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[quote=Monkeydad;804823]Son of Man - I like your inclusion of Darrel Young at FB...really think Sellers will be gone?[/quote]

I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

Hey, I've complimented you plenty of times...have to throw the newbs some bones too. :D

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

See Smootsmack knows what it's like. By the way I'm extremely offended that no one noticed [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Fulton"]Xavier Fulton[/URL] on my opening day roster. Like "hey dirt that's awesome. I didn't know we already had someone that awesome on our roster. You're AWESOME."

Fulton was signed on 20 December 2010.[25] On January 3, 2010, Fulton signed a futures contract with the team for the 2011 season.[26]

[quote=Monkeydad;804824]Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url][/quote]

I think to many of you are overlooking Royster. Personally I feel that Shanahan liked Royster more but felt like he would be available much later then Helu, hence the trade up for Helu. If anything Royster is capable of doing everything; catching, blocking, running. The RB trifecta. Sure he's only good and not great in all three areas but hopefully we can change that.

Besides we've already established that Shanahan feels Royster is the next T. Davis not to mention he has scary parallels to Jim Brown.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804824]Here's a bold prediction - Helu will "flat out beat" Torain for the starting RB job on opening day.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/27/11/Point-Counterpoint-Sorting-out-the-runni/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=529510&feedID=6355]Point-Counterpoint: Sorting out the running backs[/url][/quote]

very bold indeed i kinda like it

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I debated including Fulton, even Doug Dutch

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[quote=Dirtbag59;804830]
I think to many of you are overlooking Royster. Personally I feel that Shanahan liked Royster more but felt like he would be available much later then Helu, hence the trade up for Helu. If anything Royster is capable of doing everything; catching, blocking, running. The RB trifecta. Sure he's only good and not great in all three areas but hopefully we can change that.
[/quote]

I definitely think Royster will be a solid back and contribute, especially if Torain goes down.

Remember Keiland Williams last year against Tennessee? Beastly. We're also forgetting about him.

Suddenly, we have 4 VERY solid RBs. It's a great situation to be in. Our WRs also look good and of course TE is the best tandem in the NFL. If the O-line gets fixed, it won't really matter who plays QB, he'll be surrounded by a ton of playmakers.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804727]Got tired of waiting for GTripp to start this thread. We usually do this after free agency and the draft, but whatever let's assume trades/free agency will happen at some point in the next couple of months. And let's ignore the latest rumor that the NFL may expand rosters due to the prolonged lockout[/quote]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth

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[quote=GTripp0012;804845]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth[/quote]




You gutted the team! :Flush:


What happened to Torain?

If Kelly is our #2, we're doomed.

2 undrafted rookie QBs?

No replacement for Rogers at CB?

Nice O-line.




Man, I knew you were a Redskins pessimist but this is ridiculous. I do like that you replaced Rabach and Sundberg at least.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804823]Son of Man - I like your inclusion of Darrel Young at FB...really think Sellers will be gone?[/quote]

I think the team will be going toward a youth movement. Thus, I see Sellers being moved out.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804826]I see how it is. Liked his inclusion, but not mine.

And why are so many people saying Kasey Studdard? For the record, I'm totally speculating on him joining us[/quote]

That is because I used your roster as a template then added my :twocents:

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[quote=Son Of Man;804856]That is because I used your roster as a template then added my :twocents:[/quote]

I did the same thing.

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[quote=Monkeydad;804847]You gutted the team! :Flush:


What happened to Torain?

If Kelly is our #2, we're doomed.

2 undrafted rookie QBs?

No replacement for Rogers at CB?

Nice O-line.




Man, I knew you were a Redskins pessimist but this is ridiculous. I do like that you replaced Rabach and Sundberg at least.[/quote]I don't think you can gut a team that won ten games in two seasons. I think the phrase you're looking for is getting rid of some bad contracts without adding new bad contracts. Which is the obvious focus in 2011. Assuming the Redskins are actually on the right track.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Redskins try Ryan Torain at Fullback this year. It's something that Shanahan did with Mike Anderson, a player who he really liked, rather than release him. In this scenario, I have them not getting rid of Mike Sellers because he's still really valuable on special teams. But that's really all Sellers does these days so Torain --> Sellers is pretty defensible.

Anyway, that OL I have up there isn't exactly reaching for the stars in 2011, but who would you acquire that would improve on that situation, and what would you give up to get them?

Remember, there is a cost -- potentially a significant one -- in trying to be less bad in 2011.

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53 James Thrashes

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I hope Hankeron turns into a Sidney Rice type and Aldrick Robinson a Stevie Johnson type

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[quote=GTripp0012;804845]Dude. We're in a lockout. I'm simply moving at the speed of our legal system. What's a week between friends?

Because of Smootsmack's impatience, I am doing the roster that I would build in May, not my predictions for what will happen. Those predictions will come as soon as I know the free agency rules. For right now, assumption is: 2010 rules to player movement.

[B]Quarterbacks (3)[/B]: [U]Rex Grossman[/U], Scott Tolzien (R), Pat Devlin (R)

[B]Runningbacks (5)[/B]: [U]Roy Helu Jr. (R)[/U], Keiland Williams, Evan Royster (R), Henry Hynoski (R), Mike Sellers

[B]Wide Receivers (6)[/B]: [U]Anthony Armstrong[/U], [U]Malcolm Kelly[/U], Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Terence Austin, Aldrick Robinson

I do think Niles Paul is a better prospect than Austin, but Paul's best chance of making the roster is Kelly getting hurt again and being released.

[B]Tight Ends (3)[/B]: [U]Chris Cooley[/U], [U]Fred Davis[/U], Logan Paulsen

[B]Offensive Linemen (8)[/B]: [U]Trent Williams[/U], [U]Kory Lichtensteiger[/U], [U]Will Montgomery[/U], [U]Erik Cook[/U], [U]Jammal Brown[/U], Stephon Heyer, Clint Oldenburg, Mike Williams

[B]Defensive Linemen (8*)[/B]: [U]Anthony Bryant[/U], [U]Adam Carriker[/U], [U]Vonnie Holliday[/U], Jarvis Jenkins (R), Albert Haynesworth, Ma'ake Kemoeatu, Ian Williams (R), Darrion Scott*

*I have Albert Haynesworth on the opening day roster. I think he's traded by Week 4. My player totals equal 54, but D. Scott is going to be a post-Haynesworth pickup.

[B]Linebackers (9)[/B]: [U]London Fletcher[/U], [U]Chris Wilson[/U], [U]Brian Orakpo[/U], [U]Lorenzo Alexander[/U], HB Blades, Ryan Kerrigan, Perry Riley, Rob Jackson, Markus White

[B]Defensive Backs (9)[/B]: [U]DeAngelo Hall[/U], [U]Kevin Barnes[/U], [U]LaRon Landry[/U], [U]OJ Atogwe[/U], Phillip Buchanon, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes, Chris L. Rucker (R), Brandyn Thompson (R)

[B]Specialists (2)[/B]: Graham Gano, Josh Bidwell

[B]Long Snapper (1)[/B]: James Dearth[/quote]I have one adjustment to make to the roster I previously predicted: I think the Redskins sign Shaun Rogers and release Ma'ake Kemoeatu.

I now think this because I looked at QB Hit numbers from 2010, and no interior DT hit the QB more times than Shaun Rogers. That includes 4-3 tackles. Rogers didn't always get the sack, but the Redskins need a nose tackle who can put the quarterback on the ground, and Rogers can do that.