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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;644929]Albert, you are worth every dime of your contract. The man is a beast who wants to play, who wants to win, and who wants to physically beat the men in front of him. Dude is awesome. I have a big man-crush on the dude. He plays ball like the old school dudes did.[/quote]

Wrong. Do you remember guys like Dave Butz and Daryl Grant? Well these guys were old school dudes cause guess what? They didn't come off the damn field and they weren't soft.

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Let me ask you something 69. Do you think we're better without him? Do you think he has anything to do with having a better pass rush this year? Do you think other teams would rather play us with him...or without him?

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[quote=skinsfan69;644935]Wrong. Do you remember guys like Dave Butz and Daryl Grant? Well these guys were old school dudes cause guess what? They didn't come off the damn field and they weren't soft.[/quote]

Unlike Haynesworth, they weren't 350 pounds. Both of them were great players (Butz is one of my favorite Redskins), but I suspect it would have been difficult to stay on the field constantly if they were as big as AH.

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[quote=53Fan;644936]Let me ask you something 69. Do you think we're better without him? Do you think he has anything to do with having a better pass rush this year? Do you think other teams would rather play us with him...or without him?[/quote]

Nice!!!!!

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;644938]Unlike Haynesworth, they weren't 350 pounds. Both of them were great players (Butz is one of my favorite Redskins), but I suspect it would have been difficult to stay on the field constantly if they were as big as AH.[/quote]

Butz was one of the very first if not the first 300lb DT so he was way ahead of his time. Guy never came off the field and didn't play soft.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;644938]Unlike Haynesworth, they weren't 350 pounds. Both of them were great players (Butz is one of my favorite Redskins), but I suspect it would have been difficult to stay on the field constantly if they were as big as AH.[/quote]

As good as they were, I doubt they were going against as big of linemen as there are today either. Put someone like Suh beside AH, someone where he can't be double and triple teamed all the time and I bet you see a difference.

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[quote=skinsfan69;644934]Are you kidding me w/ this silly thread??? AH takes so many damn plays off it's not even funny. He's lazy, he's not in shape, he showed up out of shape and it's carried on all through the season and it shows up in his play. Who cares if he slugs a guy when D. Hall is fighting? That's not leadership! It's stupid cause you just got 15 yards. If your fat ass was a leader then you'd get in D. Hall's face and tell him to stop fighting and ball! Haynesworth is the kind of guy you can't win with cause your highest paid guy needs to be a leader by example....aka Reggie White. This fat ass is a joke and I don't care if I get flamed.[/quote]

How can you say that when he obviously made a significant difference in our pass rush this year? The guy is an absolute presence and if he wasn't double teamed half the time you would see how effective he really is. 53 said it right if you asked an opposing team if they wanted him in or out against them what do you think they would say?

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[quote=53Fan;644936]Let me ask you something 69. Do you think we're better without him? Do you think he has anything to do with having a better pass rush this year? Do you think other teams would rather play us with him...or without him?[/quote]

We're better w/out him. The defense was better last year. Yes we're getting more sacks but that's cause of Orakpo. AH will make a great play and then he loafs the next 5 plays cause he has no stamina. What do you think guys like Griff and Goldston think looking at this dude always come out the game yet he makes 10 times what they do? Sorry but give me two guys that hustle at half his price. I would've brought in Tank Johnson.

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[quote=tdSKINS1;644949]How can you say that when he obviously made a significant difference in our pass rush this year? The guy is an absolute presence and if he wasn't double teamed half the time you would see how effective he really is. 53 said it right if you asked an opposing team if they wanted him in or out against them what do you think they would say?[/quote]

Then why does our defense suck? If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.

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[quote=skinsfan69;644951]We're better w/out him. The defense was better last year. Yes we're getting more sacks but that's cause of Orakpo. AH will make a great play and then he loafs the next 5 plays cause he has no stamina. What do you think guys like Griff and Goldston think looking at this dude always come out the game yet he makes 10 times what they do? Sorry but give me two guys that hustle at half his price. [B]I would've brought in Tank Johnson.[/B][/quote] Tank, as in your football knowledge credibility with this post.

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[quote=skinsfan69;644952][B]Then why does our defense suck?[/B] If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.[/quote]

It's damn sure not because of AH. You can't really believe that AH taking KG or AM's spot is what has caused this defense to decline. There's a lot more to it than that, like our secondary sucking ass most of this season. All the talk about Landry missing tackles, Rogers biting on double moves and you're going to blame AH? Get real.

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[quote=53Fan;644956]It's damn sure not because of AH. You can't really believe that AH taking KG or AM's spot is what has caused this defense to decline. There's a lot more to it than that, like our secondary sucking ass most of this season. All the talk about Landry missing tackles, Rogers biting on double moves and you're going to blame AH? Get real.[/quote]

What I'm saying is he hasn't made the defense better. He's not dominating. He makes a nice play here and there but he not making a difference cause again he has no stamina. Reggie White made a difference and for the money he's making I want someone like Reggie White.

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[quote=skinsfan69;644952]Then why does our defense suck? If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.[/quote]

Our pass d doesn't suck Landry and Rogers bite on too many double moves

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You are painful to read skinsfan69. If I continue to read your posts I am afraid I might go insane.

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[quote=saden1;644966]You are painful to read skinsfan69. If I continue to read your posts I am afraid I might go insane.[/quote]

I dont know whats so painful,I thought he made a lot of good points