Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=MTK;1163646]Nah, I think Bradley was the top target with Manusky being the fallback option all along. I honestly don't think it's about it not being a desirable job. Outside of a few teams in the league there's no such thing as job security beyond 2-3 years.[/quote]

I can go for that, but still you had Pettine and co on the table. Manusky was in similar situations with not a whole lot of talent at his previous DC gigs, but damn, get a stud if you can get one. There is no cap for coaches. I am glad the players like him and I hope he is more aggressive. I am not in this is terrible camp, just is unsettling that this might mean nobody of higher quality wants to work for us

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Hiring Manusky is like spending hours online looking at restaurants to go to, then just saying fuck it, and making a TV dinner.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=ethat001;1163634]First link above from Bangee7 in the other thread. Both links describe in detail how bad his defenses were and why he was fired from his past two gigs.

Horrible move. It explains our worst fears -- we got the equivalent of Joe Barry - just a guy with a horrible track record of bad defenses. As has been said, it's certainly possible the good D candidates said no because of job security (ie. too much risk of Gruden getting fired in 2 years & having only 1-2 years in the role). But it's ludicrous to believe Manusky makes our D competitive. Best case scenario is Scott McC drafts well / gets good FA players, which automatically improve the defensive play despite Manusky / not because of him.[/quote]

Barry was 32nd in both yards and points in his two years as a coordinator before he came here. You could see failure coming from a mile away. At least Manusky has had some competent defenses in other stops. Plus he has worked with McCloughan. Kind of an eh hire to me, but there's room for optimism unlike when Barry was hired

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

I'll give him a chance, but this is disappointing to say the least

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Give Greg a year and some talent. They must sign mid-level free agents on defense CB, S and LB. Then draft defense.

Must play a 4-3.... Kerrigan, Smith, and Murphy are not OLBs. And they have no NT

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Best part, the players will like playing for him. The worst part, reading that source regarding his 3rd down defenses from the Chargers days. That terrifies me as that is our biggest weakness here already.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Gruden continues to show an inability to expand his hiring comfort zone. I get that Bradley had options, but Pettine remains available. He was so obviously the best resume out there.

This better work this year or Gruden needs to be fired. He appears to just be a good coach. I'm not seeing any of the necessary leadership qualities.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

The thing is that there are coaches on this staff that they did not want to lose (Pleasant and Olivadotti) and so this allows them to keep those pieces in house. Watch for Tomsula to possibly become D-Line Coach, promote Pleasant to secondary coach and hire Jeff Fitzgerald Outside linebackers coach. May even add an additional coach for safeties.

I hope they could add Pettine as a positional coach in some capacity.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;1163660]The thing is that there are coaches on this staff that they did not want to lose (Pleasant and Olivadotti) and so this allows them to keep those pieces in house. Watch for Tomsula to possibly become D-Line Coach, promote Pleasant to secondary coach and hire Jeff Fitzgerald Outside linebackers coach. May even add an additional coach for safeties.

I hope they could add Pettine as a positional coach in some capacity.[/quote]

As far as I know, Pleasant has already left.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=MTK;1163639]It's ludicrous to think anybody would instantly make this D better with the current roster.[/quote]

Are you sure about that? I'd wager quite a few would make this team instantly better. They wouldn't have to do too much - we had the 28th rank D in yards, and historically bad 3rd down. It could be ludicrous to think someone could make it top 10 - no one is suggesting that. There is certainly a lack of talent on this team, but Barry was reportedly using concepts where players got confused, and was late sending in calls. It's possible that simply getting calls in time and simplyifing the defense could lead to an instant improvement -- to at least average level.

Anyway, lot of draft picks and tons of cap space in free agency, and if O fixes run game and red zone it would help even further. Lot of ways we can improve defense with a JAG (just-a-guy) d-coordinator.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

I'd rather suck being aggressive than sitting back and letting the qbs play pitch and catch. So in that regard it's a good hire. Our floor is a more exciting style of suck.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=ethat001;1163663]Are you sure about that? I'd wager quite a few would make this team instantly better. They wouldn't have to do too much - we had the 28th rank D in yards, and historically bad 3rd down. It could be ludicrous to think someone could make it top 10 - no one is suggesting that. There is certainly a lack of talent on this team, but Barry was reportedly using concepts where players got confused, and was late sending in calls. It's possible that simply getting calls in time and simplyifing the defense could lead to an instant improvement -- to at least average level.

Anyway, lot of draft picks and tons of cap space in free agency, and if O fixes run game and red zone it would help even further. Lot of ways we can improve defense with a JAG (just-a-guy) d-coordinator.[/quote]

All good points, but looking at the defensive rooster the best coordinator couldn't turn this defense into a top 15 defense in the league...barry scheme was lacking for sure, but it's pretty obvious like Matty says it's only so much you can do.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1163661]As far as I know, Pleasant has already left.[/quote]

Redskins blocked him, I believe still under contract.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

I like the move and have no issues with it. To me it's a win - win all the way around. That does not mean i would not have liked Wade or Pettine, but at the end it's a good move.

I only hope the fan base will get behind the move and give him a chance. I do not want to see post in November bitching about the move.

Re: Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator
 

Nice old article on GM.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1989/07/26/call-of-wild-comes-early-for-manusky/b5e17a16-6d5c-4995-a554-740f7b2b4e06/?utm_term=.7878afdb1505[/url]