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I don't think the interest in Barnes is serious

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Is anyone else concerned we're looking at Ryan Leaf 2.0 in Jimmy Clausen?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;676168]Is anyone else concerned we're looking at Ryan Leaf 2.0 in Jimmy Clausen?[/quote]

Clausen AND Bradford. I think we should avoid them both at #4.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;676168]Is anyone else concerned we're looking at Ryan Leaf 2.0 in Jimmy Clausen?[/quote]

I dont think he will be bad, pretty average...we got that already in JC, average

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;676168]Is anyone else concerned we're looking at Ryan Leaf 2.0 in Jimmy Clausen?[/quote]


I would feel a lot better about Bradford than Clausen. That being said, I want a premier tackle.

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Is anyone concerned we're looking at Tony Mandarich 2.0 in Russell Okung?

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[quote=Buster;676170]Clausen AND Bradford. I think we should avoid them both at #4.[/quote]

agreed. i think either of them would be lucky to as "good" as Campbell is now.

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[quote=SmootSmack;676175]Is anyone concerned we're looking at Tony Mandarich 2.0 in Russell Okung?[/quote]

always a possibility but it would be tough to match Mandarich's bust level. He had to be juiced up to a dangerous degree.

The last o line pick that might be called a bust was Robert Gallery, but he at least earned a starting spot at guard for the raiders, till he was injured. O line prospects rarely are total busts (benched, out of the league, etc.), but some of course aren't as good as their billing. It's one of the safest top 10 picks IMO, if not the safest.

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is anyone concerned we'll do what smoot wants and draft Cadillac Williams 2.0 in CJ Spiller? ;)

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[quote=SmootSmack;676175]Is anyone concerned we're looking at Tony Mandarich 2.0 in Russell Okung?[/quote]

More like I am concerned we're looking at the next Gallery. Not a bad player but not a value at 4.

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[quote=SmootSmack;676175]Is anyone concerned we're looking at Tony Mandarich 2.0 in Russell Okung?[/quote]

Wouldn't that be more of a Bruce Campbell type?

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[quote=freddyg12;676177]always a possibility but it would be tough to match Mandarich's bust level. He had to be juiced up to a dangerous degree.

The last o line pick that might be called a bust was Robert Gallery, but he at least earned a starting spot at guard for the raiders, till he was injured. O line prospects rarely are total busts (benched, out of the league, etc.), but some of course aren't as good as their billing. It's one of the safest top 10 picks IMO, if not the safest.[/quote]

Fair enough and good points. Though I'm sure the Raiders didn't expect to spend such a high pick on a guard.

Still, I'm not sure why so many people want to keep ripping on Bradford and Clausen (Ryan Leaf 2.0 really? based on what exactly) just because they want an OT. Or why so few people acknowledge that are issues with linemen as well.

Oh well, it is what it is...SPILLER!!!!

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will barry simms sign here?

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[quote=SmootSmack;676175]Is anyone concerned we're looking at Tony Mandarich 2.0 in Russell Okung?[/quote]Nope.

I don't think there's a Manderich, a Leaf, or a Charles Rogers in this draft that we have to avoid at all costs. It's a historically great class with hardly any pitfall players (there are no Aaron Maybin's in this class).

I just think there's some obvious valuation errors by the consensus. But for the most part, particularly outside of the quarterback position, I think it's what you see is what you get.

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[quote=SmootSmack;676182]Fair enough and good points. Though I'm sure the Raiders didn't expect to spend such a high pick on a guard.

Still, I'm not sure why so many people want to keep ripping on Bradford and Clausen ([B]Ryan Leaf 2.0 really? based on what exactly[/B]) just because they want an OT. Or why so few people acknowledge that are issues with linemen as well.

Oh well, it is what it is...SPILLER!!!![/quote]

Based on the maturity issues that I keep hearing about, primarily.