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[quote=GMScud;670350]I think rape and sexual assault are two different things. Rape is sexual assault for sure, but all sexual assault is not rape if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, this is really troubling. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat... Twice in a year is not a good thing. There's clearly something going on. I don't get it. He's a 2x Super Bowl champion QB. I don't care how chubby he is, he could have women lining up to sleep with him. Why is there any need for this kind of crap?[/quote]

I think that with forced sexual encounters it's more about dominance and control at that point than anything.

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Second time in 8 months. This guy is a moron, first the motorcycle accident then the 2 assault cases, some people never learn or realize how lucky they are.

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[quote=Mattyk;671060]It might be wise if he stayed away from the club scene. This is starting to become a pattern for him.[/quote]

Perhaps if he had worn a motorcycle helmet, he wouldn't be getting into these situations over and over.

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how do you sexually assault someone in a club?? what did he grab her ass or something?? lol. ben is a dumbass for putting himself in that position but i find it hard to believe an assault when on here. but ben really needs to get his act together and start growing up.

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Can we begin now to think character issues with Big Ben? Seems as though a pattern is beginning to develop that has a lot to do with him hanging around with the wrong kind of people.

Character is judged by the company you keep.

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[quote=skinsfan69;671075]how do you sexually assault someone in a club?? what did he grab her ass or something?? lol. ben is a dumbass for putting himself in that position but i find it hard to believe an assault when on here. but ben really needs to get his act together and start growing up.[/quote]

She could have been invited into a private VIP area, thinking she was going to party with some celebrities

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[quote=Longtimefan;671080]Can we begin now to think character issues with Big Ben? Seems as though a pattern is beginning to develop that has a lot to do with him hanging around with the wrong kind of people.

[B]Character is judged by the company you keep.[/B][/quote]

Very true.

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This is the exact reason why the Giants passed on ben in the 2004 draft. They knew his off the field actions were questionable and risky, even in his college games.

You are seeing the reason why right now. I'm starting to believe the 1st girl actually was raped by Ben.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;671100]This is the exact reason why the Giants passed on ben in the 2004 draft. They knew his off the field actions were questionable and risky, even in his college games.

You are seeing the reason why right now. I'm starting to believe the 1st girl actually was raped by Ben.[/quote]

Uhhhh, lets not get carried away here. I am not defending the guy, but if it took place in a club, well, I doubt its anything more than a misconstrued touch or dancing taken a little too far. I doubt he'd grab the girls head with both of his man hands, force it into his crotch area, and check her temperature with his meat thermometer all while drinking his 7 and 7, getting hypnotized by flashing strobe lights and getting a pounding headache from distortedly loud music. (All this with plenty of people around.) I just really think given the venue, this is prolly a money grab, but hey, who knows..........

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It's time for Big Ben and Little Ben to visit Mississippi.

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Tiger & Big Ben partners in sex rehab?

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The word on Big Ben in Pittsburgh is that he's basically a pussy pirate, or at least thats what my cousin tells me. Personally this could go either way. I mean if you were looking to extort an athlete for money Big Ben would be pretty ripe. I mean coming off a previous sexual assault charge and having the same thing happen again is enough to create doubt in the mind of plenty of people.

On the other hand there have been plenty of rapist out that have been charming and visible in the community with a positive image, enough that they're able to get away with whatever their hearts desire. Some are also really good at picking victims that would hypothetically lack credibility when it comes to a trial.

I'll personally wait for the evidence on this one. But initially it sounds like another extortion case to me.

Maybe Ben should just change his name, I mean this is the man that had someone impersonating him to get dates:
[url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05197/539012-66.stm]Man accused of impersonating Steelers quarterback[/url]

My favorite headline though is this:
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976276]Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger hires high-profile Atlanta lawyer - ESPN[/url]

Come on, what do they want Ben to do? Of course he's going to hire a high-profile attorney. It's like Ben hires former institutionalized inmate to prove innocence. The real question is what the hell is Ben doing in Millidgeville, Georgia? I've been to Milidgeville, theres nothing to do there.

[quote=Redskins_P;670211]Could Big Ben be a [B]raging alcoholic[/B] woman abuser? He certainly doesn't look like that type. But you never really know....[/quote]

The alcohlic part is something I'm starting to believe.

Exhibit A:
[url]http://uploads.filecabin.com/pictures/ben_roethlisberger_drunk.jpg[/url]
[url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E8BpJEni77I/SmY3lq5MFPI/AAAAAAAAKAo/P4oL0fqDrHU/s400/ben-roethlisberger-drunk-pictures11.jpg[/url]

Exhibit B:
One of the most telling side effects of alcohol abuse is weight gain despite living an active lifestyle:
Rookie Year:
[IMG]http://blackchristiannews.com/news/ben-roethlisberger.jpg[/IMG]

2009:
[IMG]http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/07/large_ben-roethlisberger-photo.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;671147]Tiger & Big Ben partners in sex rehab?[/quote]


Big difference between being addict to sex and a rapists. Rapists don't go to rehab they go to prison. IF Big Ben is guilty of this he and Tiger are not in the same boat by a mile.

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[quote=SmootSmack;671092]She could have been invited into a private VIP area, thinking she was going to party with some celebrities[/quote]

I think that they said it was in the bathroom

to me there's only one reason a guy and a girl hit the bathroom together in a club but who knows, could've been a tease gone wrong

the police "source" said it looked like she'd been crying for hours or something

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One of the interviewees from the club said Ben wasn't drinking but he was buying shots for people, I don't know