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firstdown 10-06-2011 10:58 AM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=FRPLG;845216]Talk about a missed opportunity.[/quote]

Really, she was telling me she interviewed with them in his garage and that she decided not to take the job because she did not think they would be in business very long. She did not even know what a computer was when she interviewed for them in 1976.

mredskins 10-06-2011 12:29 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
Micheal Oher just a really bright guy and he complained they made him look simple in Blindside.

[url=http://deadspin.com/5847164/michael-oher-would-appreciate-it-if-youd-tell-him-who-this-steve-jobs-guy-was]Michael Oher Would Appreciate It If You'd Tell Him Who This Steve Jobs Guy Was[/url]

MTK 10-06-2011 12:39 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
Talk about clueless jeez, hopefully he was just kidding... as he posts from his iPhone

saden1 10-06-2011 01:55 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
RIP. Definitely too young to go but when it's your time it's your time. He had a nice run and it was a miracle he survived pancreatic cancer for 7 years. Most people don't last more than a few months.

As far as his accomplishments in the context of hardware/software innovations he will only be remembered by Apple fans and investors. If for nothing else history will remember him for giving us Pixar and being a great business man.

saden1 10-06-2011 02:02 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=12thMan;845132]The Thomas Edison of our generation. RIP[/quote]

Really? What a ludicrous statement.

MTK 10-06-2011 02:18 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[url=http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2011/08/steve-jobs-thomas-edison/41735/]Steve Jobs Is Thomas Edison - Business - The Atlantic Wire[/url]

Dirtbag59 10-06-2011 02:58 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=mredskins;845243]Micheal Oher just a really bright guy and he complained they made him look simple in Blindside.

[url=http://deadspin.com/5847164/michael-oher-would-appreciate-it-if-youd-tell-him-who-this-steve-jobs-guy-was]Michael Oher Would Appreciate It If You'd Tell Him Who This Steve Jobs Guy Was[/url][/quote]

He was blindsided by his death.

saden1 10-07-2011 04:38 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=Mattyk;845264][URL="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2011/08/steve-jobs-thomas-edison/41735/"]Steve Jobs Is Thomas Edison - Business - The Atlantic Wire[/URL][/quote]

What are we comparing here? Management style or their impact on the world for centuries to come? Seriously, how do we compare the iMac, iPhone, and iPad which all pretty much takes on already existing products to practical light bulb and fluoroscopy outside the lab, the electric grid, invention of the phonograph and kinetograph, and the advent of full duplex two-way telegraph?


I'm not sold in this comparison...in the context of history the best Jobs can hope to be is Francis Crow.

12thMan 10-07-2011 04:54 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
Interesting the Atlantic Wire thought so too. I thought I was was off, guess not.

saden1 10-07-2011 08:45 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=12thMan;845517]Interesting [B]the Atlantic Wire thought so too[/B]. I thought I was was off, guess not.[/quote]

They did? I'm guessing you're still off.

People say the darndest things.

12thMan 10-07-2011 09:01 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=saden1;845547]They did? I'm guessing you're still off.

People say the darndest things.[/quote]

I'm sure they said the darndest things when Edison died too.

saden1 10-07-2011 09:27 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=12thMan;845548]I'm sure they said the darndest things when Edison died too.[/quote]


They did except for Tesla:

[quote]He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene. [...] His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90% of the labour. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense.

—Nikola Tesla
[/quote]

12thMan 10-07-2011 09:36 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
I think the definitive biography about Steve Jobs is probably some 10-20 years away. No one is suggesting that Jobs was/is greater than Thomas Edison, just the Edison of our generation. Others have said Henry Ford. That said, it's still a worthy comparison and one intelligent people will discuss long after we're gone.

I would also argue that Jobs wasn't just a brilliant innovator, but an extremely savvy businessman who pioneered a device that was the first of it's kind. He successfully brought it to the marketplace and introduced it to every corner of the globe.

saden1 10-07-2011 10:26 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
[quote=12thMan;845550]I think the definitive biography about Steve Jobs is probably some 10-20 years away. [B]No one is suggesting that Jobs was/is greater than Thomas Edison, just the Edison of our generation[/B]. Others have said Henry Ford. That said, it's still a worthy comparison and one intelligent people will discuss long after we're gone.

I would also argue that Jobs wasn't just a brilliant innovator, but an extremely savvy businessman [B]who pioneered a device that was the first of it's kind.[/B] He successfully brought it to the marketplace and introduced it to every corner of the globe.[/quote]

What the hell does that even mean? In order to be the Edison of our generation your accomplishments have to be extraordinary like that of Edison.

What was first of its kind? The iPhone? The iPad? The Apple II? The Motorola Razr was innovative and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones"]sold a ton[/URL] of devices but I don't think anyone really cares who was in charge of its development.

My fidelity lies with history....People need to stop lowering the bar for Jobs and realize his accomplishments aren't on par with that of Ford and Edison. I mean, Jobs has sweatshops while Henry developed the assembly line and paid his employees liveable wages and afforded them medical care.

cpayne5 10-08-2011 03:20 PM

Re: RIP Steve Jobs
 
I agree with saden.

The problem I have with the Jobs/Edison comparison is that while Edison invented things, Jobs took what already existed, made it look cool by painting it white, and then sold a ton of them.

Everyone wants to say that the iPod was a great invention. It wasn't an invention. It was a well marketed digital media player (not the first!) whose timing was right.

If he is the closest we have to Edison for our generation, then our generation has failed miserably, IMO.

Jobs definitely deserves a lot of credit for all that he accomplished, but he is no Edison. Not even close.


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