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Chico23231 08-25-2014 09:35 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1078940]I agree but there will be several instances where he's going to have to drop back, scan the field and beat the defense on 3rd and 8. I do think we all need to wait and see until week one before we hit the panic button. But what my eyes are telling me is that RG3 has a long way to go. Some of the things we saw Sat are the same things we saw last year.

Also the patience thing doesn't work for me. It's his 3rd year. Everything is in place for RG3 to go out and have a great year. If Nick Foles can have a great 2013 then why can't RG3??? Is Nick Foles better? I sure as hell hope not.

[B]One last thing too, it's time to let go of 2012. Different system, different coaches. RG3 doesn't want to run that offense. I don't blame him. But it's time for him to go out and prove that he can run the offense we need him to run[/B].[/quote]

So in one breath its no patience thing not working, but the other is let 2012 go different system, different coaches. As Redskins fans, its become easy for us to make that transition, but QB it takes time whether you like it or not.

My reference to 2012 says a couple things, one point is saying this isnt a Ryan Tannehill type of perspective we should be taking with RG3

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2014 09:36 AM

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Why I'm not gonna panic about our QB? Because I can't change it.

Also, because I do trust Gruden. After the first preseason game, and our run game was effective, how much more did we see? If he trusts that the [B][U]team[/U][/B] was effective at some parts of the offense, we didn't see it. That makes me believe he was using preseason exactly for what preseason is - getting coachable moments on tape.

MTK 08-25-2014 09:40 AM

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1078949]Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.



There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.



Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.[/QUOTE]


They gambled and lost big time on Bradford.

Chico23231 08-25-2014 09:49 AM

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Sucks for Bradford, but hey in our situation if something happens to RG3 at least we have a very serviceable back up.

scowan 08-25-2014 09:51 AM

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There are some decison making problems going on with RG3 right now that I don't like. This running for the sideline and going out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage WITH THE BALL is driving me crazy. When you get close, throw the ball at the down maker up to the line of scrimmage out of bounds please!!!! An incompletion is better than a sack.

Also, I still don't see him stepping into throws. He is kind of all arms and upper body. Does he still doubt his knee? Must think and make decsions faster. Also, we have seen no read option where RG3 has KEPT the football. I know its preseason, but we need to burn Clowney and Watt with this in week one. They will bite and go for Almo. I'm not sure the Skins line can handle them but a read option will slow them down.

Bucket 08-25-2014 09:56 AM

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[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gARRX67GUc[/ame]

That's why I'm not panicking. Shows everything needed to be successful in this league right now. I'm standing behind RG3 because I've seen him make the reads, and throws.

Kap for the 49ers hasn't lead the 49ers to a TD in the preseason either and has just as many turnovers as RG3. Yet, nobody wants to talk about it because they have Blaine Gabbert behind him who is also looking sharp.

It's an evaluation game. God coaches evaluate their talent and test their limits in meaningless game. There is no point in running the plays RG3 is comfortable running that work in a game that means nothing.

irish 08-25-2014 10:02 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1078942]People need to realize the difference between playing to win (regular season) and playing to evaluate (preseason).

Everything changes once the bullets are live. Game planning and play calling are completely different when the games count.

Does anyone really think Gruden is showing anything right now? Or that he's not going to put Griffin in calls that he's comfortable with and able to execute well once the games count?[/quote]

I agree that preseason is totally different and JG isnt showing anything now but why wouldnt he do things in preseason to also get RG3 comfortable and confident? There's gotta be a way that they can get RG3 gong in the right direction without giving away what they will be doing this year. JG has a couple of weeks to get it all worked out and time will tell.

Lotus 08-25-2014 10:06 AM

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Panicking before RGIII has even played a real game in the new offense is foolish.

No panic allowed until October at the earliest, and likely not even then.

MTK 08-25-2014 10:06 AM

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In order to improve you have to focus on your weaknesses. Doesn't make much sense to just focus on what you already do well.

MTK 08-25-2014 10:12 AM

Why I'm Not Gonna Panic About Our QB
 
Would everyone feel better if we had him hit a few quick screens, maybe some read option, and get some easy completions and have some pretty preseason numbers? In the end does that really help him vs working on getting through reads and working on improving?

over the mountain 08-25-2014 10:13 AM

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RG3 has strengths and weaknesses.

He needs to learn to see the field better, anticipate and make better decisions.

We win or lose with RG3.

I am a RG3 fan and believer. We will be a SB contender in the next 5 years if we build with him and no major injuries.

what im really writing for - im pretty sure it was the browns game where RG3 hit andre roberts for that long pass at the end of the 1st quarter. the camera showed rg3 running down the field anticipating getting into a huddle and looked back and realized everyone else was taking off their helmets and sauntering over to the sideline ... apparently everyone else was aware of the time on the clock except RG3 ... maybe he was excited about the long strike and forgot ... just odd. you have to know down distance and clock. every snap, every play.

irish 08-25-2014 10:28 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1078958]In order to improve you have to focus on your weaknesses. Doesn't make much sense to just focus on what you already do well.[/quote]

What is RG3 doing well right now? From what I have seen its not much but like I said, there's still time to get thing ironed out. I'd really like to see him play at least a quarter in the final preseason game because it seems like he needs the live action reps.

BTW, all this QB controversy is baloney. There is no QB controversy because the Skins didnt give up all those draft pick for RG3 to not play. RG3 is the QB until something catastrophic happens.

44Deezel 08-25-2014 10:30 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1078949]Interesting quote from King's MMQB today.

There is a saying on the whiteboard in Rams general manager Les Snead’s office. “Build to dominate using Redskin picks!” it reads. The Rams made the mega-trade with Washington in 2012 that allowed their NFC neighbor to draft Robert Griffin III. The Rams, meanwhile, thought they had their quarterback of the future, and didn’t draft one until the sixth round this year in SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. And now those picks are gone.

Right now neither of these teams are loving life after that trade. I rather be the Skins then the Rams right now.[/quote]

Too much was made of those picks. The Skins had a first round pick every year before that trade and what did it amount to? Eternal suckitude and missing the playoffs every year. All the Orakpos and Kerrigans in the world won't get you anywhere unless you have a franchise QB. Let's hope we have one.

MTK 08-25-2014 10:35 AM

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[QUOTE=irish;1078969]What is RG3 doing well right now? From what I have seen its not much but like I said, there's still time to get thing ironed out. I'd really like to see him play at least a quarter in the final preseason game because it seems like he needs the live action reps.



BTW, all this QB controversy is baloney. There is no QB controversy because the Skins didnt give up all those draft pick for RG3 to not play. RG3 is the QB until something catastrophic happens.[/QUOTE]


What does he do well? Put on the tape from 2012. Check tape from 2013 (it wasn't all bad considering the circumstances).

cdskins26 08-25-2014 10:45 AM

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Is there anybody who may remotely consider the possibility of dishing Captain Kirk to STL to recoup at least something from that RGIII trade? I know that it's risky, but maybe just the act of getting Cousins out of town could help stabilize things


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