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Daseal 05-15-2005 02:11 AM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
Redskins: LaVar's cover skills are probably at the bottom of that trio, but it gives us a lot of flexability because he CAN cover which is the important thing.

RedskinsJunkie 05-15-2005 08:52 AM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
Agreed, I was just saying that he is at the top of the trio (when healthy) of blowing up the QB or RB... You are absolutely right that the LB core that we have now gives us great flexibility... Do you think that the Skins are thinking of life after Lavar with the way they drafted???? Here is why I think they may be going that road (and I am not saying I agree with it..)

1. His attitude toward upeer management on his contract

2. His attitude towards the coaching staff on the way his injury was handled

3. His lingering knee (I know it is getting better but will he be as explosive?)

4. Our cap situation isn't the best

5. His trade value after this year if he has a good year will be high

6. Lemar played well when he was out and they drafted the future of middle linebacker for us (It looks like)

Just some thoughts, what do you think???

skinsfanthru&thru 05-15-2005 10:57 AM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
there's no way they move Marcus to the middle when u take into account the fact that Marcus and Arrington will two of the teams best options for getting pressure on the qb from the outside on a regular basis. Williams will be able to get a mix of Marshall, Holdman, and the rookie to take care of the middle. And even though the writtings on the wall for it being over for Barrow, you never know cuz if he were to finally get healthy enough to play, he's the best option for the MLB spot.

Daseal 05-15-2005 12:07 PM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
Problem is Redskins, it'll be a long time till we can dump laVar thanks to the crazy contract we gave him.

offiss 05-15-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]Problem is Redskins, it'll be a long time till we can dump laVar thanks to the crazy contract we gave him.[/QUOTE]


Got that right!

RedskinsJunkie 05-15-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
We are about 6 million dollars closer right now though!!!

wolfeskins 05-15-2005 04:07 PM

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if lavar returns healthy and has a probowl year AGAIN or if he plays good but does not RETURN to the probowl he will not be leaving the skins. lavar IS and has ALWAYS been the skins best linebacker. i'm quite certain lavar will live up to his contract that some on this board, myself EXCLUDED, say was too big.

mooby 05-15-2005 04:12 PM

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i agree with wolfeskins. people treat lavar like he's washed up and not worth the money, but the guy is a perenial pro bowler when he is healthy.he has a good contract, but you guys treat him like he isn't worth anything and he's wasting the redskins time. you guys talk about him like he has way more negatives than positives.

wolfeskins 05-15-2005 04:21 PM

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mooby, you and i are on the same page on this one. when the skins gave lavar that contract he was coming of of his 2nd or 3rd consecutive probowl. he was worth every penny. he gets hurt and people want to trade him away and say he's overrated. the skins paid good money to him to keep him and people say they overpaid. then the skins lose two players ( smoot and pierce) who are not nearly as good as lavar and those same people say the skins should have spent more money on them. those people who make those comments are trying to play both sides of the fence.

GoSkins! 05-15-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
Lavar has played at a pro bowl level in spite of the coaching turn over that has been a Redskins staple over the years. Now, with a retruning coaching staff, maybe we will be able to see what Lavar can really do. Look for his true break out year to be next next season (2006-2007). If he would have played more last year, I think that this would be his big year.

Once Williams and Arrington get comfortable with each other, look out.

wolfeskins 05-15-2005 04:24 PM

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hell, i'd say if lavar had not got hurt he would have been the nfl defensive player of the year. and that is not at all far fetched.

Daseal 05-15-2005 04:34 PM

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Positives: Great athelete, Good personallity to be the face of the Redskins, hard hitter. Always around the ball. Explosive hitter.

Negatives: Huge contract that limits what the Redskins can do as far as the salary cap is concerned, Complains about everything - and does it through the wrong venues (I don't wanna get in a 3 point stance, waaaaaaaah; You owe me 6.5M that would have been impossible to add to my contract when the deal was written, WAHHHHHH; I don't need coaching--I'm a freelancer!), Overpursues. Is a bitch to deal with thanks to The Postons and him thinking he's above every other NFL player and making it hard to market his name.

LaVar is exciting to watch, but I think LeMarr Marshall played more reliably than he does. LeMarr won't make the huge plays, but he won't overpursue and get knocked out of the play for a big gain like LaVar will do. Is LaVar our best linebacker? Probably. Is he worth the contract? Probably not.

Also, don't act like this became an issue when Arrington got hurt. Many people on this board weren't, and still aren't, happy with LaVar's salary.

wolfeskins 05-15-2005 04:50 PM

Re: Marcus in the Middle?
 
i've only been a member since aug. 2004 so i don't know what was said about lavar before that but i'm doubting that people were saying he was overrated when he single handedly turned the skins season around during marty ball or when he was making probowls or when he was ending troy aikmans career. did he make some mistakes on and off the field yes but his possitives out way his negatives. do you want to trade sean taylor because he's acting like a punk. marshall played just good enough to stay but did not excell the way others did , lavar will excell.

Daseal 05-15-2005 06:00 PM

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Taylor's situation is kind of enigmatic. He's not saying what's going on, the 'skins aren't saying what's going on. I'm guessing he wants a new contract, but we're jumping to conclusions. Missing optional camp happens a lot, and even the almight LaVar has missed it before. Was that not blown out of proportion because he's the media's darling?

LaVar is a talented athelete. No one on this board does or could dispute that. The main argument is what's he worth? Is he better to have on the field than Marshall, does Marshall do a fine job for making 500k(?) a year? Sure does.

BossHog 05-15-2005 06:13 PM

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Perhaps the talk about Washington playing MLB last year because coaches weren't sure what they had in Pierce? :oink:


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