Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=OmahaRedskins;1218194]Because they switched from 3-4 to 4-3 the second year and he was only there for 3 years.[/quote]

Who's they? They as in "not Rob Ryan?" Or Rob Ryan made the switch?

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=OmahaRedskins;1218189]He had the number 2 defense while at the saints. We haven't seen that since GW.[/quote]

That was the only year he had a top 10 defense in 12 years as s defensive coordinator.

His defenses in the bottom half of the league in 10 of 12 years and 24th or worse 7 of those 12 years.

As a defensive coordinator, he was atrocious. Maybe he is a LB guru, but my initial thought is this is an immense downgrade from Olivadotti

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

Just because you're not a great HC/Coordinator, does not mean you can't be good position coach. [U]See[/U] Jim Tomsula.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1218197]Just because you're not a great HC/Coordinator, does not mean you can't be good position coach. [U]See[/U] Jim Tomsula.[/quote]

Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=mooby;1218185]You've got it wrong, Mason Foster has the work ethic, he just doesn't have the talent/athleticism. And Zach Brown has the talent/athleticism, he just doesn't have the work ethic.[/quote]

Well there you go then. Foster shouldn't even be out there to begin with. To me that is piss poor management of your team.

Insert play making rookie who can run and the girlfriend beater.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218198]Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?[/quote]

He never worked for Tampa Bay, he's got that going for him. They must've thought he was the best candidate that would actually come to Washington. I'm willing to see instead of just saying he sucks.

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218198]Tomsula was a widely successful DL coach for years before stumbling into an HC position. when you've been an utter failure as a HC/Coordinator, and completely out of the league for years.... what evidence is there that you should be handed a position coach job? Or presumption that you'll do anything other than what you've done your entire career - fail?[/quote]

Obviously he hasn't failed everywhere he's been or he wouldn't have been coaching for almost 30 years. Somehow as a society, we've come to the point where you are either the GOAT or you suck. And if you aren't the GOAT, you shouldn't be doing X job. That's BS.. The guy has been involved with two Super Bowl winning teams and has decades of experience. I think he's worthy of a position job. Give the guy a chance..

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[quote=RedskinJake;1218202]Obviously he hasn't failed everywhere he's been or he wouldn't have been coaching for almost 30 years. Somehow as a society, we've come to the point where you are either the GOAT or you suck. And if you aren't the GOAT, you shouldn't be doing X job. That's BS.. The guy has been involved with two Super Bowl winning teams and has decades of experience. I think he's worthy of a position job. Give the guy a chance..[/quote]

Your post proves my point. Ryan isn't some unknown commodity. We have 30 years of data on him. Its not like he's some young upcoming guy we should give a chance to because he's succeeded in lower roles so there is reason to think he could succeed here. He hasn't been an LB coach in over 15 years. And that was under belicheck so you could easily argue he was just reaping the benefits of being in a great coaching staff with great players as opposed do doing anything significant of his own merit. I would argue the only reason he's had the opportunities he's had is because of the reputation of his father and brother. He's benefitted from the Ryan name. Its quite telling that he's been out of the league entirely for 2 years and the best job he could find is as the linebackers coach on the most dysfunctional team in the league.

Ryan is not bringing us hope or opportunity. He's a washed up HasBeen/NeverWas who offers zero upside.

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

I'm willing to give him a shot, because somehow he managed to finagle his way into 4 coordinators jobs despite below average results (maybe it was the family name?). But if he can't coach a position group he's done.

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

Legit question. Would you rather have Joe Barry or Rob Ryan coaching the inside LBs?

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=mooby;1218206]I'm willing to give him a shot, because somehow he managed to finagle his way into 4 coordinators jobs despite below average results (maybe it was the family name?). But if he can't coach a position group he's done.[/quote]

He's done no matter what because Gruden is getting canned next year anyway.

Re: Rob Ryan added to staff
 

[quote=Schneed10;1218208]He's done no matter what because Gruden is getting canned next year anyway.[/quote]

You willing to bet on that? I hope that's the case but we should know better by now then to bet on DS making a smart move.

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[quote=Schneed10;1218207]Legit question. Would you rather have Joe Barry or Rob Ryan coaching the inside LBs?[/quote]
without a doubt rob ryan coaching ilb

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[quote=bigant;1218215]without a doubt rob ryan coaching ilb[/quote]

Based on what?

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Joe Barry is coaching in the SB, just saying


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