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id rather lavar go there than nfc

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I didn't know we had an english teacher out here. maybe I'll forward some of my programming papers to you to proof. My whining comes from the constant crap I get for voicing an opinion. I could care less if someone disagrees with me, I state my opinions and thats that. I might argue my opinion, sometimes I may call someone out but not all the time like you and some other people. I dont know how many times you have responded attacking my opinions or what I felt is right or wrong. I beg of you to stop, its rediculous[/QUOTE]

Yeah I wouldn't want to hert yer feelings, #56Fenetic.

First, I don't attack you, I attack your opinions when they don't make sense to me (and that's quite often). There is a difference, but you don't seem to see that. You're the one that makes it out to be an actual attack on you.

A discussion board is meant for the expressing of opinions and debating. That includes open criticism of the opinions of others. If you can't get with that you shouldn't be here, man.

It's a general rule, if you come to a message board that is viewable by the entire internet population to post an opinion that will be read by all who come across this site, then your opinion is by definition open to interpretation, support, or criticism by any who wish to respond. The second you put your opinion on the board, you're making it public. And it's the public's right to respond. How you choose to interpret that response is up to you, but apparently you're content to whine about it.

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Taylor Jacobs is a bitch...

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I didn't know we had an english teacher out here. maybe I'll forward some of my programming papers to you to proof. My whining comes from the constant crap I get for voicing an opinion. I could care less if someone disagrees with me, I state my opinions and thats that. I might argue my opinion, sometimes I may call someone out but not all the time like you and some other people. I dont know how many times you have responded attacking my opinions or what I felt is right or wrong. I beg of you to stop, its rediculous[/QUOTE]

Sometimes though you think people are giving you crap when they're not. Case in point:

I think I gave a pretty normal response to your question here, I didn't give you crap:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158211&postcount=146[/url]

You apparently took it the wrong way

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158213&postcount=147[/url]

Matty stepped in

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158215&postcount=148[/url]

And you REALLY took that the wrong way

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158216&postcount=149[/url]

I'm not questioning your loyalty to the Redskins or the value you can bring to our discussions. But you can't take things so personally.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I can't stand this argument, it just makes no sense to me. Do more to make it work? Um, we went to the playoffs with him playing one of the smallest roles on the team in his entire career last year. We needed his cap room more than we needed him, and that's the bottom line. It's not about trying hard to make things work. It's about giving the team the best chance to win.

I don't care what's fair for the individual players, that's not a TEAM mentality.[/QUOTE]

My arguement isn't a football one. It is a business and fan relations one (fan relations is an area where I am extremely down on Skins management).

They sold us this player super hard. Millions of loyal Skins fans drank the #56 Kool Aid. Then they decided to go totally Brokeback Mountain on him, and in turn, us the fans.

The problem isn't that Mommy and Daddy split up, the problem is that it was a really nasty break up with lots of screaming and yelling and everything else short of being featured on an episode of COPS. Now we're all afraid they don't love us any more.

Players move on. We'll get over it. It is just unfortunate that it had to go down this way -- because of things that happened on both sides. It simply didn't need to happen like this.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Yeah I wouldn't want to hert yer feelings, #56Fenetic.

First, I don't attack you, I attack your opinions when they don't make sense to me (and that's quite often). There is a difference, but you don't seem to see that. You're the one that makes it out to be an actual attack on you.

A discussion board is meant for the expressing of opinions and debating. That includes open criticism of the opinions of others. If you can't get with that you shouldn't be here, man.

It's a general rule, if you come to a message board that is viewable by the entire internet population to post an opinion that will be read by all who come across this site, then your opinion is by definition open to interpretation, support, or criticism by any who wish to respond. The second you put your opinion on the board, you're making it public. And it's the public's right to respond. How you choose to interpret that response is up to you, but apparently you're content to whine about it.[/QUOTE]


point taken. I guess I will have to make more sense to you. or should I just agree with what you say to avoid this arguement everytime I post something?

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If we all agreed all the time things would be pretty boring.

The point of a message board is to debate and discuss, and along with that comes disagreements.

Nothing is personal unless you make it that way.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Sometimes though you think people are giving you crap when they're not. Case in point:

I think I gave a pretty normal response to your question here, I didn't give you crap:

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158211&postcount=146"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158211&postcount=146[/url]

You apparently took it the wrong way

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158213&postcount=147"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158213&postcount=147[/url]

Matty stepped in

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158215&postcount=148"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158215&postcount=148[/url]

And you REALLY took that the wrong way

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158216&postcount=149"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158216&postcount=149[/url]

I'm not questioning your loyalty to the Redskins or the value you can bring to our discussions. But you can't take things so personally.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like I was in a bad mood, huh. I think maybe you just caught me in the middle of arguing with some one else and everything got blown up. I dont remember ever going after you, this schneed person seems to be on my ass ALL the time. Matty use to be, its kinda slowed down with him. (probably shouldn't have said that) I think words written(or typed) can be mistaken as hostile. Maybe I tend to take things a little more harsh than the next guy, I'll admit that. But I do get a bit bent out of shape when I post an opinion and someone who doesn't agree basically calls me a dumb ass. there are ways to disagree with someone and some people(not excluding myself) have to learn those ways. I enjoy the posts from people its interesting to see different points of views from people.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]My arguement isn't a football one. It is a business and fan relations one (fan relations is an area where I am extremely down on Skins management).

They sold us this player super hard. Millions of loyal Skins fans drank the #56 Kool Aid. Then they decided to go totally Brokeback Mountain on him, and in turn, us the fans.

The problem isn't that Mommy and Daddy split up, the problem is that it was a really nasty break up with lots of screaming and yelling and everything else short of being featured on an episode of COPS. Now we're all afraid they don't love us any more.

Players move on. We'll get over it. It is just unfortunate that it had to go down this way -- because of things that happened on both sides. It simply didn't need to happen like this.[/QUOTE]

Well said, this is an area where the danny needs to mature & I think he will. Where I will disagree is that Lavar & his agents brought some of this on & that's where we don't know all the details (this link is funny -[url="http://www.pennlive.com/weblogs/pasports/index.ssf?/mtlogs/penn_campbells/archives/2004_03.html"]http://www.pennlive.com/weblogs/pas...es/2004_03.html[/url] - perhaps Lavar really thought danny was trying to curse him!).
But it would do the team well on & off the field to take a less hardball stance on some things. I think Gibbs plays the good cop extra now that he works for the Danny.

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[QUOTE=CRT3]At least if I post somthing such as this I will back up with a link. If you guys want to post things based on your own beliefs that is fine but at least have the common courtsey to post a link. Luxerrob this is direct at you and for you!!!

[url="http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/shared/oh/bigc/stories/0314bigcweb.html"]http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/shared/oh/bigc/stories/0314bigcweb.html[/url][/QUOTE]

LEt him go AFC- I would rather NOT see him twice a year!

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Sometimes though you think people are giving you crap when they're not. Case in point:

I think I gave a pretty normal response to your question here, I didn't give you crap:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158211&postcount=146[/url]

You apparently took it the wrong way

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158213&postcount=147[/url]

Matty stepped in

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158215&postcount=148[/url]

And you REALLY took that the wrong way

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=158216&postcount=149[/url]

I'm not questioning your loyalty to the Redskins or the value you can bring to our discussions. But you can't take things so personally.[/QUOTE]

that was awesome

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]point taken. I guess I will have to make more sense to you. or should I just agree with what you say to avoid this arguement everytime I post something?[/QUOTE]

You're still taking it a bit too personal, #56fanatic. When you write something I don't agree with, I will post my disagreement. I like to debate things, sometimes very fervently. But that doesn't mean I have a problem with your opinions. If you post something and I don't agree, I'm going to say so. But if you want to avoid having this argument in the future, you should just debate the subject at hand without taking my disagreement personally.

Just because I disagree, that doesn't mean I think you're dumb. It just means I think you're wrong. And nobody anointed me god of all things right and wrong. It's just me going point counterpoint, so take that at face value, and not so personally.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]You're still taking it a bit too personal, #56fanatic. When you write something I don't agree with, I will post my disagreement. I like to debate things, sometimes very fervently. But that doesn't mean I have a problem with your opinions. If you post something and I don't agree, I'm going to say so. But if you want to avoid having this argument in the future, you should just debate the subject at hand without taking my disagreement personally.

Just because I disagree, that doesn't mean I think you're dumb. It just means I think you're wrong. And nobody anointed me god of all things right and wrong. It's just me going point counterpoint, so take that at face value, and not so personally.[/QUOTE]

I meant it as a joke.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]My arguement isn't a football one. It is a business and fan relations one (fan relations is an area where I am extremely down on Skins management).

They sold us this player super hard. Millions of loyal Skins fans drank the #56 Kool Aid. Then they decided to go totally Brokeback Mountain on him, and in turn, us the fans.

The problem isn't that Mommy and Daddy split up, the problem is that it was a really nasty break up with lots of screaming and yelling and everything else short of being featured on an episode of COPS. Now we're all afraid they don't love us any more.

Players move on. We'll get over it. It is just unfortunate that it had to go down this way -- because of things that happened on both sides. It simply didn't need to happen like this.[/QUOTE]

OK see I just don't understand that one bit. Fan relations?? Who the frick cares!? The whole reason to be a fan of individual players in the first place is because they play for your TEAM! You would rather hate on management for not trying to make it work, rather than appreciate them for doing what is in the best interests of the team going forward?

You don't try to make things work just for keeping up fan relations. That would be seriously misplacing your priorities. We cut Arrington because his cap room helps the team more than keeping him would. That's management's way of doing what it takes to win more games. That should be the fans' #1 priority, wins. Not relations with a certain player, or the marketability of that player.

I get the feeling that Lavar's release has angered a lot of people solely because they purchased his jersey, and now they feel like their purchase is worthless. And if that's the case, I'd say to those people that they need to get their priorities straight.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I meant it as a joke.[/QUOTE]

OK I missed that. See, I'm definitely not god of right and wrong, I whiffed on that one.

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[img]http://www.skinsfan.us/56_cpayned.jpg[/img]

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All I have to say is ... a LOT of people here need to get laid. Quit getting into pissing matches, smoke a bong, and chill out. Jeeez.

PS - It's funny that the people who are most likely to start trash on the internet are the least likely to start trash in person.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]All I have to say is ... a LOT of people here need to get laid. Quit getting into pissing matches, smoke a bong, and chill out. Jeeez.

PS - It's funny that the people who are most likely to start trash on the internet are the least likely to start trash in person.[/QUOTE]

Those same people are really tough in their cars too

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when i get my license im going to get this phat ass jetta with big ass dubs.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Those same people are really tough in their cars too[/QUOTE]
Seriously. I love it when you see some dude peel out and you look inside the car and it's some anorexic midget with a little-man's complex.

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honda civics baby. i spent 2000 souping up my car and it still doesnt have as much HP as a car i could have bought for 2000.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Seriously. I love it when you see some dude peel out and you look inside the car and it's some anorexic midget with a little-man's complex.[/QUOTE]

watch out for small cops in integras. I got into a pissing match with him and we pulled off the road. I jumped out and he tried to arrest me for failure to yield. he was only 5'5 or something, so he REALLY had that little man complex!

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[QUOTE=cpayne5][img]http://www.skinsfan.us/56_cpayned.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

how ironic that that was post #56

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[QUOTE=cpayne5]Yeah, LA was a good guy and I am kinda sad to see him go too, BUT in no way am I going to hold him in higher regard than the team.[/QUOTE]

C'mon. We all know we're really rooting for the Washington Arringtons, not the Washington Redskins.
:laughing-

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[QUOTE=PWNED]honda civics baby. i spent 2000 souping up my car and it still doesnt have as much HP as a car i could have bought for 2000.[/QUOTE]

no license but you got a car...very nice. lucky dog

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no no im just paraphrasing what i would THINK someone would say that owns a civic. my older brother owns one and he's a tool.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]I guess for a lot of people, it's that time of the month. Who hijacked this thread?[/QUOTE]



That's what happend when we keep talking about LaVar, far too many LaVar threads. The more threads started, the more animated they become. Why can't we just have ONE LaVar thread and stop at that?

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[QUOTE=jermus22]C'mon. We all know we're really rooting for the Washington Arringtons, not the Washington Redskins.
:laughing-[/QUOTE]
Actually, I did have the Virginia Washington Redskins personalized plates with "LAVAR" on them. Seriously.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]how ironic that that was post #56[/QUOTE]

hahahahahahah. ill even give him a break since he ripped off my tag!

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[IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/Birdo90210/WhyDidIComeToThisThread.gif[/IMG]

a Family Guy gif works anywhere

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]My arguement isn't a football one. It is a business and fan relations one (fan relations is an area where I am extremely down on Skins management).

The problem isn't that Mommy and Daddy split up, the problem is that it was a really nasty break up with lots of screaming and yelling and everything else short of being featured on an episode of COPS. Now we're all afraid they don't love us any more.

[/QUOTE]

So is Lavar playing the role of Mommy or Daddy? :laughing2

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]All I have to say is ... a LOT of people here need to get laid. Quit getting into pissing matches, smoke a bong, and chill out. Jeeez.

PS - It's funny that the people who are most likely to start trash on the internet are the least likely to start trash in person.[/QUOTE]



now thats something we all can agree on .

me i don,t go buy jerseys just for that reason. i have a jersey former redskin retired #44 riggo ...it,s the buisness side of football that gets in the way but for me it,s all about the team.

i don,t spend time pissing and moaning myself.
we all agree on one thing we agree to disagree....

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]OK see I just don't understand that one bit. Fan relations?? Who the frick cares!? The whole reason to be a fan of individual players in the first place is because they play for your TEAM! You would rather hate on management for not trying to make it work, rather than appreciate them for doing what is in the best interests of the team going forward?

You don't try to make things work just for keeping up fan relations. That would be seriously misplacing your priorities. We cut Arrington because his cap room helps the team more than keeping him would. That's management's way of doing what it takes to win more games. That should be the fans' #1 priority, wins. Not relations with a certain player, or the marketability of that player.

I get the feeling that Lavar's release has angered a lot of people solely because they purchased his jersey, and now they feel like their purchase is worthless. And if that's the case, I'd say to those people that they need to get their priorities straight.[/QUOTE]

Arrington didn't get cut because of the cap. The cap is merely a benefit of the cut, not a reason for it. Many will argue that he didn't even get cut for football reasons -- the relationship was broken and couldn't be fixed.

I don't own a #56 (#28 & #44 only) and the people I know who are most upset about this don't own any gear at all.

You are talking about a player that people went nuts for when he walked on the field. This is the guy who knocked Clay Aikman into the broadcast booth. This is a guy whose picture is next to the word enthusiasm in the dictionary.

It's like the Sopranos. Sometimes, somebody we all like has to get wacked. It's sad and unfortunate, but sometimes it has to happen and I actually agree it had to happen in this case. But instead of taking him out in the woods, they did him right in front of his family.

But the #56 issue isn't my big problem with Skins management. Most of my heart burn has to do with a whole host of different ways that we as fans are treated like sheep that need to be sheared rather than loyal customers.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]You are talking about a player that people went nuts for when he walked on the field. This is the guy who knocked Clay Aikman into the broadcast booth. This is a guy whos picture is next to the word enthusiasm in the dictionary.[/QUOTE]

Clay Aikman? Troy Aikman and Clay Aiken's love child?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Clay Aikman? Troy Aikman and Clay Aiken's love child?[/QUOTE]

Okay, maybe I crossed the line by merging the names of a couple of guys who badly need to come out of the closet. ;-)

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Okay, maybe I crossed the line by merging the names of a couple of guys who badly need to come out of the closet. ;-)[/QUOTE]

that was funny. I for one have banned Redskin jersey purchases, at least until June or July when camps start back up. I have owned Steven Davis, Champ Bailey and Lavars jerseys and all were suppose to be Redskins for life. I may have to turn to past players , but I think I might give it one more shot with Cooley, maybe Taylor(but he could be in jail) Actually, that may still work out because technically he would still be a Redskin in Jail, right?

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btw, i hear that brunell sucks.

discuss.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]btw, i hear that brunell sucks.

discuss.[/QUOTE]
:lol:

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[QUOTE=PWNED]when i get my license im going to get this phat ass jetta with big ass dubs.[/QUOTE]


Now I have to sell my jetta... (crying...)