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If only there were more posts on this board like this and less of the "Fire ____" posts and threads.

Re: Getting to Know the Front Office/Understanding the Scouting Process
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;959343]If only there were more posts on this board like this and less of the "Fire ____" posts and threads.[/quote]

This is a great thread, but can I ask how does it work if they decide to fire a coach/assistant coach? Does Shanahan or Allen have any type of structured evaluation process of college coaches and assistant coaches in the league, sort of like you have described for the players, or is it more of a job interview and review of available tapes?

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You mean like when they let Keenan McArdell go how did they select Ike Hilliard?

I think it's just like a regular job interview. Except in most job interviews you're probably not asked to draw up certain plays or explain how you plan to use Niles Paul. Connections (who you know) go a long way toward selecting the assistant coaches.

And of course the whole scouting process can ultimately be thrown out the window if Shanahan (or any football head) simply says "this is the guy I want. make it happen" Most, like Shanahan, are respectful of the process. Others, not so much

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[quote=SmootSmack;959538]You mean like when they let Keenan McArdell go how did they select Ike Hilliard?

I think it's just like a regular job interview. Except in most job interviews you're probably not asked to draw up certain plays or explain how you plan to use Niles Paul. Connections (who you know) go a long way toward selecting the assistant coaches.

And of course the whole scouting process can ultimately be thrown out the window if Shanahan (or any football head) simply says [B]"this is the guy I want. make it happen"[/B] Most, like Shanahan, are respectful of the process. Others, not so much[/quote]i wonder what the saints staff thought about the events leading up to the 1999 draft.

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SS, thank you so much! This is a terrifically educational thread.

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Thanks for the thread SS. Its great to see the organization run like a real NFL team as opposed to how the last adminastration ran it. :)

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This is "on paper" how the previous administrations ran it. But Vinny wasn't really one to consider other opinions so the whole process was thrown out the window often. Or sometimes Snyder.

Like Snyder wanted Joey Harrington back in 2002. Big time. And he wanted Rock Cartwright. Rock was easy to get of course. Harrington was tough, and thankfully impossible. But they tried to get him, though the scouts didn't necessarily have him ranked so high

Similarly back in 2008, Scott Campbell was insistent that the team not draft Malcolm Kelly but Cerrato wanted him so Kelly climbed to the top of the draft board.

But that sort of stuff happens all over the league. And in my walks of life.

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[quote=SmootSmack;959698]This is "on paper" how the previous administrations ran it. But Vinny wasn't really one to consider other opinions so the whole process was thrown out the window often. Or sometimes Snyder.

Like Snyder wanted Joey Harrington back in 2002. Big time. And he wanted Rock Cartwright. Rock was easy to get of course. Harrington was tough, and thankfully impossible. But they tried to get him, though the scouts didn't necessarily have him ranked so high

[B]Similarly back in 2008, Scott Campbell was insistent that the team not draft Malcolm Kelly but Cerrato wanted him so Kelly climbed to the top of the draft board.[/B]

But that sort of stuff happens all over the league. And in my walks of life.[/quote]

If only Scott Campbell was our GM in those years...

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I cannot put into words how happy I am that bugeyed douchebag is gone and Bruce Allen is here. That in itself I think brings more respect for this organlzation. It certainly does for me.

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How many scouts do we have total, and how many does the average club have? (Counting what a team shares with groups like BLESCO too.)

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Per my original post-2 Pro Scouts plus the Director, and 6 Area (or College) Scouts plus the Director

Around the NFL it varies

Steelers: 2 Pro, 6 Area

I think the Eagles have 10-12 plus Directors and Assistant Directors

The Bengals have 3 total (and I think a consultant)

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[quote=SmootSmack;960215]Per my original post-2 Pro Scouts plus the Director, and 6 Area (or College) Scouts plus the Director

Around the NFL it varies

Steelers: 2 Pro, 6 Area

I think the Eagles have 10-12 plus Directors and Assistant Directors

The Bengals have 3 total (and I think a consultant)[/quote]Thanks. Great info and great thread, thank you.

Surprised everybody doesn't have more, like the Eagles. It's a multi-billion dollar business, investing more in scouting seems a cheap way to improve your team.

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speaking of scouts I heard that the redskins scouts were noticeably at the USC Oregon game the other night.

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59 speaking of scouts I heard that the redskins scouts were noticeably at the USC Oregon game the other night.[/QUOTE]

Do you know if they were looking at anyone in particular?

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[quote=SirLK26;994996]Do you know if they were looking at anyone in particular?[/quote]

Holy 3 months ago Batman!

I don't remember. Probably McDonald, Holmes, Robey, Woods on USC. Oregon probably Long, Alonso, and Barner.