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skinsfaninok 02-07-2012 10:53 PM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/theismann-redskins-signing-manning-would-be-horrific-idea/]Theismann: Redskins signing Manning would be “horrific idea” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Lotus 02-07-2012 10:59 PM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883207][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/theismann-redskins-signing-manning-would-be-horrific-idea/]Theismann: Redskins signing Manning would be “horrific idea” | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Theismann's argument is flawed because it is not an either/or. You can sign PM and draft his protege at the same time, making us set at QB for years to come.

skinsfaninok 02-07-2012 11:14 PM

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[quote=Lotus;883209]Theismann's argument is flawed because it is not an either/or. You can sign PM and draft his protege at the same time, making us set at QB for years to come.[/quote]


I agree, I think bring in Manning for a 2 year contract or 3 and draft a Rookie this year or next. He's better at 80% than most rookies would be anyway

CrazyCanuck 02-07-2012 11:30 PM

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[quote=Lotus;883199]You can sign him to a long-term deal and then axe him if/when he fails another drug test.[/quote]

Not before he takes your $10M+ signing bonus... unless there is a clause for that.

SFREDSKIN 02-08-2012 12:15 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;883207][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/07/theismann-redskins-signing-manning-would-be-horrific-idea/]Theismann: Redskins signing Manning would be “horrific idea” | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I couldn't agree more with JoeyT, haven't we learned from signing Haynesworth and Hall? Character is not an issue here, but age and health are. Why mortgage the future by paying a big sum of money, instead of doing the right thing by finding someone else. Hopefully common sense prevails and they pass on him or someone else takes a chance on him.

NC_Skins 02-08-2012 12:36 AM

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[quote=Lotus;883199]You can sign him to a long-term deal and then axe him if/when he fails another drug test.[/quote]


Chances are the contract is going to have a signing bonus which we will not be able to recoup if he fails another drug tests. That's money lost and money that counts against our cap. I haven't seen a contract yet that makes players give back signing bonus money for being suspended/jailed/etc. The only case I've seen signing bonus money returned is when players retire. You probably won't see one either because I'm sure the NFLPA won't allow it.


Not even sure why you would think it's a good idea to reward bad behavior.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;883221]I couldn't agree more with JoeyT, haven't we learned from signing Haynesworth and Hall? Character is not an issue here, but age and health are. Why mortgage the future by paying a big sum of money, instead of doing the right thing by finding someone else. Hopefully common sense prevails and they pass on him or someone else takes a chance on him.[/QUOTE]

Why can't we sign PM and also draft a qb?

diehard 02-08-2012 12:51 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
I was hoping this would become the "Around the NFL - Offseason Thread (not including more Peyton Manning talk). I was wrong.

CultBrennan59 02-08-2012 12:54 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;883223]Why can't we sign PM and also draft a qb?[/quote]

We could, but;
1. Does Peyton [U]really[/U] want to come here?
2. Is he going to be throwing back the way he used be able to throw or will his arm strength of decreased significantly from not playing/neck surgery?
3. Does Peyton fit our system of bootlegs and roll outs?
4. Will Peyton get along with both shanahans?
5. Do we want to tie so much money into the QB situation, should we really draft RG3 by trading with St. Louis?
6. How much upgrading do we need on our OL and WR's?
7. Do we change our whole offense now, for one player?
8. Do we ever learn that signing big name FA QB's doesn't work? Theres always a "Yeah, But..." with all these Big name FA signings and us.

diehard 02-08-2012 01:07 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;883193]Franchise tag on Davis is a defensible move, but I don't think it's the right one. Assuming they believe in him as the long term TE (and perhaps they don't), there's not enough TE demand amongst teams for him to skip town with the first offer he gets. 5/$27 gets it done and I don't think he's going to be worth less at this time next year. He'll just be a year older.[/quote]

I agree.

skinsfaninok 02-08-2012 01:51 AM

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;883225]We could, but;
1. Does Peyton [U]really[/U] want to come here?
2. Is he going to be throwing back the way he used be able to throw or will his arm strength of decreased significantly from not playing/neck surgery?
3. Does Peyton fit our system of bootlegs and roll outs?
4. Will Peyton get along with both shanahans?
5. Do we want to tie so much money into the QB situation, should we really draft RG3 by trading with St. Louis?
6. How much upgrading do we need on our OL and WR's?
7. Do we change our whole offense now, for one player?
8. Do we ever learn that signing big name FA QB's doesn't work? Theres always a "Yeah, But..." with all these Big name FA signings and us.[/QUOTE]

I agree with the FA signings but PM is no d mcnabb, he's a top 5 QB of all time and when healthy he can lead any team far.

GMScud 02-08-2012 02:01 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=diehard;883224]I was hoping this would become the "Around the NFL - Offseason Thread (not including more Peyton Manning talk). I was wrong.[/quote]

Me too. So much for that.:(

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-08-2012 03:16 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;883200]You figure with a personalized license plate that reads "sauced" the last thing you want to do is drink and drive, just ask Knowshon Moreno.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/knowshon-moreno-charged-dui-while-license-plate-reads-193939702.html]Knowshon Moreno charged with DUI; has a license plate that reads ‘SAUCED’ | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

You can't just go around stealing ESPN's jokes. They will come after you.

SOUL-SKINS 02-08-2012 03:22 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=GMScud;883237]Me too. So much for that.:([/quote]

Yea ..... Me three .....

Lotus 02-08-2012 08:07 AM

Re: Around the NFL - Offseason thread
 
[quote=CrazyCanuck;883213]Not before he takes your $10M+ signing bonus... unless there is a clause for that.[/quote]

Well, yeah, you might lose the bonus money. However, wasn't there a case showing that bonus money can be reclaimed if the player violates NFL rules?


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