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[quote=Schneed10;559061][B]Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan[/B] [B]divide in this country[/B]. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.[/quote]
maybe the most poetic post ever. while i do not agree with most of this past administrations policies, or the manner in which they carried them out, i do believe that they thought they were doing the right things. they just were flat out wrong, in alot of cases. but i do not wish bodily harm to anyone. but do not forget, that most of the far right is pro life. and with those lie a large amount that would sooner kill a doctor, or blow up an abortion clinic, to state their belief. so the hatred goes both ways

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[quote=dmek25;559081]maybe the most poetic post ever. while i do not agree with most of this past administrations policies, or the manner in which they carried them out, i do believe that they thought they were doing the right things. they just were flat out wrong, in alot of cases. but i do not wish bodily harm to anyone. but do not forget, that most of the far right is pro life. and with those lie a large amount that would sooner kill a doctor, or blow up an abortion clinic, to state their belief. so the hatred goes both ways[/quote]
Oh come on with the shooting and blowing up clinics. Every side has a radical fring but to say the pro life movement is full of these people is just crazy. When was the last time that even happened?

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[quote=dmek25;559081]maybe the most poetic post ever. while i do not agree with most of this past administrations policies, or the manner in which they carried them out, i do believe that they thought they were doing the right things. they just were flat out wrong, in alot of cases. but i do not wish bodily harm to anyone. but do not forget, that most of the far right is pro life. and with those lie a large amount that would sooner kill a doctor, or blow up an abortion clinic, to state their belief. so the hatred goes both ways[/quote]

I would never associate a radical minority's willingness to act violently with the sane portion representing the majority of a party.

That would be like saying all Muslims are wrong because Osama wants to see us dead. Or like saying all blacks are brutal to animals because of Vick and his boys.

I wasn't saying anything about democrats in general. I was simply addressing saden and saden alone. He's gone off the deep end, and as bright as he may be, he's too far gone with the bipartisanship for his opinion to ever be considered valid. If you can't consider that the other party may be right at times, and concede when they are, then your opinion isn't credible.

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i didnt take any of it personal. i wasn't saying that all pro lifers are nut jobs. all im saying that both sides are filled with over zealous idiots.

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I don't hate Cheney, I'm just completely dispassionate about his wellbeing knowing what he stands for and advocates. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting to give CPR to man who advocates for torture. If it will make you feel better I feel the same about world dictators who tortured people. Finally, what's truly sad is Americans with the Constitution in one hand and Dick Cheney's balls in the other and acting like it's a lovely day. I am not one of these Americans, and I don't wish to be that American, I hope you understand this and if you don't it's a problem you have to deal with. Is this all perfectly clear?

saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.

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[quote=Miller101;559064]Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that![/quote]
Yea Dude, I heard Cheney waterboarded the guy until he apologized to him. Who's wife did Cheney try to kill? You need to stop getting your news from democratsungerground.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;559063]It does seem absurd, this is twice, Rush and Cheney, recently where your rhetoric has been very antagonistic. I really am shocked by your disregard of someone's life because they hold a different, but within the range of our political dialogue, point of view then you.

[B]I don't quite get it, you at one point really lambasted me for not being scared or whatever towards the end of time, but yet you somehow see allowing the death of a fellow American that you could save. I don't get it [/B]:([/quote]

They are not contradictory positions and I am confidant you know the difference between the two positions.

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(psychology)[/url]

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[quote=FRPLG;559105][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_%28psychology%29"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(psychology)[/URL])[/quote]


Guilty as charged but do you see the irony?

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[quote=saden1;559101]They are not contradictory positions and I am confidant you know the difference between the two positions.[/quote]

I suppose I do, yet, I can't imagine ever being in the same place as a person in need of CPR and not perform it. One, if you are certified, it is your obligation, and two, if you know it but your certification lapsed, it would seem like a compassionate person would do whatever he/she could to save another life.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;559107]I suppose I do, yet, I can't imagine ever being in the same place as a person in need of CPR and not perform it. One, if you are certified, it is your obligation, and two, if you know it but your certification lapsed, it would seem like a [B]compassionate person would do whatever he/she could to save another life.[/B][/quote]


Even towards Osama bin Laden? I'm sure you draw the line somewhere and it just so happens Rushbo and Cheney are on the wrong side of my line.

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[quote=saden1;559108]Even towards Osama bin Laden? I'm sure you draw the line somewhere and it just so happens Rushbo and Cheney are on the wrong side of my line.[/quote]

Why did I know someone would take it to a terrorist/prisoner. But we are not talking about enemies of our country, but a former Vice President and a person in Limbaugh who is in good standing in United States society. Not a person who has devoted his existence to the end of mine or my country, regardless of political leaning.

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[quote=saden1;559096]saden wouldn't personally harm Dick and Rushbo because he's a lover not a fighter, saden wouldn't act if they were dying because he just doesn't give a shit about them.[/quote]saden posting in the third person is a ridiculous as some of his more recent posts concerning Rush and Cheney.

I really don't understand the venom/violent under(over)tones from some on the left towards people on the right who are vocal about their positions.

To Miller101's post: Clinton had some very shady business dealings, many believe Vince Foster's death was no "suicide", Clinton sent terror suspects to Egypt to be "interrogated" and you can be sure the Egyptians do FAR worse than waterboard. So would the world be better off without Clinton too?

How about debating politcal positions with facts/logic civilly and respecting other's opinions rather than using rhetorical half-truths/non-factual garbage and making statements about the other side being dead.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;559110]Why did I know someone would take it to a terrorist/prisoner. But we are not talking about enemies of our country, but a former Vice President and a person in Limbaugh who is in good standing in United States society. Not a person who has devoted his existence to the end of mine or my country, regardless of political leaning.[/quote]

Good standing is a bit of an overstatement don't you think? Dick shattered our moral high-ground and gutted and disrespected our Constitution and Rushbo the venom spitting drug addict who thinks people shouldn't participate in the recession are not in good standing.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;559111]saden posting in the third person is a ridiculous as some of his more recent posts concerning Rush and Cheney.

I really don't understand the venom/violent under(over)tones from some on the left towards people on the right who are vocal about their positions.

To Miller101's post: Clinton had some very shady business dealings, many believe Vince Foster's death was no "suicide", Clinton sent terror suspects to Egypt to be "interrogated" and you can be sure the Egyptians do FAR worse than waterboard. So would the world be better off without Clinton too?

How about debating politcal positions with facts/logic civilly and respecting other's opinions rather than using rhetorical half-truths/non-factual garbage and making statements about the other side being dead.[/quote]

saden always appreciates and values your input. saden also thanks you for your service to our country.