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this might be helpful [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/949198/posts]IRAQ/WMD: What did Clinton & Senate Dems know & when(HYPOCRISY=DEMS; SEE FOR YOURSELF)[/url]

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[quote=4mrusmc;526996]Yeah dmek, I think that the economy is in shambles. I also think that the so called rich people who drive this economy will hold onto their money and not be so eager to invest in the stock market, and "spread the wealth". Since Obama has taken the oath of office, have you noticed how the markets have reacted? This is by no means a coincidence. The true movers of this economy will hold onto their money, and ride-out Obama's term while we all suffer.

I'm still waiting for the people who said that "yes we can" fix it. All we have done is elect a black president, big deal, move on. I'm ready for some results, and not a bunch of rhetoric. I think we got enough of that during the campaign.[/quote] Not all wealthy people " share the wealth " , put preach the mantra ...[url=http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-fl/TOC2ERP9CMGVA1PKV]Charitable giving: McCain Vs. Obama - Topix[/url]

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We REALLY need football to start again !!!!!!!! Damn the offseason ,,, have a great weekend everyone !

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Seeing how so many members of Congress are under investigation right now I don't think they need to point fingers. This seems like cowardice to me. If they had a beef then they should've done it while he was in office. Those members who want to investigate Bush are the same jerks who voted to go to war in Iraq. Now that he's gone they want an investigation? They need to worry about now and not then.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;527092]Seeing how so many members of Congress are under investigation right now I don't think they need to point fingers. This seems like cowardice to me. If they had a beef then they should've done it while he was in office. Those members who want to investigate Bush are the same jerks who voted to go to war in Iraq. Now that he's gone they want an investigation? They need to worry about now and not then.[/quote]

Bush lied to Congress about the evidence in Iraq. I used to work for Senator Carper in Delaware and he said that Bush showed the people in Congress evidence that didn't exist.

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[quote=budw38;527052]Not all wealthy people " share the wealth " , put preach the mantra ...[URL="http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-fl/TOC2ERP9CMGVA1PKV"]Charitable giving: McCain Vs. Obama - Topix[/URL][/quote]
Nice research budw38. Too bad our man McCain couldn't make this a campaign issue. He was too busy trying to take the high road during the campaign, and look what it got us.....

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[quote=saden1;527003]How disappointing, I expect more from you and this is what you give me? You're really gonna play it like that? Your game needs to make major improvements if you want to play ball on this court.[/quote]
I'm sorry that I disappointed you with reality. I just figured that the people on Wall Street would have been ready for some "hope" and "change" the day after the big O took office. That's right, people with money are ready to open up their pockets and "sperad the wealth" to help this economy boom for a President and a Congress who are so eager to put up obstacles to prevent them from being wealthy.

Too bad our economy isn't reliant on the sales of Obama t-shirts, and other shwag with his likeness. Because that crap is making a killing.

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[quote=Duffman003;527131]Bush lied to Congress about the evidence in Iraq. I used to work for Senator Carper in Delaware and he said that Bush showed the people in Congress evidence that didn't exist.[/quote]

If you worked for Senator Carper then why didn't you do more research for him? I mean there's the Senate Intelligence, The State Department, The CIA, The Joint Chiefs, Naval Intel, the NSA, and countless other ABC departments.
Don't tell me Bush had all of those agencies in lock step with him when people like Collin Powell said it was a bad idea.
What about Bidden and Hillary? Don't tell me they were bamboozled into a war. All that hog-wash about being fooled into a war doesn't work for me. Actually if your stupid enough to get fooled into a war you don't need to be on Capitol Hill.
That may work for Joe on the street. He isn't privy to the same intelligence that Biden is and doesn't hear the same things Hillary does.
Those catch phrases may work on a college campus but not everyone easily subscribes to, Bush Lied and People Died, Compassionate Conservatism, or Shovel Ready. There are plenty of farms here in Varina with cow dung that are shovel ready. Can we get 120 mil? Go tell a vet missing a leg, gee I'm so sorry but that dastardly Bush lied to me. So what if he did? That just make you a sucker.
The point is that the Democrats played politics with the lives of our soldiers. If they had stuck to their principles then they would've voted no. Ron Paul did why couldn't they?

"Who is more foolish? The fool or those that follow him."
Obi-wan Kenobi

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[quote=4mrusmc;527160]Nice research budw38. Too bad our man McCain couldn't make this a campaign issue. [B]He was too busy trying to take the[/B] [B]high road during the campaign[/B], and look what it got us.....[/quote]
your joking, right? all McCain did was try to drag Obama thru the mud, not expand on the issues. this is why he lost, not because he had high morals

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;527170]If you worked for Senator Carper then why didn't you do more research for him? I mean there's the Senate Intelligence, The State Department, The CIA, The Joint Chiefs, Naval Intel, the NSA, and countless other ABC departments.
Don't tell me Bush had all of those agencies in lock step with him when people like Collin Powell said it was a bad idea.
What about Bidden and Hillary? Don't tell me they were bamboozled into a war. All that hog-wash about being fooled into a war doesn't work for me. Actually if your stupid enough to get fooled into a war you don't need to be on Capitol Hill.
That may work for Joe on the street. He isn't privy to the same intelligence that Biden is and doesn't hear the same things Hillary does.
Those catch phrases may work on a college campus but not everyone easily subscribes to, Bush Lied and People Died, Compassionate Conservatism, or Shovel Ready. There are plenty of farms here in Varina with cow dung that are shovel ready. Can we get 120 mil? Go tell a vet missing a leg, gee I'm so sorry but that dastardly Bush lied to me. So what if he did? That just make you a sucker.
[B]The point is that the Democrats played politics with the lives of our soldiers.[/B] If they had stuck to their principles then they would've voted no. Ron Paul did why couldn't they?

"Who is more foolish? The fool or those that follow him."
Obi-wan Kenobi[/quote]
Au contraire, mon fraire. i think your man Bush was the one playing the games. he was after the oil, and a legacy. didnt really end up like mission accomplished, did it?

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[quote=dmek25;527172]Au contraire, mon fraire. i think your man Bush was the one playing the games. he was after the oil, and a legacy. didnt really end up like mission accomplished, did it?[/quote]

Who ever said Bush was my man? Bush was a liberal. If he had a D next to his name you'd have said he was the best thing since sliced bread. If you want to spout of some sound bites then go ahead. They don't stand up with simple logic. At least Saden backs his stuff up with facts. You should be happy about Bush. If we hadn't had W there wouldn't be an Obama.

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the funny thing about the war is that in the end we have seemingly brought stability with elections. Violence is down and we will have the troops home, unless they go to pakistan/afghanistan.

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[quote=Duffman003;527131]Bush lied to Congress about the evidence in Iraq. I used to work for Senator Carper in Delaware and he said that Bush showed the people in Congress evidence that didn't exist.[/quote]
Then that's it, case closed. A career Democratic politician says that "Bush lied about Iraq". Bush must be a liar then. How convenient for Carper to make this claim, when public opionion pols swayed against the war. This just emphasizes the point of Democrats politicizing the war, rather than staying behind the President to get Iraq 100% stabilized so we don't wind up with another post-USSR Afghanistan, or worse a super-Iran.

Sen. Carper voted for the use of force against Iraq back in 2002 and has been fairly consistent in his voting patterns with most main stream Dems, funding the troops, but bashing Bush along the way.

[URL="http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Tom_Carper.htm#War_+_Peace"]Tom Carper on the Issues[/URL]

Keep in mind that a majority of Democrats, including those on the Intel committee supported the war. The "lies" Bush put out were delivered by Colin Powell. Is he now a liar too. Bottom line is there was bad analysis of intel from the CIA, which was headed by a Clinton hold-over. Bush didn't lie.

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here is some intresting reading, just for you, trample
So Bush's legacy hinges on Iraq, which is an unmitigated disaster. Instead of being forgiven, like Polk and McKinley, for his phony pretext for war (WMD and al-Qaeda operatives in Baghdad), he stands to be lambasted by future scholars. What once were his two best sound bites -- "Wanted dead or alive" and "Mission accomplished" -- will be used like billy clubs to shatter his legacy every time it gets a revisionist lift. The left will keep battering him for warmongering while the right will remember its outrage that he didn't send enough battalions to Iraq.
couldnt get the link to work. taken from the washington post

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[quote=dmek25;527172]Au contraire, mon fraire. i think your man Bush was the one playing the games. he was after the oil, and a legacy. didnt really end up like mission accomplished, did it?[/quote]
1991 , the war is about stealing oil , now htis war is about the oil , then why have not not taken the oil ? After almost twenty years you still make that claim ? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64&feature=related]YouTube - Gore criticizes Bush for ignoring Iraq's ties to terrorism[/ame] So Bush must have put this thought in Gore's head in 1992 .....