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[quote=saden1;714163]You can include SS33 in that list too...it is really getting worse by the day and it's troubling to see their anger take over.[/quote]

You guys have very short memories because we had to read thread after thread of hate on Bush from you guys. Some of it was diserved but there was plenty of BS mixed in over the years. I don't hate Obama I just don't think he is a very good president.

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[quote=firstdown;714174]You guys have very short memories because we had to read thread after thread of hate on Bush from you guys. Some of it was diserved but [B]there was plenty of BS mixed in over the years[/B]. I don't hate Obama I just don't think he is a very good president.[/quote]

You will find none by me. Feel free to go look for them. If you don't think he's a good president that's fine but at least be able to justify why you think that with sound reason and credible protests. If you guys keep crying wolf about every little stupid thing eventually no one will believe you.

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I really don't know what this thread is about...start off with the impression that Obama admin released the bomber...then it was about "how he really wasn't surprised at the news".....now it's about "him not releasing a key letter" and how "he's not transparent." You guys and your arguments are a moving target but a slow moving target that's easy to pick off.

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[quote=firstdown;714174]You guys have very short memories because we had to read thread after thread of hate on Bush from you guys. Some of it was diserved but there was plenty of BS mixed in over the years. I don't hate Obama I just don't think he is a very good president.[/quote]

I don't know who you guys are, but you won't find one thread, and I dare say, one post by me bashing Bush. I'd be surprised if you could dig up one. Now I've disagreed with him, I've been angry with him, don't like him, but I can't recall starting a thread just to gin up bs.

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[quote=saden1;714180]I really don't know what this thread is about...start off with the impression that Obama admin released the bomber...then it was about "how he really wasn't surprised at the news".....now it's about "him not releasing a key letter" and how "he's not transparent." You guys and your arguments are a moving target but a slow moving target that's easy to pick off.[/quote]


They don't even know what the thread is about.

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[quote=saden1;714178]You will find none by me. Feel free to go look for them. If you don't think he's a good president that's fine but at least be able to justify why you think that with sound reason and credible protests. If you guys keep crying wolf about every little stupid thing eventually no one will believe you.[/quote]

I did not start this thread and I really don't know if the letter is real or not. I do believe that with another pres in office there is a good chance this guy would still be behind bars. After you spend a year going around apologizing for anything and everything, bowing to dictators, etc.. you start to look weak and thats what he has done. The guy killed like 189 Americans and our president did not see to it that the guy stayed behind bars. Something is totaly wrong with that and I don't think that happens if Bush was in office.

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I find this about as interesting as the Dez Bryant report. Overall, who cares, but it does show something about the character of Pres. Obama.

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[quote=firstdown;714189]I did not start this thread and I really don't know if the letter is real or not. I do believe that with another pres in office there is a good chance this guy would still be behind bars. After you spend a year going around apologizing for anything and everything, bowing to dictators, etc.. you start to look weak and thats what he has done. The guy killed like 189 Americans and our president did not see to it that the guy stayed behind bars. Something is totaly wrong with that and I don't think that happens if Bush was in office.[/quote]

I suppose Obama admin could have told the Scots "don't release him or else" but don't tell me he didn't try to keep him locked behind bars. And your little dig at "community organizers" is really shameful especially in light of the fact that you're part of your community and help deaf kids annually. Shame on you.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;714192]I find this about as interesting as the Dez Bryant report. Overall, who cares, but it does [B]show something about the character of Pres. Obama.[/B][/quote]

Yes it does...how amazing he is!

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[quote=saden1;714197]I suppose Obama admin could have told the Scots "don't release him or else" but don't tell me he didn't try to keep him locked behind bars. And your little dig at the "community organizers" is really shameful especially in light of the fact that you're part of your community and help deaf kids annually. Shame on you.[/quote]

Thats not a dig on him helping his community its a dig on his experience. You don't really know me but I encourage everyone to do some sort of volunteer work because I think it helps the person doing the volunteering as well as who they are helping. I believe I have encouraged other here to volunteer. He could have said release them or else but do you really think that the Scots would worry about Obama saying "or else"? I don't.

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[quote=saden1;714198]Yes it does...how amazing he is![/quote]

Yes, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Like the Amazing Houdini! He can do one thing and make you see another.

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[quote=firstdown;714199]Thats not a dig on him helping his community its a dig on his experience. You don't really know me but I encourage everyone to do some sort of volunteer work because I think it helps the person doing the volunteering as well as who they are helping. I believe I have encouraged other here to volunteer. He could have said release them or else but do you really think that the Scots would worry about Obama saying "or else"? I don't.[/quote]

How is being a community organizer a dig on his experience?

By the way, this is what the thread, and most Obama threads are really about. It took us a couple of pages to get here, but now we know.

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/25/obama-administration-reportedly-backed-lockerbie-release-transfer-libyan-prison/]FOXNews.com - White House Reportedly Preferred Scotland to Libya for Released Lockerbie Bomber[/url]

Fox news is actually reporting it right: "The Obama administration told Scottish officials last August that, although it opposed any release of the Lockerbie bomber, it would rather see him released in Scotland than transferred to a Libyan prison, according to a secret memo obtained by The Sunday Times in London." And the last statement of the release: "According to Britain's Daily Telegraph, Salmond on Sunday said the United States did not want al-Megrahi released."


So the Obama and the his administration never wanted him release and the title of this thread is misleading. end of story

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[quote=firstdown;714199]Thats not a dig on him helping his community its a dig on his experience. You don't really know me but I encourage everyone to do some sort of volunteer work because I think it helps the person doing the volunteering as well as who they are helping. I believe I have encouraged other here to volunteer. He could have said release them or else but do you really think that the Scots would worry about Obama saying "or else"? I don't.[/quote]

You can take stabs at his experience but it speaks for itself...it takes more than experience to be a great leader, see Abe Lincoln, arguably the greatest president America has had...2 years as a congressman vs 7 years as a State Senator and 2 years as a US Senator.

You are right in that I don't know you well but what I do know is that in your posts you have this perception that being a community organizer has no value and isn't a meaningful experience.

What makes you think that if Obama said "or else" no one will listen? Just ask Benjamin Netanyahu. You know, Bush has been telling the Iranians and North Koreans for ears "or else" through out his presidency and it didn't amount to sh*t.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;714201]Yes, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Like the Amazing Houdini! He can do one thing and make you see another.[/quote]

Has he mastered the art of Jedi mind tricks? If he has he can bring peace to the galaxy.