed and that Zorn will dedicate considerable energy to JC's success!

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[quote=irish;420785]True but his passing skills are just not suited for the quick passes that the WCO needs. Time will tell.[/quote]

We don't really know what type of WCO Zorn is going to run. Zorn's priority is going to be developing Campbell so I'm sure he's going to suit the offense to fit his strengths.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

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LOL

well played

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;420790]We don't really know what type of WCO Zorn is going to run. Zorn's priority is going to be developing Campbell so I'm sure he's going to suit the offense to fit his strengths.[/QUOTE]

I suspect Zorn's priority will be assembling an offense that can score more than 15 points per game. If JC can help them do that great, if not he's gone. I just dont see Zorn wasting 2 years on JC waiting/helping him to develop. 2008 is the make or break year for JC.

Re: How The Zorn HC Hire Effect Jason Campbell
 

[quote=irish;420801][B]I suspect Zorn's priority will be assembling an offense that can score more than 15 points per game. If JC can help them do that great, if not he's gone.[/B] I just dont see Zorn wasting 2 years on JC waiting/helping him to develop. 2008 is the make or break year for JC.[/quote]

Those two basically go hand in hand, no?

Personally I don't see the team giving up on JC after 1 season in a new system with a first time HC.

But hey, if it makes you happy to make ridiculous predictions have at it.