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[quote=skinsfaninok;1133883]I say change the logo to the R and keep redskins or change to warriors. But hopefully it never changes[/quote]

NEVER!! Love the indian
Warrior, plus he has Joey T. And Matthew McConaughey's profile.

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[quote=irish;1133882]The organization should just stop using the word Redskins. Dont drop it just dont use it anymore. Call them Washington or Washington Football and keep the uniforms and logo the same.[/quote]

Hey don't steal my idea! :)

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This was a separate Trademark case as the Redskins' case, but struck down for the same reasons. It figures to apply to the Redskins.

The unconstitutional ruling took place in US District court. It could still go to the appellate level, and after that if the Supreme Court decides it wants to hear it, it could go there. So no, it's not over.

But this is a huge blow to anybody hoping to force a team name change. It doesn't take a constitutional scholar to understand how the government refusing trademarks for this reason is a violation of First Amendment rights.

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I'll just throw out an alternate idea I had.
Let Dan meet with a few or a tribe leader or whatever you want to call them and get their permission and grace to change to the name to the name of their tribe. You dont change the logo, just the name.
So you could have -

The Washington Algonquin
The Washington Cherokees
The Washington Iroquois
etc
etc

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bad thing about all of this is ..the better the Redskins do the more this becomes a issue ..IF the Skins can go deep into the playoffs this will become a loud roar.

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Washington Football Nation.

(note* only if a name change is forced)

Nation would encompass all Native Americans with positive, supportive, non-divisive connotation.

The team represents the capital of the United States, or the American Nation. Again unifying.

We wouldn’t have to change the logo.

Added benefits

We would take the "America's Team" title belt

All kinds of good (corny) word play available with stadium and fan base (we would be "the Nation", a new meaning to "Welcome to Monday Night Football in the Nation's Capital" etc, etc)

All this is tongue in cheek (and only if a name change is forced).

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Just leave the name as is. This has been going on for years and years now. People like Florio act like this "movement" has a lot more support than it really does. The majority of people don't care or don't think the name should change.

Carry on.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1133934]Just leave the name as is. This has been going on for years and years now. People like Florio act like this "movement" has a lot more support than it really does. The majority of people don't care or don't think the name should change.

Carry on.[/QUOTE]


Not only that but it will not just end with redskins. The people/activists will find something new to bitch about.

I laugh at this, but really this will what will happen...[url]https://twitter.com/barelyin/status/679364872635715584[/url]

GIANTS will be seen as offensive. You can twist anything into being offensive. What about Detroit Lions if a Lion ate your cousin at the zoo?

The offended people will always be there and always looking for a reason to be offended.

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Whether or not it becomes a roar is completely irrelevant. Whether or not it's constitutional to ban a trademark because it's offensive is the only relevant point.

I don't care how people feel about it, because I know how Dan Snyder feels about it. All that matters is whether he's permitted to keep using it.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1133939]Whether or not it becomes a roar is completely irrelevant. Whether or not it's constitutional to ban a trademark because it's offensive is the only relevant point.



I don't care how people feel about it, because I know how Dan Snyder feels about it. All that matters is whether he's permitted to keep using it.[/QUOTE]


True but if advertisers start cutting ties and hitting them or the league in the wallet that could force a change. Highly unlikely to happen though.

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[quote=MTK;1133940]True but if advertisers start cutting ties and hitting them or the league in the wallet that could force a change. Highly unlikely to happen though.[/quote]

Yeah I don't find that likely either, because corporate marketing departments pay attention to polls too. And even though there's a noisy group out there, the polls still say more than 80% of people and more than 80% of Native Americans specifically don't have a problem with the name.

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[quote=Giantone;1133914][url=http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/07/02/redskins-officially-dictionary-defined-racial-slur-all-cases-155614]'Redskins' Is Officially a Dictionary-Defined Racial Slur—in All Cases - ICTMN.com[/url][/quote]And yet most native americans disagree with your article, giantone.

[url=http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Native-Americans-Redskins-tolerance/2014/06/30/id/579957/]Redskins Name OK With Most Native Americans[/url]

[url=http://www.ryot.org/shouldnt-state-oklahoma-change-name/427581]While We're Objecting to the Word 'Redskins,' Shouldn't Oklahoma Change Its Name, Too? - RYOT News[/url]

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/]How Many Native Americans Think ‘Redskins’ is a Slur? « CBS DC[/url]

[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html[/URL]

In fact, the poster in your stupid article is completely wrong, the name "redskins" wasn't coined to describe scalps at all, but to distinguish NAs from whites (redskins vs whiteskins).

[url=http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin-examples.htm]Untitled Document[/url]

[url=http://languagehat.com/the-real-history-of-the-word-redskin/]languagehat.com : The Real History of the Word Redskin.[/url]

[url=http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/]Ives Goddard / Home Page[/url]

We have been through this argument before, giantone. I am surprised you are still displaying your ignorance on this issue. Even though you have been shown these facts before. Are you just trolling now?

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[quote=NoCalHail;1133875]Regardless of our opinions, I believe the name is going to change eventually. It's one of those things we should probably prepare for. It might not be for a decade but I think it's happening.[/quote]

This era of political correctness doesn't make sense to me
......if the.name hasn't changed by now it probably won't...

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I think there's a difference between PC and cultural sensitivity. It's probably not a good idea to have a team named after people or have people as mascots, period.

Just because something was ok a hundred years ago doesn't make it ok with time and more knowledge/awareness.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1133965]And yet most native americans disagree with your article, giantone.

We have been through this argument before, giantone. I am surprised you are still displaying your ignorance on this issue. Even though you have been shown these facts before. Are you just trolling now?[/quote]


First all I was responding to it (the name) that it's not considered a slur.Second if you go back you will see I am on the side of Dan Snyder but feel that change will come so beat them to the punch.As Rushskins has said go with the R on the helmet and just call them the Skins or Washington ,you seem to ignore the facts so I won't get into the ignorance argument . I will say that no I'm not trolling just making a comment on a posting of a forum I happen to go on. Opinions happen.