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Hog's Breath 02-21-2008 04:32 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
Not sure if you guys watched him in the Senior Bowl, but he looked awful. I don't even think he would make a good backup. He belongs in the CFL, not the NFL.

mlmpetert 02-21-2008 04:32 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
I really like Colt. I Never heard of this jackass thing, but if its true no way we waste our time with him. This top 100 in the draft has him last. If he turns out to not be a jackass and falls to 150 thats about late round 4, which I guess we gave up to get Pete Kendell.

[url=http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=775912]Rivals.com NFL Draft - Competition still heavy for top spot[/url]

schndr_tdd 02-21-2008 04:39 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
Tom Brady was a late pick so the experts arent always right

jsarno 02-21-2008 05:02 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[QUOTE=mauiRedskinbarn;424761]Brennen is one of the most accurate passers in this draft. Given he threw a few ints, his completion rating is still over 70% for three years. I live in Hawaii and have been watching him for some time now. He is the greatest thing that ever happened to Hawaii football, and had to deal with the preasure of the whole state on his shoulders week after week. There were many times this year where he wasn't having a very good game but would still drive down for the winning touchdown. He can handle pressure, and he has the composure to drive down for the winning/tying score. He is developed enough for a pro system, especially a passing system (Jim Zorn's system). I say if he falls to the fifth or sixth snag him and keep him as our third stringer, you never know who will be the next tom brady.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you.
I planned my trip to Hawaii for almost 2 years, and because I did that, I followed Hawaii football more than I normally would have. Even when I was there about a month ago (I was even staying on Waikiki beach when they had their parade and it was a shame Jones wasn't there), I talked with several people about Brennan, and he is nothing short of a cult hero there. Not a single person mentioned he had a poor "attitude". I think people that are calling him a douche bag, or poor attitude person are listening to a rumor by someone. I just don't think it's true.
Brennan is a winner, and you can't teach that. Sure he looked bad at the senior bowl, and he is a product of the June Jones system. But everyone is a system QB. Doesn't matter who you are. Because Brennan flourished in Jones' system doesn't mean he can't do well in another system. Tom Brady does great in Belechick's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Manning does well in Moore's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Please note I am not comparing Brady / Manning to Brennan, just pointing out how these players did well under the same exact system their entire career.
I agree with Mauiredskinbarn, this kid has something special. He had many comebacks that it looked and felt like he would singlehandedly put the team on his shoulders and will them to win despite large odds against him. If we can take a chance on a useless Palmer, why not Brennan? ESPECIALLY in the 5th round!!!

redsk1 02-21-2008 05:35 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[quote=jsarno;424805]I agree with you.
I planned my trip to Hawaii for almost 2 years, and because I did that, I followed Hawaii football more than I normally would have. Even when I was there about a month ago (I was even staying on Waikiki beach when they had their parade and it was a shame Jones wasn't there), I talked with several people about Brennan, and he is nothing short of a cult hero there. Not a single person mentioned he had a poor "attitude". I think people that are calling him a douche bag, or poor attitude person are listening to a rumor by someone. I just don't think it's true.
Brennan is a winner, and you can't teach that. Sure he looked bad at the senior bowl, and he is a product of the June Jones system. But everyone is a system QB. Doesn't matter who you are. Because Brennan flourished in Jones' system doesn't mean he can't do well in another system. Tom Brady does great in Belechick's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Manning does well in Moore's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Please note I am not comparing Brady / Manning to Brennan, just pointing out how these players did well under the same exact system their entire career.
I agree with Mauiredskinbarn, this kid has something special. He had many comebacks that it looked and felt like he would singlehandedly put the team on his shoulders and will them to win despite large odds against him. If we can take a chance on a useless Palmer, why not Brennan? ESPECIALLY in the 5th round!!![/quote]

Exactly. If we can waste a pick on Palmer why not Brennan?

I think people see him and think he's a "douchebag," however if you just listen to him he comes accross ok.

He'll most likely go before the 5th round but you never know.

jsarno 02-21-2008 05:46 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[QUOTE=redsk1;424825]Exactly. If we can waste a pick on Palmer why not Brennan?

I think people see him and think he's a "douchebag," however if you just listen to him he comes accross ok.

He'll most likely go before the 5th round but you never know.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know what Mel Kiper is saying as to where this kid will go?
(he's the only guy I really listen to when it comes to mock drafts)

jamf 02-21-2008 07:28 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
Taylor Jacobs is a great guy, We should give him another shot!

I would like a locker room full of nice guys but its not going to happen.
If he plays with a chip on his shoulder, That could give him the edge he needs to make it in the NFL.
I wouldnt Mind using a 5th on him.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-21-2008 08:01 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
The guy looks like a douche, but yeah that's really neither here nor there. I have read about him, seen his highlight clips and realize he's done a lot of good things. I do question, however, whether a 185 lb. QB can survive the hits that will surely come in the NFL.

jsarno 02-21-2008 09:33 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;424852]The guy looks like a douche, but yeah that's really neither here nor there. I have read about him, seen his highlight clips and realize he's done a lot of good things. I do question, however, whether a 185 lb. QB can survive the hits that will surely come in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree with you, however, his playing weight was higher until he got sick and lost a lot of weight. As the scouting report says, he has the frame to put on more weight and be NFL ready. Send him to Dunkin Donuts and he'll be fine. :D

prinzeofmoval 02-21-2008 11:09 PM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
Colt is a project piece..I think personally i would take him if still availiable late. He won't be starting material yet but fantasy world thinking if we nab Johnson we have Moss,cooley and El. If colt was back there look out

That Guy 02-22-2008 05:18 AM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
mel probably has him in round 5. that profile talks of a lively arm, but it sure looked like a total noodle in the senior bowl (and all the practices). plus he's short, slow, and 186 lbs.

troy smith was a MUCH better option last year, and he only went in the 5th.

dmek25 02-22-2008 07:09 AM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
no way. the second coming of Tommy Chang. i know everyone out there just said "who"? product of a good system. and sheriff, tell us how you really feel:)

EEich 02-22-2008 08:48 AM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
This guy is a run-and-shoot/shotgun-only QB... get him in a pro-style offense and he'll get killed. He lost his only game this year against real competition (I don't consider Boise State real). I heard (Sirius NFL radio) that many GMs (there are teams that have authentic GMs) don't think he's worthy of a roster spot.

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7820476/Brennan-has-to-overcome-poor-reviews-at-combine"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Brennan has to overcome poor reviews at combine[/URL]

Why would you draft a QB who's ceiling is backup?

EEich 02-22-2008 09:50 AM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[quote=redsk1;424825]Exactly. If we can waste a pick on Palmer why not Brennan?[/quote]

I mean this in the most respectful way. That's ludicrous reasoning.

redsk1 02-22-2008 11:19 AM

Re: What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?
 
[quote=EEich;425002]This guy is a run-and-shoot/shotgun-only QB... get him in a pro-style offense and he'll get killed. He lost his only game this year against real competition (I don't consider Boise State real). I heard (Sirius NFL radio) that many GMs (there are teams that have authentic GMs) don't think he's worthy of a roster spot.

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7820476/Brennan-has-to-overcome-poor-reviews-at-combine"]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Brennan has to overcome poor reviews at combine[/URL]

Why would you draft a QB who's ceiling is backup?[/quote]

I watched the Georgia game and his oline got him killed in that game so take that into consideration. He had no time and got killed.

I guess that's why i brought it up. CB got some poor reviews and is going to slide down in the draft. Are his weaknesses things he can work on? Strength, release points, etc. He's obviously got some major talent. Would he be worth a late draft pick?

Alot of the time late picks don't work out. Some do, some don't. Last year i believe we drafted Sartz, Palmer in the late rounds. The year prior we got some talent in the late rounds. Why not take a gamble or consider someone who's as talented as CB? We took a gamble on other players. Sometimes late round picks are gambles.

Of course our scouting dept/personell has got to do some due diligence etc. But is it worth checking out, sure.


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