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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;772903]I wholeheartedly disagree. [B][I]In all likelihood, Coughlin gets an extension if the Giants make the playoffs, which is good for the skins. If the Giants miss the playoffs, Coughlin's fired, Cowher is likely hired, and the Giants will be a really really good football team for the next 10-15 years. For the skins long-term benefit, we need to hope Giants make the playoffs and keep coughlin around another few years. [/I][/B] That way, the Giants will stay mediocre and Cowher can go to an AFC team.

However, If the skins do win, then it makes me feel much more confident in our team. I realize its just a 1 game difference, a 7-9 team seems infinately better than a 6-10 team to me. We are what we are, but in my opinion, we're about as good of a 6-9 team as we could be now. In the 15 games we've played so far, we've either had the lead, or been within a score of taking the lead, in 13 of the 15 games we've played this year. If Shanahan can do that with the atrocious "talent" we have on our roster, imagine how well we would have played if he had inherited a halfway decent roster or there had been a decent free agent class this past offseason. if Shanahan can bring in a bunch of high-character, highly competitive, well-priced, slightly-above-average free agents (as opposed to one or vincent jackson/Larry Fitzgerald types, we could have a scary good team next year.[/quote]
I disagree with everything bolded. Even if the Giants make the playoffs, short of another SB run, Coughlin's not getting extended. Ownership will let him go into a walk year and see what happens.

If the Giants miss the playoffs there's about a 35% chance he gets fired. Even if he does get fired, Cowher won't be the coach there. He doesn't fit the mold or culture of what they are about.

Finally, the Giants have owned us since Coughlin has been there (won like 9 of last 10) so it's not really a benefit if he's there.

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Yeah I'm kind of baffled as to why it's a good thing for Coughlin to remain in New York? The last success we had against the Giants was back in Gibbs II.

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[quote=DM72;772906]Cowher is overrated.[/quote]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/?v=wFmlasiC040[/url]

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[quote=skinsguy;772941]Yeah I'm kind of baffled as to why it's a good thing for Coughlin to remain in New York? The last success we had against the Giants was back in Gibbs II.[/quote]

To be honest, we have never had good success against the Giants. Even when we were one of the best teams, they usually beat us.

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We can play spoiler to the Jags and Giants...I love that. :)

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[quote=DM72;772906]Cowher is overrated.[/quote]

I 3rd it

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[quote=skinsguy;772941]Yeah I'm kind of baffled as to why it's a good thing for Coughlin to remain in New York? The last success we had against the Giants was back in Gibbs II.[/quote]

[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/27/tom-coughlins-skid-has-bill-cowhers-name-resurfacing-in-new-yo/]Tom Coughlin's Skid has Bill Cowher's Name Resurfacing in New York -- NFL FanHouse[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;772898]Would be a heck of a way to end the season ruining the Giants playoff hopes.[/quote]



LOL.....not even close, the Giants did that against the Eagles and the Packers the Skins have nothing to do with it.

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[quote=Buster;772950]We can play spoiler to the Jags and Giants...I love that. :)[/quote]


..........LOL, as I said before ....no you can't.

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[quote=Giantone;772999]LOL.....not even close, the Giants did that against the Eagles and the Packers the Skins have nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Well, don't you have to win or tie this week and get some help? How can you say the Skins have nothing to do with it?

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[quote=DM72;772948]To be honest, we have never had good success against the Giants. Even when we were one of the best teams, they usually beat us.[/quote]

It was about half and half. The Giants owned us pretty much during their Super Bowl years, but the Redskins beat them as well.

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I know our season is lost, but I really don't want the Skins to have that double digit in the loss column. Come on 7-9!!!! Hey 7-9 might win the NFC West! lol

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[quote=Giantone;773000]..........LOL, as I said before ....no you can't.[/quote]

You know if you win and the Bears win, you're in. So the Redskins can still play spoiler.

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[quote=Giantone;772999]LOL.....not even close, the Giants did that against the Eagles and the Packers the Skins have nothing to do with it.[/quote]

You might want to do your home work next time......The SKINS have a lot to do with it! WE CAN RUIN YOUR POST SEASON DREAMS!

[B]The Giants are finally back home[/B]

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 28, 2010, 11:41 AM EST
[IMG]http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/giantsdeplane.jpeg?w=250[/IMG]The Giants have landed.
After their second road trip odyssey of the month, the team finally returned to New Jersey around 11:00 a.m. ET. The team was forced to stay in Wisconsin overnight (again) Monday before taking an early flight home Tuesday morning.


[B]They will begin preparing on what is essentially a short week for the Redskins. The Giants need a victory in Washington and a Packers loss to make the playoffs.[/B]


The Jets, meanwhile, [URL="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-finally-escape-chicago-via-newburgh-1.2572370"]got home late Monday night[/URL] after flying in to Newburgh, New York. They took buses from there, ensuring that the Jets got home before the Giants just like they made the playoffs before Big Blue.

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[quote=Mattyk;773029]Well, don't you have to win or tie this week and get some help? How can you say the Skins have nothing to do with it?[/quote]

LOL...YES I KNOW ALL THE SCENARIOS....but I'm old school and I don't believe in backing into the playoffs,you either earn it or you don't .The Giants had not one but 2 win and your in games and played like crap in both ....they don't deserve to get in and if they do there is a chance Coughlin could stay and I believe that is the worst thing that can happen to the Giants.:soapbox: