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skinsguy 09-11-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=monk81]I was "watching" from NFL.com being an out of state Redskin fan.......

but why oh why did Gibbs with a little over 2 minutes to go and Redskins driving hand Betts the ball for 3 consecutive times with little gain and then punted. And after the interception were down at the Bears 17 and Brunell took a kneel......why not give Hall a FG try at least....??????[/QUOTE]


HHhhmmmm, you can take a knee and not have to give the ball back to the Bears, or you could kick a field goal, give the ball back to the Bears and risk the Bears running it all the way back for a TD. Seemed like the right call to me.

BleedBurgundy 09-11-2005 04:38 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
Chargers are running all over the Cowgirls...

skinnyfan 09-11-2005 04:39 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
We are going to be horrible this year. Brunell, Ramsey, or Campbell.....doesn't matter. I have been a fan for a long time and have no confidence in our offense. We made the Bears look like the best defense in the league. Everyone act blind and make excuses....because we do that best! I accept reality and look for a worse season than last year. We had everything in our favor in this game and still only won by 2 points. HORRIBLE. We are going to get pounded by KC, Denver, Philly....must I go on. Anyway....all these positive posts make me want to ask if anyone watched the game??'

skinsguy 09-11-2005 04:40 PM

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Cowboys so far playing quite sloppy!

That Guy 09-11-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
theres ssome hate to brunell (i think) because he throws shorter passes and (even in preseason) iss less willing to go deep.

He doesn't make mistakes, but he makes less big plays too. Either way, he was fine, but I would have liked at least 1 TD. Moss 4 for 96, 24ypc avg, that' not a bad start. patten was a bit quiet, hopefully we'll see him and jacobs go for gold on monday.

ST on offense ;) would've been nice to see him catch one, but if you guys wanted a big receiver, he's 232 f**king pounds.

That Guy 09-11-2005 04:49 PM

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[QUOTE=skinnyfan]We are going to be horrible this year. Brunell, Ramsey, or Campbell.....doesn't matter. I have been a fan for a long time and have no confidence in our offense. We made the Bears look like the best defense in the league. Everyone act blind and make excuses....because we do that best! I accept reality and look for a worse season than last year. We had everything in our favor in this game and still only won by 2 points. HORRIBLE. We are going to get pounded by KC, Denver, Philly....must I go on. Anyway....all these positive posts make me want to ask if anyone watched the game??'[/QUOTE]

cause the vikings and philly really destroyed us last year? they were close games, we're good against the run. KC will score regardless, but i think we can at least compete with denver and philly at least once.

skinsguy 09-11-2005 04:50 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
I think Gibbs felt a low scoring game was enough to beat the Bears, but no matter how bad the Cowboys might look today, we are going to need to take some shots down field.

Just think, the game really should have been 9-0!

GoSkins! 09-11-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=skinnyfan]We are going to be horrible this year. Brunell, Ramsey, or Campbell.....doesn't matter. I have been a fan for a long time and have no confidence in our offense. We made the Bears look like the best defense in the league. Everyone act blind and make excuses....because we do that best! I accept reality and look for a worse season than last year. We had everything in our favor in this game and still only won by 2 points. HORRIBLE. We are going to get pounded by KC, Denver, Philly....must I go on. Anyway....all these positive posts make me want to ask if anyone watched the game??'[/QUOTE]

You are right that we looked bad on offense. BUT.........
We actually ran the ball well and had a good chance to score a couple of TDs.

The game was not as close as the score made it seem. We dominated the entire game. The bears offense could only score off of a terrible KO fumble. Those turnovers have to stop.

Our running game looked good against a good run defense. The problem is simply that we have one QB that seems to have no feel for the pass rush and another one that is scared to attack a defense. If we can put Ramsey on the move more or convince Brunnel that he should push harder for the TD then we may be alright.

Regardless, it should be obvious that our defense will allow us to be in games all the way until the 4th quarter and our running game should really wear out opposing defenses.

We may have another season of not scoring much, but I think we can still win more than 6 games.

skinnyfan 09-11-2005 04:55 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]cause the vikings and philly really destroyed us last year? they were close games, we're good against the run. KC will score regardless, but i think we can at least compete with denver and philly at least once.[/QUOTE]

Are you wanting to live in the past or the now....last year is last year. And we don't play Minnesota this year....did you see what Tampa did to them?? I hate this sh**. You guys prove me wrong somewhere down the road and we'll talk. We CAN"T SCORE POINTS. And this is no different than last year. Did you also see what KC did to the Jets offense.......oh yeah.....shut them out. If there is any way to make negative points, we would be able to do it.

skinnyfan 09-11-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=GoSkins!]You are right that we looked bad on offense. BUT.........
We actually ran the ball well and had a good chance to score a couple of TDs.

The game was not as close as the score made it seem. We dominated the entire game. The bears offense could only score off of a terrible KO fumble. Those turnovers have to stop.

Our running game looked good against a good run defense. The problem is simply that we have one QB that seems to have no feel for the pass rush and another one that is scared to attack a defense. If we can put Ramsey on the move more or convince Brunnel that he should push harder for the TD then we may be alright.

Regardless, it should be obvious that our defense will allow us to be in games all the way until the 4th quarter and our running game should really wear out opposing defenses.

We may have another season of not scoring much, but I think we can still win more than 6 games.[/QUOTE]

Win more than 6 games....................?? Ok....then 7.

DirtBagZ 09-11-2005 04:56 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
Post game thought...any joy from the victory was tampered by Gibb's post game were basically Brunnell is going to be our QB. Get ready for a loss in Big D...Brunnell is NOT a NFL caliber QB anymore, a servicable back-up maybe, but not a starter. I don't recall him hitting a single reciever in stride, like Ramsey did with Santa Moss, nor does he seem to look off the DB's, hell Orton looked more poised and even pumped faked, Brunnell locks-on his receivers like a rookie. It is going to be a long year again.

Gibbs just cannot except the fact that he made a mistake with Brunnell. His postgame all emphasized was that Brunnell does not make mistakes, which is fine and good, but in the modern NFL you have to stretch the field and take chances with down the field throws...as soon as Brunnell stepped out on the field I felt like I was in the movie Ground Hog day, except this time it was watching last years offense all over again. I hope I am wrong...I really do, but my gut instinct says otherwise.

skinnyfan 09-11-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]Post game thought...any joy from the victory was tampered by Gibb's post game were basically Brunnell is going to be our QB. Get ready for a loss in Big D...Brunnell is NOT a NFL caliber QB anymore, a servicable back-up maybe, but not a starter. I don't recall him hitting a single reciever in stride, like Ramsey did with Santa Moss, nor does he seem to look off the DB's, hell Orton looked more poised and even pumped faked, Brunnell locks-on his receivers like a rookie. It is going to be a long year again.

Gibbs just cannot except the fact that he made a mistake with Brunnell. His postgame all emphasized was that Brunnell does not make mistakes, which is fine and good, but in the modern NFL you have to stretch the field and take chances with down the field throws...as soon as Brunnell stepped out on the field I felt like I was in the movie Ground Hog day, except this time it was watching last years offense all over again. I hope I am wrong...I really do, but my gut instinct says otherwise.[/QUOTE]


God I wish I could've written that post.....took the words out of my mouth.

skinsguy 09-11-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
Gee, I'm listening to the post game conference right now, and I'm not sure where you got that Gibbs is starting Brunell for the season. When asked about Patrick Ramsey or Mark Brunell starting, Gibbs replies, "I don't know, we'll have to look at it after everybody is healed up and see."

Sounds to me like we're waiting to see how injuried Ramsey really is.

jdlea 09-11-2005 05:07 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]Post game thought...any joy from the victory was tampered by Gibb's post game were basically Brunnell is going to be our QB. Get ready for a loss in Big D...Brunnell is NOT a NFL caliber QB anymore, a servicable back-up maybe, but not a starter. I don't recall him hitting a single reciever in stride, like Ramsey did with Santa Moss, nor does he seem to look off the DB's, hell Orton looked more poised and even pumped faked, Brunnell locks-on his receivers like a rookie. It is going to be a long year again.

Gibbs just cannot except the fact that he made a mistake with Brunnell. His postgame all emphasized was that Brunnell does not make mistakes, which is fine and good, but in the modern NFL you have to stretch the field and take chances with down the field throws...as soon as Brunnell stepped out on the field I felt like I was in the movie Ground Hog day, except this time it was watching last years offense all over again. I hope I am wrong...I really do, but my gut instinct says otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Mine too. This is a trainwreck.

DirtBagZ 09-11-2005 05:14 PM

Re: Postgame thoughts
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy]Gee, I'm listening to the post game conference right now, and I'm not sure where you got that Gibbs is starting Brunell for the season. When asked about Patrick Ramsey or Mark Brunell starting, Gibbs replies, "I don't know, we'll have to look at it after everybody is healed up and see."

Sounds to me like we're waiting to see how injuried Ramsey really is.[/QUOTE]

I was listening to the radio, AM 980. Also Joe Jacoby, who I think knows Joe Gibbs a lot better than you or I made this inference from what Gibbs said. Trust me though I would be more than happy to be wrong...if I am wrong I will jump for joy...feel free to say I told you so.

I just do not want to see Brunell starting, and as I said before I will be extremely happy if I end up being wrong.


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