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offiss 11-23-2005 03:16 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I alway's liked the kid, but he can be tackled by a blade of grass, perhaps we should have him hold the ball like Tiki maybe that will help his fumbling problems. If he ever stopped fumbling and got stronger in the legs he could be a real find, but he has a long way to go before that happens.

Southpaw 11-23-2005 03:19 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
[QUOTE=Longtimefan]Maybe he does deserve another shot because if he was let go because of the fumbled and dropped passes then he was truly the scape-goat. I seriously doubt Brunell or Portis will be let go, biggest fumblers on the team.[/QUOTE]

Comparing the fumbles of a receiver who gets five to ten touches a game to a starting tailback(20-30 touches) and a quarterback(50-70 touches) is apples and oranges.

And I'm not buying the scapegoat angle, because he was cut after a win. Besides, our god-like coach would never turn a player into a scapegoat. Drops and fumbles = "useless" if you're a wide receiver. Who cares if you're fast and run good routes if you can't hold onto the ball?

skinsguy 11-23-2005 03:41 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I think the only thing that Brown has going for him is speed, and he has very dangerous speed. However, if he can't catch the ball when he's open, then it does nothing to help us. I kind of like what Skins N Canes said about Brown getting cut. I don't believe he was a scapegoat, I believe he was just one in the many that has turned the ball over. Problem is, if we cut everybody that turns the ball over, we wouldn't have an offense.

I'm hoping Brown can show us more this time around. If he can learn to catch, he'd be a great compliment to Moss.

steveo395 11-23-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy]I think the only thing that Brown has going for him is speed, and he has very dangerous speed. However, if he can't catch the ball when he's open, then it does nothing to help us. I kind of like what Skins N Canes said about Brown getting cut. I don't believe he was a scapegoat, I believe he was just one in the many that has turned the ball over. Problem is, if we cut everybody that turns the ball over, we wouldn't have an offense.

I'm hoping Brown can show us more this time around. If he can learn to catch, he'd be a great compliment to Moss.[/QUOTE]
we also had to cut him because that was the game where hall got hurt so we needed a roster spot to sign novak

dmek25 11-23-2005 06:54 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
are we that desperate to have all this talk about some journeyman(at best) receiver

dblanch66 11-23-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
[QUOTE=dmek25]are we that desperate to have all this talk about some journeyman(at best) receiver[/QUOTE]
yes

jdlea 11-23-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I don't know about everyone else, but I think that having a reciever with bad hands would make him pretty much useless. What's the point, when he really got a shot, preseason game #4 and week #1, all he did was drop balls. And then we cut Farris, that never made sense to me. You can't just get by on speed in this league. Plenty of people can burn, all that means is that you can apparently shut down Taylor Jacobs.

Longtimefan 11-23-2005 09:11 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
[QUOTE=Southpaw]Comparing the fumbles of a receiver who gets five to ten touches a game to a starting tailback(20-30 touches) and a quarterback(50-70 touches) is apples and oranges.

And I'm not buying the scapegoat angle, because he was cut after a win. Besides, our god-like coach would never turn a player into a scapegoat. Drops and fumbles = "useless" if you're a wide receiver. Who cares if you're fast and run good routes if you can't hold onto the ball?[/QUOTE]


Fumbles are fumbles, and it matters less who fumbles or what position, or what the circumstances. They cause you to loose games, and that's the bottom line.

SUNRA 11-23-2005 10:15 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I still haven't gotten over Antonio's fumble against the Cowbitches in Texas when we had the game sealed in not for his turnover. So he's been at it for awhile. This time he should be more focused than ever because he understands what's at hand.

BigSKINBauer 11-23-2005 10:31 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I don't understand why we think antonio will fumble over and over, he is a risky player, last year we saw that on that one play in dallas on the punt return, but he can be a great returner and i doubt he will do it again.

During the offseason it was Antonio fever, everyone was gitty over brown, everyone, EVERY coach, and gibbs expecially. Gibbs was extatic to have him, we were fast at WR with patten, moss, brown and jacobs, gibbs was really exited and therefore i was too. In training camp brown showed up by being absolutly awsome, he was the talk of training camp, he was making catches and he was fast. During the scrimmage he was on the field a lot with moss and patten and seriously caught 3 times as many as both of them combined. I was so ready, brown had quickly become one of my favorite players just due to the hype, he was gonna be our secret weapon. he did ok if not well 3/4 preseason games and he had a disasterous game against baltimore in the last preseason game and that eliminated him as a wide receiver and he became only a kick returner for us, what he did best, but he committed the biggest sin of a kick returner, he fumbled, running backs can fumble, WRs can fumble, but not the kick returner. After that as i was walking out the stadium at the bears game i heard numerous times that brown was done and i believed and was ready for it.

Now think he has been sitting at home with no job and he thought it was because of his fumble even though it was a combination of the preseason game and the bears game. He has been sitting there, i can't accept that he will be fumble prone, he can't be, he has had time to fix what he needed to fix, he was fired for fumbling and he won't do it again, he can't

He will come in and return kicks this week, i'll be at the game(hopefully) and the last time i was there was also the last time he played there, i can even see him getting some time at WR in 3 WR sets but i doubt much. He is gonna be important to this team these next comming weeks as we need a kick returner. I for one am happy, i think he will be a breath of fresh air and at this point in our season we need all the help we can find

saden1 11-23-2005 11:51 PM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
Dude fumbled on a return in preseason and couldn't catch a cold. He is what we call a last option in almost all cases. I must say though, everyone deserves a second chance, hopefully he can make something of it.

Luxorreb 11-24-2005 01:23 AM

Re: Welcome back, Antonio
 
I think I'd rather take my chances with Brown than with Jacobs. Brown has showed me more than Jacobs has. Sure Brown fumbled against the Cowboys, but so did Stephen Davis and Ladell Betts. Remember? Portis fumbled twice last Sunday and Brunell has fumbled 8 times in 10 games. Give the guy a second chance. At this point I think he realizes that he must produce or end up carting produce to local grocers. Farris will be full tilt though, so look out for him. As for Parsons, I'd let Brown return til Betts gets healthy.


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