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SmootSmack 08-17-2009 06:24 PM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
[quote=BDBohnzie;576732]For some reason, I don't see this happening...which is dumb on the Nats part, as they should have taken someone else if they weren't willing to give this guy the Moon...[/quote]

Haven't they offered the moon? (Do they need to offer Jupiter too?)

ArtMonkDrillz 08-17-2009 07:09 PM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
Just heard on 980 that apparently the record offer they made was around $12 million. If that's the case I'll be pissed at the Nats.

JLee9718 08-17-2009 09:01 PM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
We'll know if we get Strasburg in a little less than 4 hours.

hooskins 08-17-2009 09:47 PM

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I heard the most recent offer was 17M

ArtMonkDrillz 08-18-2009 12:11 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
Stupid need for sleep. There's a good chance I end up back here sometime around 1.

GMScud 08-18-2009 01:01 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
Well, it's midnight. No deal.

Gammons said they could extend negotiations into the wee hours of the morning, so if anyone is staying up just to see if he's signed, don't hold your breath.

IMO they need to pay him whatever and get it over with.

ArtMonkDrillz 08-18-2009 01:06 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
I'm reading through the comments section of the Nats Journal on The Posts website and people are saying that the MLB network is reporting a $15mill contract.

Scotty Van P. just said they signed him as they signed off Sports Center!

GMScud 08-18-2009 01:10 AM

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Just heard it on SportsCenter- Signs for $15.7

No link yet

Redskins_P 08-18-2009 01:12 AM

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15.67 Million for 4 years. The Lerners did well. Finally.

GMScud 08-18-2009 01:17 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
[quote=Redskins_P;576855]15.67 Million for 4 years. The Lerners did well. Finally.[/quote]

If it was only 4 or 5 million separating a deal and a standoff, the Lerners needed to go ahead and just cave and pay. The fallout for not signing him would have been much worse than just coughing up the few extra mil.

I'm not going to tip my hat to the Lerners for doing what was absolutely mandatory for the Nationals organization.

GMScud 08-18-2009 01:20 AM

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If it's 4 years, I think it's more than $15.67M. ESPN's bottom line just said that the deal has a signing bonus of at least $15M. That being the case, I think the total contract value would have to be larger than the $15.67 reported.

mooby 08-18-2009 07:16 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
[quote=GMScud;576857]If it's 4 years, I think it's more than $15.67M. ESPN's bottom line just said that the deal has a signing bonus of at least $15M. That being the case, I think the total contract value would have to be larger than the $15.67 reported.[/quote]

I thought his bonus was like 7 mil. That's what I saw on ESPNEWS. Either way gj Nats for not f'ing this up and costing us what should be one of our main centerpieces for god knows how long.

BDBohnzie 08-18-2009 09:56 AM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
So I was wrong...but it was sketchy to say the least to have the contract signed at 11:58p last night.

Here is how it breaks down:
4 years, $15.1 million

Signing Bonus of $7.5 million
2009: $400,000, prorated for the rest of the season ($100,000)
2010: $2 million
2011: $2.5 million
2012: $3 million

over the mountain 08-18-2009 02:15 PM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
good job nats for doing the absolute minimum you have to do as a MLB organization (as said above).

unlike football 1st round rookies in the NFL who get paid bucks and start/contribute right away, baseball pays their 1st round rookies pennies b/c half or less of them will see the majors in 2-3 years. i think we you have a legit talent who will be playing in the bigs after a year or two (like weiters n strasburg) you have to pay them alil more.

markakis got a small rookie contract, played well for a year n half, then was hitting .300 with good power in the majors making less than 200k. the Os did the right thing and resigned him but could you imagine being a nick markakis, top 30 player in the bigs and making 200k while far worse players (mora) is making close to 8 mil?

in the case of the strasburgs and weiters (top end talent over 20 yrs old) you pay them more than you would an 18 yr old high school player b/c they are going to be playing the majors alot sooner.

go job nats!

jdlea 08-18-2009 02:29 PM

Re: The Strasburg Watch: Day 12
 
[quote=over the mountain;577018]good job nats for doing the absolute minimum you have to do as a MLB organization (as said above).

unlike football 1st round rookies in the NFL who get paid bucks and start/contribute right away, baseball pays their 1st round rookies pennies b/c half or less of them will see the majors in 2-3 years. i think we you have a legit talent who will be playing in the bigs after a year or two (like weiters n strasburg) you have to pay them alil more.

[B]markakis got a small rookie contract, played well for a year n half, then was hitting .300 with good power in the majors making less than 200k. the Os did the right thing and resigned him but could you imagine being a nick markakis, top 30 player in the bigs and making 200k while far worse players (mora) is making close to 8 mil?[/B]

in the case of the strasburgs and weiters (top end talent over 20 yrs old) you pay them more than you would an 18 yr old high school player b/c they are going to be playing the majors alot sooner.

go job nats![/quote]

That's baseball, though. It's not the same thing as football. Teams don't have to pay for performance early because they control players for longer. Once a guy gets called up, he's under your control for 6 years. The last 2 of those he gets arbitration, the other 4, the guy takes what the team offers.

Just a couple of years ago, when Prince was the youngest player to ever hit 50 jacks, he got paid $650,000, it was just this January that he finally got paid and that's only a 2 year contract.

Baseball players have longer careers and make far more money than football players if they're good. While I agree with the general point that if you draft premium talent, you have to pay for premium talent, that's not really the case if you take a guy pretty much where he should go in the draft.


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