Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

I just take issue in being in the same class as the Lions, Bears, Dolphins and Ravens.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

This is a joke! Just about all those power ranking are espn.com, nfl.com, cnnsi.com etc.... Skins are not going to get any respect unless they beat the Giants and Philly looses in DEN. Then with the Skins 5-2 clearly on top of the East they will have to open there eyes. The big problem is most media hates the Skins because they have been such an easy target with Danny Boy, and Spuirrer etc.... In the end its good for the team to be flying under the radar right now.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

[QUOTE=FRPLG]This is exactly the problem the Skins have right now. So many of these "experts" just don't have the time to watch every play and know every detail about a team. Their rankings are part fact, part emotion and part bias from previous seasons. This will chnage if we can our next two. These are two of the biggest games we've had in years coming up boys. Make or break type games.[/QUOTE]Actualy that was a compilment and he is admitting that its hard to say that the Skins are a good team which he recognizes.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Check out this garbage

[url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-rankings102505&prov=yhoo&type=lgns"]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-rankings102505&prov=yhoo&type=lgns[/url]

Where are the Skins ranked you may ask? Keep scrolling, keep scrolling... Yep that's right, the team with the 2nd ranked 'O' and 4th ranked 'D' is in the 'muddled middle'.

Look at the other teams there and tell me what's wrong with this picture.



[b]THE TOP 12[/b]


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/ind.gif[/img] [b]1.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ind/"]Indianapolis Colts[/url] (7-0) – Linebacker [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6534/"]Cato June[/url] leads the NFL with five interceptions, including two returned for touchdowns. Better yet, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4652/"]Edgerrin James[/url] is on pace to rush for 1,830 yards and 16 touchdowns.

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/pit.gif[/img] [b]2.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/url] (4-2) – The running game looks great, but Pittsburgh has to get the wide receiving corps healthy over the second half of the season. Rookie tight end [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7206/"]Heath Miller[/url] has 14 receptions and three touchdowns in the last three games.

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/den.gif[/img] [b]3.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den/"]Denver Broncos[/url] (5-2) – The defense has only been lukewarm all year, but its performance in Sunday's loss to the Giants was troubling. Super Bowl-caliber units don't give up fourth-quarter touchdowns that easily.

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/phi.gif[/img] [b]4.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/"]Philadelphia Eagles[/url] (4-2) – Apparently, a fire alarm went off in the second half against San Diego. I mistook it for the emergency siren that warns Andy Reid when he's dangerously close to actually calling a running play for [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5977/"]Brian Westbrook[/url].


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/tam.gif[/img] [b]5.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/tam/"]Tampa Bay Buccaneers[/url] (5-1) – Just when you were starting to worry about [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6774/"]Michael Clayton[/url]'s virtual disappearance from the Tampa offense, San Francisco's crummy pass defense comes to town.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/nwe.gif[/img] [b]6.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/"]New England Patriots[/url] (3-3) – After the bye week, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3914/"]Corey Dillon[/url] is healthy and ready to destroy Buffalo's porous run defense.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/jac.gif[/img] [b]7.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/jac/"]Jacksonville Jaguars[/url] (4-2) – Believe it or not, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6343/"]Byron Leftwich[/url] has never thrown for more than two touchdowns in an NFL game. With St. Louis coming to town, it's as good a time as any for Leftwich to accomplish that feat.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/sea.gif[/img] [b]8.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sea/"]Seattle Seahawks[/url] (5-2) – Don't look now, but the Seahawks have a top-10 defense that's capable of winning games, too. Seattle's 23 sacks rank third in the NFL.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/atl_2.gif[/img] [b]8.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/atl/"]Atlanta Falcons[/url] (5-2) – Say what you want about former receiver [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4703/"]Peerless Price[/url], but first-round picks [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6788/"]Michael Jenkins[/url] and [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7203/"]Roddy White[/url] haven't exactly lit the offense on fire, either. Stop acting like you don't know what the common denominator is in this equation.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/cin_2.gif[/img] [b]10.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url] (5-2) – I realize it was the heat of the moment, but [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6337/"]Carson Palmer[/url] and [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5652/"]T.J. Houshmandzadeh[/url] might want to beat a team with a winning record before they declare themselves better than a team like Pittsburgh.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/nyg_2.gif[/img] [b]11.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyg/"]New York Giants[/url] (4-2) – The NFL should have a moment of silence on Sunday for the passing of Wellington Mara. He was one of the league's greats, bringing Y.A. Tittle to the Giants and essentially authoring the division of television money in the NFL.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/car.gif[/img] [b]12.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/car/"]Carolina Panthers[/url] (4-2) – Haven't we heard this story? [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5458/"]Dan Morgan[/url]'s shoulder problems mean he's going to have to play hurt for the rest of the season.


[b]RISING[/b]

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/kan.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/kan/"]Kansas City Chiefs[/url] (4-2) – [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2547/"]Trent Green[/url] looked as good as he has all season in the win over Miami. But beyond [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3519/"]Eddie Kennison[/url], the Chiefs aren't going to get much out of their receivers.


[b]THE MUDDLED MIDDLE (in alphabetical order)[/b]

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/bal_2.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/"]Baltimore Ravens[/url] (2-4) – I had a hard time believing the whispers until this weekend, but it's safe to say Brian Billick will have a hard time saving his job if the Ravens' fortunes don't turn on a dime.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/buf.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/"]Buffalo Bills[/url] (3-4) – If anyone questioned the value of Takeo Spikes to the run defense, they aren't doing it now.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/chi.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/chi/"]Chicago Bears[/url] (3-3) – The No. 1 reason Chicago's defense is clicking? After all the talk about him being one of the NFL's most overrated players, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5038/"]Brian Urlacher[/url] is having one of the best seasons of his career.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/cle.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cle/"]Cleveland Browns[/url] (2-4) – With [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2900/"]Trent Dilfer[/url] stumbling and the season going down the tubes, the Browns might want to warm up [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7243/"]Charlie Frye[/url] just to see what they've got for the future.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/dal.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/dal/"]Dallas Cowboys[/url] (4-3) – What I can't figure out is why Bill Parcells thought he could count on Jose Cortez in the first place.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/det.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det/"]Detroit Lions[/url] (3-3) – Despite his fumble, it was nice to see [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5890/"]Mike Williams[/url] finally show some healthy production over the weekend. And if [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5889/"]Joey Harrington[/url] wasn't the problem on offense, then why did [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4924/"]Jeff Garcia[/url] do more with less this weekend?


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/mia.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/mia/"]Miami Dolphins[/url] (2-4) – Before you get all excited about [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5557/"]Sage Rosenfels[/url]' preseason numbers and start shouting for him to start, first consider the fact he faced second-string players.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/min.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/min/"]Minnesota Vikings[/url] (2-4) – After all the offseason hype about [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5492/"]Fred Smoot[/url], [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4117/"]Pat Williams[/url] and [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3921/"]Darren Sharper[/url], the kicker is looking like Minnesota's best free agent pickup of 2005. And coach Mike Tice had the line of the week when he said Sunday was the first time he's gotten "negative" with his team in the last two years. Things are kind of starting to make sense, huh?


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/nyj.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/"]New York Jets[/url] (2-5) – Anyone have the phone number for Ray Lucas or Neil O'Donnell? And sadly, it's possible that this might be the home stretch of [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3164/"]Curtis Martin[/url]'s career.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/oak.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/oak/"]Oakland Raiders[/url] (2-4) – The loss of [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4271/"]Charles Woodson[/url] means we get to see more of [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7214/"]Stanford Routt[/url] and [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7199/"]Fabian Washington[/url]. If that doesn't send Norv Turner scrambling to freshen up his resume, nothing will.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/stl.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/stl/"]St. Louis Rams[/url] (3-4) – Mike Martz stepping away is the best thing for this team and Martz. Will he be back? Anyone who suggests they know that answer is guessing.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/sdg.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sdg/"]San Diego Chargers[/url] (3-4) – Nobody is talking about it, but with A.J. Smith running the show, Marty Schottenheimer isn't safe. The Chargers have lost four games by 12 points, and the conservative play-calling from Schottenheimer has cost San Diego scoring opportunities in each defeat.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/was.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/was/"]Washington Redskins[/url] (4-2) – As if the defense needed any help, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5031/"]LaVar Arrington[/url] looked amazingly inspired after getting out of the doghouse. And while [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5937/"]Clinton Portis[/url] might have finally gotten his much-needed spark, the offense keeps getting pivotal contributions from role players: [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4546/"]Mike Sellers[/url], [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6046/"]Robert Royal[/url], [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6840/"]Chris Cooley[/url], [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6119/"]Rock Cartwright[/url], etc.


[b]FALLING[/b]

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/nor_2.gif[/img] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nor/"]New Orleans Saints[/url] (2-5) – I had to laugh when San Antonio mayor Phil Hardberger boasted that NFL owners would support him if he tried to lure the Saints to his city permanently. If Hardberger wants to preside over an NFL city, he needs to learn that the only thing NFL owners support is the debit portion of their checkbooks.


[b]THE BOTTOM FIVE[/b]

[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/ari.gif[/img] [b]28.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ari/"]Arizona Cardinals[/url] (2-4) – The season to this point is pretty much summed up by kicker [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5198/"]Neil Rackers[/url] having the team's most impressive accomplishment: going 20-for-20 on field goal attempts through six games.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/ten.gif[/img] [b]29.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ten/"]Tennessee Titans[/url] (2-5) – [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3114/"]Steve McNair[/url] is ready to return, but with the season pretty much in the dumps (and McNair due an insane balloon payment next season), it would be better to just go with [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5339/"]Billy Volek[/url] and prepare for the future.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/gnb.gif[/img] [b]30.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/"]Green Bay Packers[/url] (1-5) – Something to keep in mind with all the problems in the backfield: This is a great year to have a high draft pick with a slew of marquee running backs likely to be available.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/sfo.gif[/img] [b]31.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sfo/"]San Francisco 49ers[/url] (1-5) – If there was any question about why [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5241/"]Tim Rattay[/url] got shipped out of town for almost nothing, Sunday should have answered it. No matter how bad the poundings get, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7177/"]Alex Smith[/url]'s starting spot can never be challenged without a serious alternative to replace him. And no, [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6577/"]Ken Dorsey[/url] is not a serious alternative.


[img]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50c/hou.gif[/img] [b]32.[/b] [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/hou/"]Houston Texans[/url] (0-6) – If I were Houston owner Bob McNair, I would be doing anything to get Charlie Weis to leave Notre Dame right now. The Texans have gotten very little out of first-round pick [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7192/"]Travis Johnson[/url], who has 12 tackles in six games.

[i]Charles Robinson is the national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send him a [url="http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/sports/cgi_robinson"]question or comment[/url] for potential use in a future column or webcast.[/i][/QUOTE]Hey we have to give him some credit he knew some of the names of our players which are not all starters. I think I remember one guy who had our playes names wrong.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Boy, the patriots and Eagles really get alot of respect. I dont think they are as good as they are ranking them. Carolina too, they haven't beaten anyone with a winning record and they are just winning by a few points. I win this week will help us in the respect column.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

hold on. I usually get worked up but really this just means we fall somewhere from 12-26, we could be number 13 so i don't see why this is crazy. There are 6 NFC teams above us and i do think we come in next but are we a garanteed playoff team with the way the east and 3/4 of the south is playing?? Definatly no so if we might not be in the playoffs we shouldn't expect to be in with the top 12 of the league. We have to beat the midgets, e-girls, and bucs these next few weeks to get respect.

We are 4-2, if we win our next 2 games we are on top of the division no matter what else happens. It will be tough and unprobable but we can do it. we have only beaten 1 team that this ranking deemed top 12 but in the next 3 weeks we play 3 more,lets beat them and get our deserved respect

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Actually since KC is "rising" that would put them at #13, leaving the Skins #14 at best, which is really underrating them.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

[QUOTE=FRPLG]This is exactly the problem the Skins have right now. So many of these "experts" just don't have the time to watch every play and know every detail about a team. Their rankings are part fact, part emotion and part bias from previous seasons. This will chnage if we can our next two. These are two of the biggest games we've had in years coming up boys. Make or break type games.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely! The next two games will be tellers. Running up nearly 500 yards against the worst team in football will help you out in the statistics and rankings based upon those statistics. If the Skins can handle the Giants and the Eagles, which I am confident that they can, we will have serious fodder for ranking the skins very highly. But knowing most of these commentators they will say that the Giants or Eagles weren't as good as they thought. If you recall the Skins were downplayed the same way in 91. Everyone made excuses for their undefeated season until they were, oh, 10-0, I seem to remember. Not very many of them gave the Skins good props then and they won't now. Not until they consistently beat teams and force the analysts with their record against good teams. <sarcasm>but their support of the eagles is justified. I mean they have TO. They must be good. And the Giants have the budding demi-god Eli. he's the brother of Peyton for goodness sake! </sarcasm>

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

I read this article this morning and I just thought it confirmed the media bias against the Skins. We've got to go out and beat the crap out of the 49ers before anyone starts giving us any credit, all the talk about the Cowboys-Seattle game being for supremacy in the NFC doesn't take into account that we beat both of those teams! I think most of these guys wrote the Skins, Brunell and Gibbs off at the beginning of the year and are afraid to change course now.

In the end, it doesn't matter. I would like to see Santana Moss get more pub, I'd like to see Brunell get the respect that Bledsoe was getting in Dallas, and I'd like to see all those who said the game has passed Gibbs by come out and make a full retraction. But none of those things help you win football games and at the end of the day I know that we're a better football team than the so-called analysts give us credit for. As long as we keep winning games I don't care if they "rank" us 32nd. I don't want us to be paper champs and I'd rather us get slighted than to lose any of the edge and focus that has brought us this far. Not that Gibbs will allow anyone to become complacent, but I just really how we're playing right now especially considering we've still got room for improvement (red zone scoring, David Patten, and getting Portis free for those big runs we know he is capable of).

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Hey guys im making what i think is my first comment on the board. Lol...kinda funny since i've been coming to this site all the time to get news on the redskins since like the middle of last season. So anyhow...im studying abroad in France for the semester (hence my member name) and since i can't watch the games here...i actually went out and bought a computer tv card before leaving and gave it to my friend to use. Now every sunday he tapes the game onto his hard drive and sends it to me over the net. I like bite my nails all of sunday knowing the redskins are playing...and often times i dont get to watch the games til like tues. which is a torture... But enough about me...

With regard to this thread im a little curious as to why people get so worked up about the media not giving us our due...?? I mean what have we really earned? We are playing well right now (very well may i add) but I mean lets be honest...plenty of teams go out and have a great start to the season (ie. minnesota and the giants last year) and then kinda collapse around this time of year. And from a media standpoint i do think its a little premature to start comparing us to the likes of new england and the eagles... I mean i personally think we can beat them...and i will be rooting like hell for us to win this weekend against NY...but teams like New England and the Eagles have been dominant for soooo long that they have earned the respect from the media.

The redskins on the other hand have been bad for so long that they still need to earn that respect. We won some close games and lost some close games this year...but i have a feeling its really starting to come together on both sides of the ball...and while i dont really care all that much what sports writers write in their weekly power rankings (since they are pretty much just for shits anyway and dont mean anything) i do think that if this week...we can go out and get a tough win on the road...that we will see the redskins jump in the bogus power rankings... My two cents anyway...

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Come on man, it gives us something to talk about. :)

It doesn't bother us (well, at least me) that much. I just like to bitch and moan when there's nothing else to bitch and moan about.

And that SIR, is a good thing. Last year we could bitch and moan about protection, vanilla offense, the game passing Gibbs by, "Drop-It-Like-It's-Hot", and basically anything game related. At least this year we can bitch about us being good and other people not realizing it.

You can bet that we're all basking in the glow that is 4-2 right now.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Winning on the road is where it is at. The Skins have only won one game on the road this year and that was a miracle (Dallas). The media will turn their heads around and report favorable things about the Skins when they win those tough games on the road. Like this week. A win against the Giants will turn some heads, I feel very confident about that. It is really that simple. Win at home (8 wins) and half of your road games (the Skins are 1-2 right now) and you go 12-4. That will take you anywhere, but it is very hard to do. Good quality teams win on the road. Oh, and win in the division. A big test this week which will earn respect if the Skins win.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

Amen and yes. But I still stand by what I said earlier. I have developed the opinion over the years that there is an anti-redskin bias for a lot of commentators.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Come on man, it gives us something to talk about. :)

It doesn't bother us (well, at least me) that much. I just like to bitch and moan when there's nothing else to bitch and moan about.

And that SIR, is a good thing. Last year we could bitch and moan about protection, vanilla offense, the game passing Gibbs by, "Drop-It-Like-It's-Hot", and basically anything game related. At least this year we can bitch about us being good and other people not realizing it.

You can bet that we're all basking in the glow that is 4-2 right now.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more. Hopefully the Skins will continue to allow us to bitch and moan about respect in the media, uniform colors and anything else not related to things on the field.

However, the lack of respect is probably why we only had one guy make the Pro Bowl last season even though we had the number 3 defense. Respect given is why the Eagles had three guys from their secondary make the Pro Bowl, so it does matter some.

Re: Wow, talk about no respect
 

welcome to the board!