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SmootSmack 12-21-2009 07:26 AM

Re: Jaworski breaks down the Redskins
 
His comment about wishing Davis and the other WRs didn't do "blackboard running" was interesting because isn't that essentially key to the WCO? To run exact, precise routes with very limited variation?

MTK 12-21-2009 08:00 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;643222]His comment about wishing Davis and the other WRs didn't do "blackboard running" was interesting because isn't that essentially key to the WCO? To run exact, precise routes with very limited variation?[/quote]

Maybe he's saying the offense needs more option routes?

Longtimefan 12-21-2009 09:25 AM

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He makes a great case for Jason Campbell. Being an ex QB himself he's well aware of how the word "development" cannot be understated. Great QB are not made in a couple years in the NFL, the very good ones have been around for a while.

53Fan 12-21-2009 10:25 AM

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Hmm, I always thought it was Vinny and Snyder who broke down the Redskins. :biggthump

bigmarley4 12-21-2009 10:46 AM

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I really liked that article. My only concern was that he still used terms like "long way to go" and "the clay is starting to mold" when describing Campbell. This is a 5th year QB, not a rookie or 2nd year guy -- my patience is worn out with waiting for him to be a solid, consistent leader and QB. I'm not a JC hater and would love to see him back here next year but we've been hearing that sort of description for the last 3 years.

hooskins 12-21-2009 11:16 AM

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Yeah, but his comments of JC dont lead to the conclusion that he not a good QB in terms of learning offenses. I think Jaws is noting how the constant change is the root cause of the issue, not Campbell.

hooskins 12-21-2009 11:18 AM

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Again JC haters can point to Aaron Rodgers, because he has a pretty bad line. But Rodgers has been in the same system for 2-3 years, plus he was groomed by one of the best in the business. I dont put Brunell or Collins near Farve, so lets not even think about that.

Bad Oline + constant change = bad QB play. I doubt any QBs would have succeeded here.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:19 AM

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Jaworski is good at breaking down film, but it seems like he already has an opinion about what he is going to analyze before he sees the film.

And here's a sentence from the article that I don't agree with.

[I]For the most part, he sees a team with Pro Bowl effort across the board and Pop Warner talent where it hurts most.[/I]

Calling the redskins, Pop Warner talent is somewhat demeaning. No matter how you judge the talent, I would take this version of the redskins over the one that started the season any day.

53Fan 12-21-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Jaworski breaks down the Redskins
 
[quote=hooskins;643289]Yeah, but his comments of JC dont lead to the conclusion that he not a good QB in terms of learning offenses. I think Jaws is noting how the constant change is the root cause of the issue, not Campbell.[/quote]

I agree. Everytime JC starts "getting it", they change the system. Plus we haven't exactly been restocking our 0-line with a bunch of studs over the years.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2009 11:21 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;643293]Jaworski is good at breaking down film, but it seems like he already has an opinion about what he is going to analyze before he sees the film.

And here's a sentence from the article that I don't agree with.

[I]For the most part, he sees a team with Pro Bowl effort across the board and Pop Warner talent where it hurts most.[/I]

Calling the redskins, Pop Warner talent is somewhat demeaning. No matter how you judge the talent, I would take this version of the redskins over the one that started the season any day.[/quote]

He tried to back that statement up, but I did think it was unfair to the players who have excelled recently. They haven't been facing Pop Warner teams, and have been increasing successful.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Jaworski breaks down the Redskins
 
[quote=hooskins;643292]Again JC haters can point to Aaron Rodgers, because he has a pretty bad line. But Rodgers has been in the same system for 2-3 years, plus he was groomed by one of the best in the business. I dont put Brunell or Collins near Farve, so lets not even think about that.

Bad Oline + constant change = bad QB play. I doubt any QBs would have succeeded here.[/quote]

I love the way Campbell is playing since the Broncos game. And I had this discussion in another thread - which of these has had more of a positive impact on the team in playing well recently: 1) Campbell's play or 2) the play of the offensive line ?

MTK 12-21-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Jaworski breaks down the Redskins
 
His take on that long run by Ganther is on target. Ganther doesn't have much straight line speed. Gotta love his heart, but that's the kind of play where you need someone to take it the distance.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:37 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;643299]His take on that long run by Ganther is on target. Ganther doesn't have much straight line speed. Gotta love his heart, but that's the kind of play where you need someone to take it the distance.[/quote]

... but if Portis is in there, is it any better ?

He seems to be saying that the team's talent at certain positions was that much greater at the beginning of the season.

53Fan 12-21-2009 11:48 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;643300]... [B]but if Portis is in there, is it any better[/B] ?

He seems to be saying that the team's talent at certain positions was that much greater at the beginning of the season.[/quote]

No. But I think it points out our need for a speedy young RB.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 12:21 PM

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[quote=53Fan;643301]No. But I think it points out our need for a speedy young RB.[/quote]

But I think the point he was making was in comparison to the redskins team and players that started the season to what it is now. Here's another paragraph taken from the article:

[I][B]"When you consider this bunch that's playing right now with what they started the season with -- the offensive line, the tight end, the running backs -- I mean, it's a practice squad team," Jaworski said.[/B][/I]


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