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SmootSmack 10-27-2010 04:32 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;753037]Haslett has already half-admitted defeat when he started showing the 4-man fronts with two down linemen and two OLBs standing up on the line of scrimmage.[/quote]

Except for the fact that since last spring the Skins have been saying they'd be showing various 4 fronts, including 4-man fronts

SirClintonPortis 10-27-2010 05:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;753040]Except for the fact that since last spring the Skins have been saying they'd be showing various 4 fronts, including 4-man fronts[/quote]

That's what they said, but that's not what they did initially.

SmootSmack 10-27-2010 06:05 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;753051]That's what they said, but that's not what they did initially.[/quote]

They've been showing 4 man fronts since the season opener

GTripp0012 10-27-2010 06:15 PM

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Nickel and Dime packages has been almost entirely a four man front. Well, an "even" front with no nose, at least.

Where we've been a 3-4 defense is in base sets. If the opponent has 2 WRs or fewer on the field, we usually have 3 linemen in the game.

A couple of changes just recently: our short yardage defense has moved to a four man concept on the line ((Haynesworth/Carriker) with (Golston/Kemo)), where before it was either a standard 3-4 or that ninja/amoeba type look. This, not surprisingly, has coincided with an improvement in short yardage defense.

The reason for this "multiple" defense: it allows us to have 3-4 LBs in the game at all times. The 4-3 would force us to take a LB off the field for every additional DB we wanted on. If we wanted to play dime with Buchanon/Doughty at DBs, it'd be just Fletcher at LB. This way, we can get Fletcher, McIntosh, and Alexander all on the field (plus Carter in the nickel), and have our best pass rushers to get after the quarterback.

We have good nickel personnel this year, mostly because Buchanon has been a pleasant surprise at corner.

GusFrerotte 10-27-2010 06:24 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;753051]That's what they said, but that's not what they did initially.[/quote]


Nope, Smooty is right. The first couple games I was able to see on TV early in the season they did have 4 man fronts often.

Glen Williams 10-28-2010 05:45 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;750927]The Redskins defense is giving up 420 yards per game thru 6 games in the 2010 season.

The NFL record for the most yards per game yielded over a season was in 1980 (or maybe 1981) by the Indianapolis Colts. They gave up 424 yards per game.

That means after 6 games, the Indy Colts record-setting defense had given up only 24 more yards for the year that the 2010 Skins.

The record is there for the taking...[/quote]

For one that's not gonna happen.
Second why are so many skins fans haters?
Be happy. We may allow a lot of yards but what matters is points.

SirClintonPortis 10-28-2010 07:11 PM

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[quote=Glen Williams;753283]For one that's not gonna happen.
Second why are so many skins fans haters?
Be happy. We may allow a lot of yards but what matters is points.[/quote]

It's called being aware that we're not close to being the best. Neither on the stat sheet nor on the tape.

[url=http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=13152]Delusions of Mediocrity (Seventh Edition) - Gatherer - Magic: The Gathering[/url]

[I]"When nothing but second best will do."[/I]

Glen Williams 10-28-2010 07:13 PM

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No one said we were the best.
We are improving.
We have improved.
Crying about stat sheets is not gonna help anything.


Ok Sir?

12thMan 10-28-2010 07:36 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;750988]If we are 4-3 after this weekend, I could give a sh*t[/quote]

You mean 5-3?

12thMan 10-28-2010 07:50 PM

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I guess it's also worth noting, as Slingin Sammy somewhat alluded to, we've given up the least amount of points in the NFC East and are in the middle of pack in the NFL, in terms of total points allowed. The San Diego Chargers, on the other hand, are ranked 1# in total defense, yet they sit at 2-5 right now.

So while the stats are a bit troubling, they don't really tell the whole story.

SirClintonPortis 10-28-2010 08:30 PM

Re: Redskins Have An All-Time Record In Their Sights
 
[quote=12thMan;753313]I guess it's also worth noting, as Slingin Sammy somewhat alluded to, we've given up the least amount of points in the NFC East and are in the middle of pack in the NFL, in terms of total points allowed. The San Diego Chargers, on the other hand, are ranked 1# in total defense, yet they sit at 2-5 right now.

So while the stats are a bit troubling, they don't really tell the whole story.[/quote]

Special teams is always forgotten because there aren't any real ranks for it.

GTripp0012 10-29-2010 01:01 PM

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[quote=12thMan;753313]I guess it's also worth noting, as Slingin Sammy somewhat alluded to, we've given up the least amount of points in the NFC East and are in the middle of pack in the NFL, in terms of total points allowed. The San Diego Chargers, on the other hand, are ranked 1# in total defense, yet they sit at 2-5 right now.

So while the stats are a bit troubling, they don't really tell the whole story.[/quote]Part of the "whole story" we're not getting from rankings based on yards (outside of the fact that 'special teams matter') is that the Chargers offense has turned the ball over on an insane 21% of its drives.

But for those keeping track, barely a third of their turnovers have been Rivers interceptions. It's their offensive line that is responsible for increased sack-fumbles, and receivers are just coughing up footballs at an alarming rate in San Diego.

Put simply, while SD is much better than their record, anyone who thinks SD is the best offense in football is using the wrong stats. They're not as good on offense as they were last season.

Chico23231 10-29-2010 01:04 PM

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[quote=12thMan;753312]You mean 5-3?[/quote]

well yes now that its a week later

InsaneBoost 10-29-2010 01:40 PM

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Should have known this wasn't serious :(

KLHJ2 10-29-2010 02:03 PM

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If it's week eight then why are we only using stats from the first 6 weeks. Oh, that's right because it will dilute the stats.

How is this for a stat? Through those first 6 weeks our D face a top 10 offense 4 times. The other 2 matchups were against number 11 and number 22. We haven't exactly been playing teams that cannot move the ball.


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