Re: Armstrong bad choice?
 

I will give Armstrong til game 3 to see if he can proudce, but I am with Jay on this in that we might be just delusional about what this guy can bring to the table. The second fade into the endzone was just good coverage, but the first one should have been caught, plus the other catch he missed should have been grabbed also. By the end of game 3 any jitters should be gone and he should have at least 6-8 grabs I would imagine. Either way, I see no way in which we don't draft a top WR in the 2011 draft. We need more targets than Moss and Cooley. Sellers should not be thrown to at all.

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[quote=Mattyk;733444]Gotta love the patience of fans.[/quote]
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Aint that the truth?

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;733527]~~~~
Aint that the truth?[/quote]


Yah, and his "status" as an UDFA who's 27 years old also has to be accounted for. No way people would be calling for his head like he is now if he were even a 4th rounder.

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I'm confused, hasnt it been one game? Didnt he have a good pre-season?

How about we just wait and see...

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I think it is more of a case where we overbilled the guy(ala Marko Mitchell), not thinking he is going to be a bust, but thinking he is going to be a potential stud. Even if he does pan out nicely, we still need to draft him some help. I think that is at the bottom of Jay's views. We just overhyped the guy like we did last preseason with Mitchell, Thomas, and Kelly, only to be crapped on when the smoke cleared. We thought the world of the guy in the preseason, even when the body of work wasn't all that spectacular, then showtime came, and he didn't show us anything that we allowed ourselves to be hyped up about.

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[quote=jsarno;733424]What was with all the love for this guy, then he dropped a TD that he really needed to catch?
Granted, first game, but I watched some routes and I was not all impressed. Anyone else care to shed some light on this guy?[/quote]


Check out the other thread here that says the Redskins' WRs are really good and should not be taking the criticism they have taken for the last - - I don't know - - three years.

Following that logic, your criticism of AA is premature, unwarranted, ill-advised and ignorant.

Carry on... ;)

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;733544]Check out the other thread here that says the Redskins' WRs are really good and should not be taking the criticism they have taken for the last - - I don't know - - three years.

[B]Following that logic, your criticism of AA is premature, unwarranted, ill-advised and ignorant.[/B]

Carry on... ;)[/quote]

THAT should do it!
.........and correctly so.........

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Other than Moss they(recent Skin WRs) haven't been very good for the past several years. The only other WR that actually really produced in decent numbers in recent memory was, dare I say it, Rod Gardner. Before that, you had the dynamic duo of Michael Westbrook and Albert Connell. Not the best trio overall, but better than what we have today. As for being ignorant, I am not sure Jsarno is guilty of that. The hype of last season over our WRs was incredible. We were supposed to see Thomas and Kelly breakout remember? Mitchell gave some guys hard ons. What did they do? A whole lot of nothing!!! The 3 WRs I previously named performed decently, but were not stellar and received tons of criticism for too many drops, health problems, etc like our current bunch, but the older guys did produce. In short, we let ourselves get too geeked up about a WR corp that really isn't so stellar, and doesn't look like they are going to get the numbers that we were hoping for. Face it, we have one stud, with an old geezer and a trio of younger guys that have the equal chance of being studs or duds. Thus far with Thomas and Kelly, you don't have any numbers that are very promising, do you?

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[quote=jsarno;733424]What was with all the love for this guy, then he dropped a TD that he really needed to catch?
Granted, first game, but I watched some routes and I was not all impressed. Anyone else care to shed some light on this guy?[/quote]

Wow just like that huh?
A couple of drops and boom he's the wrong choice?

What routes did you watch?
Lets deal in [I][U][B]specifics[/B][/U][/I].
Lets talk targets down and distance.
Lets not just make blanket unsupported statements.

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Uh Oh, Uh Oh, the sky is falling! Look, do you see.

Look it was one game. and..... we won. Can we savour this win before we have to move on to the next team from the same state that only has Steer's and Queer's? On a side note I didn't see Galloway, R.Williams, Thomas, or Banks doing much either. Oh and I failed to see TE Davis do much either. It seemed that this game was the Portis, Moss, and Cooley show. I too felt AA was being held on one of the TD passes. The defenders left hand pulls on AA's right shoulder turning him just enough so he doesn't catch the ball and it bounces out of his hands. I was pissed that it wasn't interference and given 4 more downs. We probably should have kept Tryon cause Rogers couldn't catch a cold all night either. JK.

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[quote=SBXVII;733579]Uh Oh, Uh Oh, the sky is falling! Look, do you see.

Look it was one game. and..... we won. Can we savour this win before we have to move on to the next team from the same state that only has Steer's and Queer's? On a side note I didn't see Galloway, R.Williams, Thomas, or Banks doing much either. Oh and I failed to see TE Davis do much either. It seemed that this game was the Portis, Moss, and Cooley show. I too felt AA was being held on one of the TD passes. The defenders left hand pulls on AA's right shoulder turning him just enough so he doesn't catch the ball and it bounces out of his hands. I was pissed that it wasn't interference and given 4 more downs. We probably should have kept Tryon cause Rogers couldn't catch a cold all night either. JK.[/quote]


I agree, but I think the overeaction is due to the hype we have given these newbies. Can't quit on AA after one game, but face it we have been overhyping our young WR corp for two seasons with nothing to really justify it. Armstrong is just the newest member in a cast that has been said by most in this forum to be ready to bust out. I don't think people would be so impatient if the hype/ kool aid machine wasn't turned up so much. That just leads to unrealistic expectations.

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I am sure I have heard a saying...
Patience is a bird in the bush....no
Patience is overrated...no
Oh a "virtue"...Patience is a virtue.

Seems to apply.

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Week 1 ... We Won the game 13-7 and are 1-0

However Armstrong is a cool choice to have around but how about as a 4th WR .. DT #11 should get his way into the lineup at somepoint, think of how last season he finished strong.. that reverse against NY comes to mind along with the Saints game ... It has to be Moss,Thomas,then Galloway or Armstrong .. who are we kidding here ?? All that being said ... If we can somehow get Vincent Jackson we have to make that move ... this team has to much MoJo and hype to go all year with the hopes of Moss making every play .. I agree Davis needs to get more involved which I think will happen as well ... sorry for the rambling but i'm just not comfortable with Armstrong but i'm not giving up on the guy either .... Maybe we should put D.Hall as the IronMan

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[quote=GusFrerotte;733595]I agree, but I think the overeaction is due to the hype we have given these newbies. Can't quit on AA after one game, but face it we have been overhyping our young WR corp for two seasons with nothing to really justify it. Armstrong is just the newest member in a cast that has been said by most in this forum to be ready to bust out. I don't think people would be so impatient if the hype/ kool aid machine wasn't turned up so much. That just leads to unrealistic expectations.[/quote]

I agree and in this case the point about overreacting applies to everyone. We just really need to wait and see, just as it's over-hyping on one end, it's the complete opposite on the other end and neither is a valid conclusion at this point in the season.

To me AA is a good story, and a guy that by all accounts worked his butt off to make this team. If he can give us something on offense (which our coaches must think he can) than we got something. I dont think it's going to change the fact that we need WR help because even if he pans out we're getting up there in age at the position. It's just a bit silly to be talking about a "bad choice" already, imo.

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[quote=Ruhskins;733436]As I stated before, maybe [B]5'11" WRs[/B] shouldn't be thrown endzone fade passes designed for tall wideouts. I know that he screwed up that first pass, but still I felt a taller wideout should've been in the receiving end of that pass (well, actually we should've run the ball at least once.

Plus this guy needs to develop rhythm with DMc (and vice versa).[/quote]

Devin Thomas should have been thrown to in that situation