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saden1 08-20-2008 01:25 PM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
[quote=firstdown;465709]12. On short playes like 4th and 1 fake the snap and have Rabach move the chains.[/quote]


:confused: I don't think you can do that.

GhettoDogAllStars 08-20-2008 01:34 PM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
You can if the ball touches the QB's hands. I can't remember what that play is called, but we used to do it all the time in backyard football. :biggthump

BDBohnzie 08-20-2008 02:15 PM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;465774]You can if the ball touches the QB's hands. I can't remember what that play is called, but we used to do it all the time in backyard football. :biggthump[/QUOTE]
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GhettoDogAllStars 08-20-2008 02:39 PM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
I was actually talking about the center snapping the ball into the QB's hands, and then pulling it away from him and running forward with it -- so, no fumble involved. It's only good for a yard or two (if that).

skinsfan69 08-21-2008 11:04 AM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
[quote=70Chip;465640]1. No one ever really properly defended the slip screen to Moss.

2. A lot more things go wrong with 5 man pass pro than do with 6 or 7.

3. The best play sequence in goal to go, is run pass run, regardles of the yardage needed.

4. Clinton Portis is the best ball player on your team.

5. Gadget plays work the best in the 3rd quarter and on 2nd down.

6. Special Team Trick Plays are way under-utilized.

7. In goaline, it's best to have two receivers run the baseline.

8. Don't lean too heavily on draws or screeens early on in the season.

9. Get your QB moving with designed rolls. sprints, whatever.

10. Only go for it based on the crowd in December and January.

That'll do.

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1. Actually that play to Moss worked in 05 but I remember that play being stuffed several times in 06. Teams adjusted to it but it wouldn't hurt to try it once a game. Back in 05 Gibbs ran that play in the dirt.

2. I've been watching that too and it seems we're sending out 5 guys a lot but in contrast the QB is suppose to get rid of the ball quicker. It looks like they had better start giving Jansen some help. Especially in the opener. No way is Jansen going to be able to block Tuck 1 on 1.

9. I think we're going to see JC on the move a lot more once the real games start.

SkinzzFan 08-21-2008 11:59 AM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
Only call plays that work, but don't call them too often. The defense might pick up on it!

70Chip 08-22-2008 01:06 AM

Re: 70Chips's Play Calling Advice for Zorn
 
[quote=skinsfan69;466014]1. Actually that play to Moss worked in 05 but I remember that play being stuffed several times in 06. Teams adjusted to it but it wouldn't hurt to try it once a game. Back in 05 Gibbs ran that play in the dirt.

2. I've been watching that too and it seems we're sending out 5 guys a lot but in contrast the QB is suppose to get rid of the ball quicker. It looks like they had better start giving Jansen some help. Especially in the opener. No way is Jansen going to be able to block Tuck 1 on 1.

9. I think we're going to see JC on the move a lot more once the real games start.[/quote]

Regarding #2, I think you have to play it by ear and mix it up. I think 5 receivers is okay from time to time, but my point was this: Too few blockers can lead to the ball going the other way very quickly. Too many blockers leads to Campbell holding it because no one is open. The second is infuriating to us as fans, but not as much as the first.

Regarding #1, my attitude is get the ball in Santana's hands early and often. You can make Cooley or Thrash wait a bit, but the sooner Santana gets it, the better off we will be. Once he makes a play or two he seems to get into his comfort zone and is capable of huge games. The Screen is any easy way to do that. If that particular play doesn't do it for you, draw up another. But, just keep him interested.

Regarding #9, I agree. I expect Campbell to be on the move a lot more than Hasselback was, even though its the same offfense. Jason is excellent on the move.


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