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Hail to the SteelSkins 12-18-2012 10:54 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
Revis and a 2 might be worth it.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-18-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
[quote=Chico23231;977425]:laughing2



BHA he's rushed for 750 yards and been very effective. The option and his scramble ability has helped us win games. He is gonna take hits in the open field, its a fact. We need a developing QB who can be ready to take the field and deliever.[/quote]

We run the option alot, but most of the time RGIII drops back to throw or hands off to Morris. Its rare that RGIII actually [I]runs from the option[/I] as a designed play.

Generally, he drops back to throw and runs because protection breaks down before a receiver gets open. As i said, he takes hits in the open field instead of taking sacks, which is what would happen with someone like rex behind center. but he'd be taking the same number of big hits.

RGIIIs "style of play" is [U]not[/U] more likely to get him injured than if he were a pure drop back passer. That was my point. Its the o-line thats responsible for RGIII taking hits. If they did their job well, RGIII wouldnt have to run and he could stay back and throw. He'd have something like 500 less running yards and 750-1000 more passing yards.

Regardless, until we can fix the o-line, we need Kirk Cousins. He's under contract 2 more years and i'd be shocked if he left before then unless we got a ridiculous offer.

firstdown 12-18-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
So his value skyrockets because a guy with 19 post who actually looks to be a Giants fan mentioned him in a thread?

Hail to the SteelSkins 12-18-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
There are plenty of O-Linemen in the draft, I would be willing to see cousins go for the right trade, and it's more so because i believe he is a starter not a backup.

Chico23231 12-18-2012 11:04 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
[quote=firstdown;977432]So his value skyrockets because a guy with 19 post who actually looks to be a Giants fan mentioned him in a thread?[/quote]

it was a refreshingly active topic apparently

skinsguy 12-18-2012 11:05 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
I can't believe that Redskins fans are ready to shop Kirk Cousins after one game! The Redskins NEED Captain Kirk. You're NOT going to get 2nd round or 1st round picks, and the Jets won't give up Revis for him, lol!! Please come back down to reality.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-18-2012 11:06 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
[quote=Hail to the SteelSkins;977433]There are plenty of O-Linemen in the draft, I would be willing to see cousins go for the right trade, and it's more so because i believe he is a starter not a backup.[/quote]


So you want us to trade Cousins because he "deserves" to start somewhere? No thanks.

The fact that he's a "starter" is all the more reason to keep him. Having starting caliber players in a backup role is what every team wants at every position. Its called "depth." I understand its probably a foreign concept to most people, since we havent had it here at any position in a long long time.

REDSKINS4ever 12-18-2012 11:10 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
No, it's much too soon. I say we keep Cousins for another season. By 2015, he may be worth a ton.

CultBrennan59 12-18-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
I think we'll start shopping Kirk after year 2. After year 2, he will have a higher value (more games he'll play by then) and by then we'll definitely have more offers and value for him. Revis for Cousins in a year isn't absurd at all. Especially if Kevin Frickin' Kolb got 2 2nd's and a pro bowl CB.

RedskinRat 12-18-2012 11:12 AM

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Keep Cousins. No further discussion needed.

skinsfan69 12-18-2012 11:13 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
Cousins isn't going anywhere unless someone overpays in value. If someone is willing to give up a starter and a high draft pick (like Arizona did for Kevin Kolb) then the front office has to listen. There are teams that are desperate for a QB. Not only the Jets but Jacksonville, Arizona, Minnesota and KC to name a few. But I just don't see anyone doing that off of a good pre season, one start and a few more plays.

SmootSmack 12-18-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
[quote=skinsfan69;977442]Cousins isn't going anywhere unless someone overpays in value. If someone is willing to give up a starter and a high draft pick (like Arizona did for Kevin Kolb) then the front office has to listen. There are teams that are desperate for a QB. Not only the Jets but Jacksonville, Arizona, Minnesota and KC to name a few. But I just don't see anyone doing that off of a good pre season, one start and a few more plays.[/quote]

Well, that's probably the best time to trade him. Look at guys like Kolb, Flynn, Whitehurst that get moved on potential, not actual production (and I realize Flynn wasn't a trade)

That Guy 12-18-2012 11:30 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
we can't afford the revis/sanchez contracts, and why would we even want him here? rex gives us the same thing for less.

not opposed to a trade, but having a good backup QB isn't a horrible thing either, so unless it's really good, we shouldn't try to forcing something.

Alvin Walton 12-18-2012 11:32 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
OMG! One of those Jets nimrods wants Norv Turner.

skinsfan69 12-18-2012 11:34 AM

Re: Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;977444]Well, that's probably the best time to trade him. Look at guys like Kolb, Flynn, Whitehurst that get moved on potential, not actual production (and I realize Flynn wasn't a trade)[/quote]

Don't forget Scott Mitchell!!!!


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