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The Goat 04-09-2012 05:12 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=Monksdown;907544]No, ceiling for pocket passers is higher than run first quarterbacks.[/quote]

This. I don't want Griffin to think run unless the pocket collapses. Something along the lines of Steve Young or Steve McNair. I think that's what we'll see...

NYCskinfan82 04-09-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
IMO RG3 is very intelligent he will probably pick-up most of our Offense fearly quickly, but the thing that will get him is the differenet defensive coverages he will see, that's whats going to take him more time to adapt to atleast a year or 2.

30gut 04-09-2012 06:13 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=SmootSmack;907495]Assuming we draft Griffin, how will it impact our offense this upcoming season, scheme and personnel wise[/quote]

Its gonna be interesting.
On one hand you have Kyle pass 1st playcalling which results in about 60/40 pass run split.
Griffin's physical talents as a passer would actually support/justify Kyle's pass 1st playcalling.
If the offense stays exactly the same we could see better execution and more explosive plays.

Griffin's running ability is the flip side to the coin.
Griff poses a huge threat the backside contain (DE/OLB) which will slow or prevent the backside pursuit which should make it easier to run the ball.
No team is gonna want to get caught with their backside contain crashing down only to see Griffin keep the ball on a bootleg because something like this could be the result:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voXDOEJcz8g[/ame]

With the defense forced to play Griff honest it will make it easier to run the ball.
If its easier to run the ball then Kyle might call more run plays which would bring balance to the playcalling and make the play action/boot action passing game much more effective.

But then again, Kyle could emerse himseld in Art Briles offense and emerge with an offense that favors the formations and concepts from Baylor's offense.
And the result could be something like the Bills, Lions, Packers and Panthers all shotgun spread all the time.

skinsfaninok 04-09-2012 06:18 PM

Guys cam is NOT a run first QB, he's pass first

los panda 04-09-2012 07:08 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
say what you will, but griffin makes the redskins immediate contenders on madden 13

MTK 04-09-2012 07:33 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=los panda;907661]say what you will, but griffin makes the redskins immediate contenders on madden 13[/quote]

The Skins are going to be an online favorite for sure

Bubba305-ST21- 04-09-2012 07:35 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;907666]The Skins are going to be an online favorite for sure[/quote]

yea that makes me made in a way bc i have playing with them since i can remember and now people are going to be using them all the time. i guess that means we are headed in the right direction

los panda 04-09-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;907668]yea that makes me made in a way bc i have playing with them since i can remember and now people are going to be using them all the time. i guess that means we are headed in the right direction[/quote]it just means a fast qb

NC_Skins 04-09-2012 07:53 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;907653]Guys cam is NOT a run first QB, he's pass first[/quote]

Not even sure where you get this idea from. In many games, he has just as many rushes as DeAngelo Williams did.

MTK 04-09-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
He also threw for 4000 yards, let's just call him a dual threat.

NC_Skins 04-09-2012 08:17 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=Mattyk;907675]He also threw for 4000 yards, let's just call him a dual threat.[/quote]

He threw for 4,000 yards because his team was constantly down by many points which forced them to throw the ball the whole time.

30gut 04-09-2012 08:30 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=NC_Skins;907677]He threw for 4,000 yards because his team was constantly down by many points which forced them to throw the ball the whole time.[/quote]Couldn't you make this same argument for every QB in the NFL? Its a spurious attempt to deny Cam credit.
[quote=NC_Skins;907673]Not even sure where you get this idea from. In many games, he has just as many rushes as DeAngelo Williams did.[/quote]
It reads like you are drinking a tall glass of hateraide.
Why not give credit when its due?

A high number of rushing attempts doesn't mean that Cam is run first QB.
It means that his team wisely calls more designed runs then most teams, especially in the redzone and can you blame them?
I watched quite a few Panthers games and Cam is reluctant to leave the pocket by choice but when he does leave he just so happens to be a dynamic runner.

Lets put Cam's production in perspective:
Cam Newton= 35 TDs passing/rushinh
Redskins (as a team)= 27

MTK 04-09-2012 08:42 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
[quote=NC_Skins;907677]He threw for 4,000 yards because his team was constantly down by many points which forced them to throw the ball the whole time.[/quote]

I know you still have egg on your face from predicting Cam would be a bust but c'mon, the kid broke Peyton Manning's rookie passing record for crying out loud. Give credit where it's due. Nobody likes a hatter.

los panda 04-09-2012 08:43 PM

Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense
 
i certainly can't groove w a mad hatter

Hog1 04-09-2012 08:48 PM

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I must say in all reason......it does explain why that bum, Marino pitched it for like 80k.....right?


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