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Balmerskinsfan 04-12-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
By the way, does anyone rember a division that was as filled with washed up old piece of shit QBs as the NFC east was last year?
Dallas- Testes Verde
NYG- Thumbs Warner
Skins- Fart Brunell

diehardskin2982 04-12-2005 01:59 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
I don't know what to think:
The players say one thing, and the staff is saying another thing.
The tension must be thick at redskin park. I would love to see the real story.
Arrington is unsuccessfully trying to use the media to get what he wants and thats stupid.
We'll see when the season starts what will happen.

rickmmrr 04-12-2005 02:19 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
Just the fact we have the same coaching staff for two years in a row is a big plus.

Daseal 04-12-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
[quote]Just the fact we have the same coaching staff for two years in a row is a big plus.[/quote]
Amen.

dirtbag2112 04-12-2005 02:41 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
Let's all drink the red Kool-aid

Daseal 04-12-2005 02:48 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
You mean you haven't had any yet?

BigSKINBauer 04-12-2005 02:51 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]

Prediction:
15th ranked offense in the league
5th ranked defense in the league including a +10 (or more) turnover ratio
10-6, wildcard playoff berth[/QUOTE]

i can live with that!

sportscurmudgeon 04-12-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
FRPLG:

If you want to console yourself by blaming the media for this, you can do that; but realistically, the Washington media - as it pertains to the Redskins - are pussycats. The media in NYC and Philly - just to name two other nearby outlets are monsters next to the sycophants here in DC. Don't confuse the political reporters here with the sports guys; they aren't nearly the same.

Danny Boy is one of several owners in the NFL who are always under scrutiny and take a large measure of criticism. But if you think Danny Boy is any more a "marked man" that Al Davis or Jerry Jones or Red McCombs - just to name three others - you're feeling a bit too sorry for yourself. All of these owners who seem to be "sh*t magnets" bring that on themselves with their behaviors so none of them really has a lot of complaining room. Danny Boy fits right in with that cadre of NFL owners.

Here is what bothers me the most about this story.

It is understandable that LaVar Arrington is frustrated by his injury and its failure to heal completely and quickly. Every injury he ever had before this one behaved that way. So, this one is not doing what all the other ones did and that is frustrating. No problem there.

It is understandable that he will try to find an explanation for the fact that this injury is acting differently. In addition to the knee itself, who or what else is there to blame? The surgeon? The training staff? The coaches who work with him? His teammates? Opposing players? The practice facilities where he reinjured the knee? The intergalactic visitors from the Xygork Nebula? There aren't many places for him to vent his frustration and he picked the coaches/trainers/organization as the target for the venting.

OK, I can live with that but then he went just a bit further and brought up "the grievance" and the fact that the date for the hearing was put off at the team's request and they have not rescheduled a date. THAT is what bothers me.

There is a difference between saying that he is frustrated with the coaches and/or the trainers and he is now going to focus only on getting his knee better on one hand and saying that the organization is "against him" and that they are manipulating his grievance procedures and that proves his point.

THAT aspect of this disagreement is far more disruptive and debilitating than any disagreement he might have with Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams or Bubba Tyrer because winning a few games will cure all of that. But that six million dollar dispute is obviously still a big deal with him and that is not going away any time soon - - since no hearing date has yet been scheduled.

Now that is disturbing...

skinsguy 04-12-2005 04:04 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
Things are going to be okay. Think about it, how many "big name" stars have gotten us to the playoffs or the SB in the past few years? As long as the money is more important than the team, players are going to come and go. Players might be more willing to stay once we start winning and they see that patience and a methodical approach win out over impatient big name signings. Look back at the '99 season - our only playoff season since Gibbs' first tenure. That team wasn't packed full of pro bowl stars, but mostly a bunch of young guys who brought their lunch pails with them to work. This offseason shows that we're finally becoming more responsible with our spending. It doesn't mean that we are sitting great with the cap, but we're trying to pay the guys a reasonable salary who want to stay here and letting the other guys go that would rather be considered the highest paid player at that position rather than a Super Bowl champion.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-12-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
I feel like this is definitely a "gets worse before it gets better situation" and I think it really is getting better. We're finding out a lot of important character things this offseason and hopefully winning will change some attitudes going into next.

Beemnseven 04-12-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
[QUOTE=Balmerskinsfan]By the way, does anyone rember a division that was as filled with washed up old piece of shit QBs as the NFC east was last year?
Dallas- Testes Verde
NYG- Thumbs Warner
Skins- Fart Brunell[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I remember them. Thumbs Warner ripped us to shreads in the first Giant game, and Testeverde (like every other Dallas player when they line up against Washington) played like a Super Bowl MVP.

Schneed10 04-12-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
Yes I think that's the key. As soon as the team starts winning I'll bet Arrington's attitude about the team will change in the blink of an eye.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-12-2005 04:13 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven]Yeah, I remember them. Thumbs Warner ripped us to shreads in the first Giant game, and Testeverde (like every other Dallas player when they line up against Washington) played like a Super Bowl MVP.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that pissed me off so bad. I mean Warner played like he was on his Super Bowl team and Testeverde's ancient ass lit us up with COMPLETELY mediocre receivers.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 04-12-2005 04:29 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
[QUOTE]

#1 overall reason for optimism: Ramsey is the starting QB, not Brunell. The offense under Ramsey during the last 7 games moved the ball effectively, with a 80+ QB rating compared to Brunell's dismal 63. In the last 5 games, the Skins were 3-2, including a very competitive game against the Eagles. Quality teaching and gameplanning are the keys in the NFL, not personnel acquisition. And finally, finally, we have good coaches in place for more than one year at a time, ready to teach and lead the team to success.


[/QUOTE]

And our record under your hero Ramsey was and has been?????????

SmootSmack 04-12-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Man, things are looking bad right now.
 
At least this site never looked bad..until SKINZ_DOMIN8 registered


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