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Our starting defense looks awesome. Good sign. We'll get a huge test week 1 with Big Ben and Brown.

If Jones is out going into the regular season they'll bring Pierre Thomas in. I'm more concerned about the run blocking at this point than the guys running it. I don't feel too confident about our LG/C combination. I think next year we'll have new starters at both those positions that aren't on the team this year. Whether for cap or performance reasons, I don't see a lot our current guys back next year there.

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[quote=Chico23231;1145846]So we rushed for 101 yards on 31 carries against a team and defensive system that was top 5 against the run last year.....what? Did folks watch the game the other night?

We stopped them 9 rushes for 35 yards.

I saw our first team Oline blocking the fuck out of the jets...[/quote]

Just can't get that excited about pre season. I would take that with a grain of salt.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1145849]Just can't get that excited about pre season. I would take that with a grain of salt.[/quote]

Well it was a decent test. I think the main reason gruden ran so much was to put things on tape to see which backs are running well and is this combo of Lauvao and Long playing along side at guard-center part of the answer. So grain of salt with outcome, but coaching staff is serious about improving the running game...running 31 times is decent total for a preseason game. I like what I saw overall...of course the injury was terrible.

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[quote=30gut;1145845]So we have a better OL, improved TE blocking, and supposedly improved RB but they all suck and that's why don't run the ball better.

Lol, we can play this game all day or we can actually talk football.

Cheers ;)[/quote]

Maybe. They are on paper but that doesn't mean anything.

Before Jones was hurt, that's the first time all units have been clicking in the run game since the Rams game last year.

We remained committed to the run last year even when we shouldn't:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingAttempts]2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

We ran the ball 44% of all plays.

That's with a bad defense and playing from behind.

Our downfield big yardage plays are based off play action and we are good at it:

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2015-play-action-offense]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 Play-Action Offense[/url]

Can't do that without the run.

Speaking in general assertions that Jay is a passing coach and that's what makes the team bad on the running plays is a cop out and it's easier to fit into a narrative.

On individual running plays, all can look at the film and see where it broke down:

1. QB should have checked out
2. OLine missed a block or got bull dozed
3. TE didn't hold a block
4. RB stutter stepped or missed a read.

For example, the first running play against Atlanta, Niles lost his block and Long was blown up when the defender got his hands inside. Maybe they didn't understand how much Jay really wanted them to not screw that play up.

Blaming philosophy, an obtuse ideal you can't point to on film, rather than execution, both play calling and play, is the same vague line you were pushing from last year.

THIS TEAM IS SERIOUS ABOUT RUNNING THE FOOTBALL EFFECTIVELY.

Welcome back it's been a long summer.

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[url=http://www.espn980.com/audio-vault/]Audio Vault | ESPN 980[/url]

Cooley's show 8-19-16 Hour 2, about a third of the way through, Cooley elaborates on the run scheme.

He says the Oline is blocking differently than when Kyle Shanahan was here and that the new blocking technique is Bill Callahan's.

Goes into several other run game related topics.

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One guy who some of you don't like but I do, is having a solid pre-season RYAN GRANT. The other thing that stood out, was time of possession when the first unit OL was there.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/26437/redskins-run-game-showed-positives-vs-jets-vernon-davis-blocking-helps]Redskins' run game showed positives vs. Jets; Vernon Davis' blocking helps - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Agree with keim

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Didn't get to catch this game. Was it a snoozefest?

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[url]https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/status/766844307928190976[/url]

Tandler, admittedly a bit of a drama queen, tweeted that Matt Jones had difficulty raising his arm to chest level.

This could be a lot worse than anticipated.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1145855]Didn't get to catch this game. Was it a snoozefest?[/quote]

Gruden held out lotta folks...wish he woulda sat jones too

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1145856][url]https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/status/766844307928190976[/url]

Tandler, admittedly a bit of a drama queen, tweeted that Matt Jones had difficulty raising his arm to chest level.

This could be a lot worse than anticipated.[/quote]

So if the 3rd game is the warm up...who starts? Robert Kelly and Keith Marshall should rotate. Thompson as the third down back.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145853]One guy who some of you don't like but I do, is having a solid pre-season RYAN GRANT. The other thing that stood out, was time of possession when the first unit OL was there.[/quote]

Yeah I've always liked Grant,he's always killed it in preseason then the season comes and not much happening

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[quote=Chico23231;1145858]So if the 3rd game is the warm up...who starts? Robert Kelly and Keith Marshall should rotate. Thompson as the third down back.[/quote]

Agreed and can guarantee that will happen. They will take a look at both with the first line and the better player might be the backup to Jones. They will have two intense weeks to make an impression.

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Just curious, why don't we bring Pierre Thomas back? haven't heard anything about him lately

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;1145879]Just curious, why don't we bring Pierre Thomas back? haven't heard anything about him lately[/quote]

If Pierre Thomas was so great why isn't he in someone's roster by now? I want to see Kelley and Marshall extended play with the 1st string OL this Friday, then I will panic if they play like shit.