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[QUOTE=hurrykaine]If Antonio Brown can get cut after one fumble, so can Cartwright. Cartwright has shown a propensity to fumble in the past. The Carolina game in 2003 - the fumbled on the goal-line while going in for a TD and it cost us the game. Cartwright picked up the first down, he should've protected the ball better. If you have to send a message that turnovers will not be tolerated, and since you can't cut your QB for fumbling, Rock should be made an example of. That said, since everyone loves Rock for his work ethic and character, there's a good chance that we'll be able to re-sign him in a week or so.

I know it won't happen, but its a great way to send a message to the players that TOs won't be tolerated.[/QUOTE]

How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?

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[QUOTE=mooby]...jared allen, i'll give him his credit... but chris samuels isn't getting paid a shitload of money to have his ass handed to him on a silver platter...[/QUOTE]
Uh. Jansen got beat by Allen too. Obvisouly, the guy was pumped. I didn't hear a word from you Samuels' bashers when he didn't allow a sack against the all too hyped DE DeMarcus Ware.

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]How could you do that and not cut Brunell? Hell how could you bench ramsey for turning it over, and not bench brunell for the same thing?

I'm not trying to start shit and I agree that Brunell is doing a great job for the most part, but I'm just saying it would be extremely hypocritical to cut cartwright for 1 fumble, and not punish brunell for 2. Even though cartwright's went for a TD, how the hell was he supposed to control that?[/QUOTE]


Protecting the ball with both hands is a start.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]With Betts hurt and Portis seemingly limping off the field after each carry, can we really even afford to cut Rock?[/QUOTE]

quite simply, no

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]quite simply, no[/QUOTE]Give Nemo a shot! We didn't sign him not to use him. He showed some balls catching that kickoff too.

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I guess we're forgetting that Nemo also had a tendency to fumble in the preseason.

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Same old same old out of Brunell, 2 more fumbles today, which does happen, in fact it happens every game with him, Gibbs biggest knock on Ramsey was his TO's and how they will not be tolerated, unless your name is Brunell or Portis, or should I say GIBBS BOY'S. Portis had another stellar running performance today, as usual he run's through the tackles like he's not wearing a cup, at least we started to get him the ball on occasion useing sweeps, I only saw 1 screen to him and the RB screen was there all day, I saw him tackled by the turf monster 3 or 4 times, it doesn't seem the extra weight is helping if a player's shadow is capable of tackling him. Didn't Portis have carreer day's running against the Chiefs before he became a skin? I wonder what happened between now and then? Oh yea Portis had a boo boo on his calf today I forgot.


What are the odd's Portis scores a TD on the ground before the season end's?

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guys it time to start Lavar.......we need that impact player, every great team has one on each team and were lucky we have 3 Taylor, Washington, Arrington.....play him

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[QUOTE=offiss]Same old same old out of Brunell, 2 more fumbles today, which does happen, in fact it happens every game with him, Gibbs biggest knock on Ramsey was his TO's and how they will not be tolerated, unless your name is Brunell or Portis, or should I say GIBBS BOY'S.[/QUOTE]


Yawn! I'll take Brunell over Ramsey at this point. Your argument is weak at best.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I guess we're forgetting that Nemo also had a tendency to fumble in the preseason.[/QUOTE]True. Hopefully Betts returns soon.

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[QUOTE=offiss]Same old same old out of Brunell, 2 more fumbles today, which does happen, in fact it happens every game with him, Gibbs biggest knock on Ramsey was his TO's and how they will not be tolerated, unless your name is Brunell or Portis, or should I say GIBBS BOY'S. Portis had another stellar running performance today, as usual he run's through the tackles like he's not wearing a cup, at least we started to get him the ball on occasion useing sweeps, I only saw 1 screen to him and the RB screen was there all day, I saw him tackled by the turf monster 3 or 4 times, it doesn't seem the extra weight is helping if a player's shadow is capable of tackling him. Didn't Portis have carreer day's running against the Chiefs before he became a skin? I wonder what happened between now and then? Oh yea Portis had a boo boo on his calf today I forgot.


What are the odd's Portis scores a TD on the ground before the season end's?[/QUOTE]

I, too, am starting to wonder why it's ok for Brunell to fumble, but not ok for Ramsey. BTW - Brunell had more than his share of fumbles last year too. To paraphrase a line from George Orwell's "Animal Farm" - Every player is equal, but some are more equal than others, right?

Brunell is playing far better than he did last year, which isn't really saying much. But those fumbles are becoming an increasing concern.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Yawn! I'll take Brunell over Ramsey at this point. Your argument is weak at best.[/QUOTE]Enough said.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Yawn! I'll take Brunell over Ramsey at this point. Your argument is weak at best.[/QUOTE]

I agree...I'd take Brunell any day....I don't see why people are still argueing this.

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[QUOTE=LadyT]I, too, am starting to wonder why it's ok for Brunell to fumble, but not ok for Ramsey. BTW - Brunell had more than his share of fumbles last year too. To paraphrase a line from George Orwell's "Animal Farm" - Every player is equal, but some are more equal than others, right?

Brunell is playing far better than he did last year, which isn't really saying much. But those fumbles are becoming an increasing concern.[/QUOTE]

Cause Brunell is a much smarter player, instead of throwing it away, or running for a first down, Ramsey tires to air it into double coverage.

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[QUOTE=LadyT]I, too, am starting to wonder why it's ok for Brunell to fumble, but not ok for Ramsey. BTW - Brunell had more than his share of fumbles last year too. To paraphrase a line from George Orwell's "Animal Farm" - Every player is equal, but some are more equal than others, right?...[/QUOTE]Hey everybody, Ramsey got benched because he threw too many games away ie INTs. Neither took all the blame for being sacked because of poor pass protection.