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freddyg12 02-18-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
Evans is solid, and I think it might just be semantics to get into starter v. 2nd string, cause he can play dt & de, so he might get more snaps than a starter in some games even if he's a backup. He can get a lot of time at dt in the nickel.

I think it's a good year to re-sign him, there shouldn't be too much $ out there in the market & he's not the pass rusher that teams look for & pay big $. I could see him getting a 4 year deal w/a bonus no more than 4-5$ mil.

PennSkinsFan 02-18-2009 10:52 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=Big C;527689]imo hes not a starter in this league. hes a backup defensive end who can fill in every once in a while capably. if he is a starter on any nfl team there is a problem imo. let him see how many teams will pay him to be a starter, when he realizes its zero he will accept a lower contract from us[/quote]

Yeah, but, we have no real starters at DE that would start anywhere else.

SFREDSKIN 02-18-2009 10:54 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
Let him be a starter but at the same time don't break the bank. By the way, I hate it when players start making threats.

Paintrain 02-18-2009 10:59 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;527719]Let him be a starter but at the same time don't break the bank. By the way, I hate it when players start making threats.[/quote]

What did he say that was a threat? He simply said he wants to be a starter. He's a free agent so there's nobody to threaten.

44ever 02-18-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=Mattyk72;527681]Evans is never going to be a "star", but he's a solid guy who plays hard and is a capable enough starter. I think we would be wise to keep him and dump Daniels.[/quote]

I meant to type "start" not "star". Anyway I agree for 2 reasons speaking of stars Daniels if he ever was a "star" will never become one again at [B]36 years old[/B] and injury proned.

Where Evens is turning 30 and has been solid. And has the ability to start and stay healthy.

SBXVII 02-18-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
Well, you can go look at my comment in the D-line thread. If we are looking to keep status quo then let him go. If we are looking to get younger then kick the older guys to the curb and sign Evans to replace one of them. Either way I get the feeling from some of the more knowledgable that keeping him or letting him go is status quo also. So I guess if all depends on if we want to get younger or not. If he's looking for the payday like Pierce got as a General of the defense or like Buffalo paid our O-Lineman then let him go. If he's simply looking for a few more dollars then last year then sign him. If he truly believed this team was going somewhere why would he want to miss out on a ring?

SFREDSKIN 02-18-2009 11:12 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=Paintrain;527720]What did he say that was a threat? He simply said he wants to be a starter. He's a free agent so there's nobody to threaten.[/quote]

Uhmm, make me a starter or lose me.

MTK 02-18-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=PennSkinsFan;527717]Yeah, but, we have no real starters at DE that would start anywhere else.[/quote]

Carter is a legit starter in this league.

SmootSmack 02-18-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
When did he actually say start me or lose me. He said he wants to stay in Washington, but he also wants to be a starter. And the two may not be compatible

PennSkinsFan 02-18-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=SmootSmack;527727]When did he actually say start me or lose me. He said he wants to stay in Washington, but he also wants to be a starter. [B]And the two may not be compatible[/B][/quote]

Exactly, basically he said it by inference.

PennSkinsFan 02-18-2009 11:25 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=Mattyk72;527726]Carter is a legit starter in this league.[/quote]

Well, I think we all have debatable opinions on that. I am not going to over value our players just because they are Redskins. Carter had 23 tackles and only 4 sacks. I don' think he applies pressure on a consistent basis at all. A starter on this defensive line? yes. On a good defensive line? Never.

MTK 02-18-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=PennSkinsFan;527735]Well, I think we all have debatable opinions on that. I am not going to over value our players just because they are Redskins. Carter had 23 tackles and only 4 sacks. I don' think he applies pressure on a consistent basis at all. A starter on this defensive line? yes. On a good defensive line? Never.[/quote]

I don't think he would start for every team necessarily but I do think he would start for a good majority.

I don't think I'm over-valuing him anymore than people here tend to under-value our players just because they are Redskins.

Scouts Inc. ranks him as a 76, which means he's a solid starter.

SmootSmack 02-18-2009 11:36 AM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
[quote=PennSkinsFan;527732]Exactly, basically he said it by inference.[/quote]

I don't think so, because he could end up deciding that staying in Washington is his best option even if it's not as a starter. Either way, I don't think it's a threat. The guy is a free agent and he's free to pursue what it's in his best interests. Just like if the Redskins let him walk they're doing what they feel are in their best interests.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-18-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
Looking at our roster, Evans is without question the 2nd best DE we have. He's also the 3rd best DT we have. If we let Evans go, who would we replace him with? According to the Times article, it seems like Evans will be the 2nd best free agent DE on the market. So, if we let Evans go, then the only place we can look to upgrade the position is the draft. If we let Evans go, the only way we can potentially upgrade the position is by using our 1st round pick on a DE like Orakpo or Maybin.

Personally, i dont want to be "locked in" to having to draft a DE with our first pick... especially considering we have few picks and multiple needs on both lines. Unless Evans is looking for some obscene amount of money, we need to resign him before free agency begins. Considering how much cap room teams have and the "slim pickings" at DE available in free agency, Evans could very well be "overpaid" by another team if he hits the market.

Evans has said he wants to start and he wants starter money... but starters accross the league make varying amounts of money. I certainly think Evans is worth a contract paying [I]up to [/I]1.5M/year on average. I certainly would be appauled if we let Evans go and kept Daniels or Taylor. Letting both go saves us over 10M next year... which is more than enough to resign Evans and either Monty or Golston, if not all three. Doing so would give us greater flexibility in the draft and keep the nucleus of a top 4 defense in tact. Even with the same front 4 as last year (Carter/Griffin/Monty/Evans), we should be able to put more pressure on the QB if we upgrade the LB position. Washingtons constant injuries last year forced us to play the diminuitive HB Blades at OLB which really hurt us. We certainly need to upgrade our defensive line, but getting a bigger OLB to replace washington would be easier to find in free agency (and probably cheaper too). IMO DE is a position we can afford to delay another year. if we make the right moves at other positions this year, DE, DT, and probably QB will be the only positions we need really need to worry about in 2010.

Trample the Elderly 02-18-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Demetric Evans ....start me or lose me
 
So . . . . Who starts if he doesn't?


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