[QUOTE=Daseal]I never heard of defensive players always knowing where Spurrier was going with the ball. I know Gibbs and Buges came out and said that simply isn't true, but do you expect anything else out of the coaches who have a system that is currently struggling? Michael Wilbon was in the Browns locker room after the game and they said that they DID know where it was going. I think I'll believe them over the coaching staff.

Only time will tell.[/QUOTE]
That's because they probably didn't care about where the ball was going with Spurrier here, d-coordinators knew all they needed to do was blitz the hell out of the Redskins and they couldn't do anything about it. LOL

The whole knowing the plays thing was blown way out of proportion if you ask me. If Portis didn't complain after the game out of frustration we probably wouldn't have heard much about it at all.

And like Gibbs said, the few plays where it seemed like they may have known where they were going, the Skins picked up positive yards on those plays.

Every team knows tendencies of other teams, I guarantee you that in every game on sunday, somebody knows where a play is going before it happens. That's a simple result of watching film and studying your opponent.

still think that eventually spurrier would have done something. with a good D he was 8-8. year or two of adjusting, like all the first-timers need, he's got 10-11 wins. that's what i think. anyone here think we'd be in every game with george edwards as dcoord? but dude was right he DID walk away... although i wonder about that.

Daseal, just curious, if you were Snyder and you had your choice of hiring Spurrier or Gibbs, who would it be and why?

How many times have you heard a defensive player after making a big play stating he recognised the look the offence were giving and responded accordingly. Defences get an idea of what is comming it is up to the opposing offence to execute better . It is clasic Gibbs.

Also a good offence trys to disrupt what a defence is trying to do, not just by mixing up the looks but for instance hitting the seams on zone coverage, running through an outside blitz, picking up the blitz running max protect etc etc.

A lot has been said of Gibbs offensive strugles but the strugles have been blown out of proportion but remember Shottenhiemers offence, and Spurriers offence in year one with the revolving QB and year two the turnstiles on the O line.

[QUOTE=aehs77]Spurriers offense also never looked as bad as our's does right now[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: Yea right. Tell that to Ramsey! He might have somthing different to say about that. Our QB's where getting rocked last year.

Gibbs will get the offense on track. Give him a few more weeks.
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[QUOTE=Riggo44]:rolleyes: Yea right. Tell that to Ramsey! He might have somthing different to say about that. Our QB's where getting rocked last year.

Gibbs will get the offense on track. Give him a few more weeks.
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Yeah, and our leading rusher last year , Canidate totaled 600 yards for the entire season....Portis has 593 right now.
The passing game is struggling, but it will come around....it has to!!! ;)

Im sure if you ask Ramsey he'd prefer Spurrier. He'd be hurting, but at least he'd be playing.

Matty - For me, that's a hard decesion. If I had both of them sitting there with their previous records and I was looking for a coach, I would have picked Gibbs. However Im damn near certain Spurrier was told to step-away instead of doing it himself.

Gibbs would be 0-6 right now with Edwards running our defense.

[QUOTE=Daseal]Im sure if you ask Ramsey he'd prefer Spurrier. He'd be hurting, but at least he'd be playing.

Matty - For me, that's a hard decesion. If I had both of them sitting there with their previous records and I was looking for a coach, I would have picked Gibbs. However Im damn near certain Spurrier was told to step-away instead of doing it himself.

Gibbs would be 0-6 right now with Edwards running our defense.[/QUOTE]So you're saying you think Spurrier didn't quit and he was forced out instead?

What makes you think that exactly?

I'm not so sure who Ramsey would choose, he was losing some years off his life playing for Spurrier, literally.

Oh and I agree about Edwards, he was horrible. But who promoted him?

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]So you're saying you think Spurrier didn't quit and he was forced out instead?

What makes you think that exactly?

I'm not so sure who Ramsey would choose, he was losing some years off his life playing for Spurrier, literally.

Oh and I agree about Edwards, he was horrible. But who promoted him?[/QUOTE]


No way he was forced out, SS was in over his head, he wanted out, if he was forced out he would have taken the 15 million he had remaining on his contract, I know I would.

[QUOTE=EEich]It's taking Joe more time to clean up Spurrier's mess than we all thought it would.
I would have loved to see Joe work with a pre-Spurrier Ramsey.[/QUOTE]

I agree................. :food-smil

It's going to take time for Joe to clean up Spurrier's mess...........He didn't even know a player had been cut on Special Teams. The Redskins were sloppy with offside penalties and STUPID mistakes.........

Of course, Danny boy and Vince take part of the blame as well..........

You don't think it's at all odd Spurrier said I quit, then said "I didn't say that!" then said he quit again? I think Joe got the coaching bug and contacted Snyder, who pressure Spurrier out. That's just my guess.

spurrier would have done better with greg williams, but he would have never landed him...

[QUOTE=Daseal]You don't think it's at all odd Spurrier said I quit, then said "I didn't say that!" then said he quit again? I think Joe got the coaching bug and contacted Snyder, who pressure Spurrier out. That's just my guess.[/QUOTE]
I think Spurrier told his agent that he wanted out - but to see what he could get him out of Snyder. The news got to Snyder who told the world - not knowing (maybe?) Spurrier wanted out. Spurrier heard this not knowing his agent had started the process and said 'no, i haven't quit'. His agent then told him what he had done, and Spurrier conceded. Gibbs, hearing all this, thought about his son saying something about coaching and the bug started to emerge from the cocoon. And here we are.

I don't believe that Gibbs would have contacted Snyder in order to weasel in on a job.

[QUOTE=cpayne5]I think Spurrier told his agent that he wanted out - but to see what he could get him out of Snyder. The news got to Snyder who told the world - not knowing (maybe?) Spurrier wanted out. Spurrier heard this not knowing his agent had started the process and said 'no, i haven't quit'. His agent then told him what he had done, and Spurrier conceded. Gibbs, hearing all this, thought about his son saying something about coaching and the bug started to emerge from the cocoon. And here we are.

I don't believe that Gibbs would have contacted Snyder in order to weasel in on a job.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's the way I understood the whole thing, it was a miscommunication between Spurrier and his agent and word leaked out prematurely.

I don't think Gibbs was a serious blip on the radar until after Spurrier quit.

Snyder would have given Spurrier year 3, with changes in the coaching staff, but Spurrier reportedly wasn't willing to can his staff and that played a part in him walking.

I remember watching the final press conference of the year and Spurrier just seemed like a beaten man. I was initially surprised when he quit, but thinking back to the look of defeat on his face in that last press conference and that told the whole story.

I'll tell you one thing though, if Spurrier were still here we wouldn't be wondering where's Darkerian :laughing-