Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles
 

[quote=12thMan;824435]I think those two things are related at the end of the day.[/quote]

Not from the perspective of the Bengals or the Bills, they're not at all.

Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles
 

What I found interesting is that the Bengals wanted him while they still had Carson Palmer starting.

Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles
 

[quote=skinsfan69;824439]What I found interesting is that the Bengals wanted him while they still had Carson Palmer starting.[/quote]

Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. Because to hear Vick tell it they told him he'd start in Cincy

Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles
 

[quote=irish;824423]I dont have a problem with what RG did, although its impossible to tell from this article what he said. He was looking out for the league by helping a high profile player get himself into a good situation that will make both the player and league look good. That's what I call a win-win.

[B]Cincy would have been a disaster for MV as Cincy has the worst head coach at any level of football.[/B] That wasnt what MV or the league needed or wanted.[/quote]

Just curious - - because I don't know:

Is Jerry Faust still coaching?

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;824457]Just curious - - because I don't know:

Is Jerry Faust still coaching?[/quote]

LOL, I dont think he is. IMO Marvin Lewis makes him look like Knute Rockne. Lewis was a good D coordinator but a disaster as HC.

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It appears Faust is now a motivational speaker (according to Wiki). I didnt know people needed to be motivated on how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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[quote=Schneed10;824430]To me, maintaining the integrity of the league takes priority over making the business decision to help Vick minimize the risk (to both Vick and the NFL itself) of a relapse.[/quote]

Then don't reinstate him. It comes down to money and they know MV sells tickets and Godell over stepped here for money.

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[quote=irish;824465]LOL, I dont think he is. IMO Marvin Lewis makes him look like Knute Rockne. Lewis was a good D coordinator but a disaster as HC.[/quote]

I'm not sure he's a disaster, he's just in Cinn. He would've fared much better had he gotten a better job. Lewis is in for a real long year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;824488]I'm not sure he's a disaster, he's just in Cinn. He would've fared much better had he gotten a better job. Lewis is in for a real long year.[/quote]

If you put Lewis as HC in Pitt or NE those teams will be cellar dwellers within 2 years. He has some nice talent in Cincy but has screwed it up.

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[quote=Schneed10;824361]I have a major problem with the commissioner of the league, or by extension the NFL league office, influencing or steering any player to take a particular course of action, especially a decision on where to play.

Where's the free market? You either reinstate Vick fully, allowing him to make his own decision like any other free agent, or you don't. I'd cry major foul if I were the Bills or the Bengals.[/quote]

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fespn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F6873181%2Fmichael-vick-says-philadelphia-eagles-were-not-first-choice&ei=X1hNTsPNCKjs0gHHvdSXBw&usg=AFQjCNFjGjATUe9w_lKGZC0kQWtbvu1Lsw&sig2=bo7Fi7muL4nU6ZmuivhvFw]Michael Vick says Philadelphia Eagles were not his first choice - ESPN[/url]

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CDcQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfoxphilly.com%2Fdpp%2Fsports%2Feagles%2FEagles_Vick_Goodell_Bengals_Bills_081811&ei=X1hNTsPNCKjs0gHHvdSXBw&usg=AFQjCNELTvFDPmcwyc56tBTL6RF-KPYzEQ&sig2=v3Ti5p3S6GmnAizS1ejP9A]NFL, Vick Deny He Was Steered To Eagles[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;824519][URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fespn.go.com%2Fnfl%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F6873181%2Fmichael-vick-says-philadelphia-eagles-were-not-first-choice&ei=X1hNTsPNCKjs0gHHvdSXBw&usg=AFQjCNFjGjATUe9w_lKGZC0kQWtbvu1Lsw&sig2=bo7Fi7muL4nU6ZmuivhvFw"]Michael Vick says Philadelphia Eagles were not his first choice - ESPN[/URL]

[URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CDcQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfoxphilly.com%2Fdpp%2Fsports%2Feagles%2FEagles_Vick_Goodell_Bengals_Bills_081811&ei=X1hNTsPNCKjs0gHHvdSXBw&usg=AFQjCNELTvFDPmcwyc56tBTL6RF-KPYzEQ&sig2=v3Ti5p3S6GmnAizS1ejP9A"]NFL, Vick Deny He Was Steered To Eagles[/URL][/quote]

So now we have a he said she said. Maybe GQ is twisting words to sell magazines, who knows.

Whatever. All I know is I hate the Eagles.

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[quote=Schneed10;824539]So now we have a he said she said. Maybe GQ is twisting words to sell magazines, who knows.

Whatever. All I know is I hate the Eagles.[/quote]

I suspect this is a backtrack by both sides even though I dont think any back track is needed. Vick just isnt bright enough to know that some things might be best left unsaid.

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If you read the interview it makes you realize what a POS Vick still is in some regards -- he basically hand waves the whole killing dogs thing as a part of black culture and growing up poor or whatnot. I am not black but I have a tough time believing that drowning, fighting, and electrocuting dogs is part of any culture, black or otherwise

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[quote=irish;824552]I suspect this is a backtrack by both sides even though I dont think any back track is needed. Vick just isnt bright enough to know that some things might be best left unsaid.[/quote]

Still trying to figure out why he felt it necessary to go there.

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[quote=Longtimefan;824577]Still trying to figure out why he felt it necessary to go there.[/quote]

Because he's an idiot who doesnt know any better.