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[quote=dgack;203142]There comes a point in some arguments, where one party, having exhausted every attempt at reason, and even employing compromise as a way to reach the other party, realises the second party is simply incapable of logical discourse, and will simply keep repeating their premise, no matter how flawed.

We have now reached that portion of the argument. Thanks for playing, you can go home now, we're done with you.[/quote]you have yet to point out any of his strengths. instead you have insulted Bryant thinking it makes lloyd look better.

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Thanks for playing, please see posts #38 & #39.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/13326-b-lloyd-im-starting-like-guy-4.html#post203142[/url]

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[QUOTE=Rexi;203143]I'm not being a homer. Have I said, THE REDSKINS SUK THE 49ERS R 4 REALZ! No. You guys have a great thing going over there, Randle El and Moss are both good receivers. The Redskins are a lot better than the 49ers are right now. I am just saying that trading for Lloyd was a really bad move. He isn't a physical threat, he won't break tackles or fight for yards. He will just make a circus catch and jump on the ground. Also he runs poor routes and makes too many mental mistakes.[/QUOTE]

I live out here in 9er country and I have to say you are way off base on Lloyd. Only time will tell who is right. As for the trade I think you are way off as well. If you look at the WR's in the draft are NO better and I think will Not be any better down the line. That being said I think Lloyd has a much higher up side this season and seasons to come over any of the Wr's coming out of the 06 draft!

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[quote=dgack;203146]Thanks for playing, please see posts #38 & #39.

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/13326-b-lloyd-im-starting-like-guy-4.html#post203142[/URL][/quote]Alright ignore me. The fact is that i have actually made points, you have not.

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[quote=RedskinPete;203148]I live out here in 9er country and I have to say you are way off base on Lloyd. Only time will tell who is right. As for the trade I think you are way off as well. If you look at the WR's in the draft are NO better and I think will Not be any better down the line. That being said I think Lloyd has a much higher up side this season and seasons to come over any of the Wr's coming out of the 06 draft![/quote]Lol most wide receivers in the 1st 5 rounds are better than Lloyd. I highly doubt that he has a better career than every WR in this years draft. That would make this the worst class of all time.

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Don't feed the troll, Pete.

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[QUOTE=Rexi;203151]Lol most wide receivers in the 1st 5 rounds are better than Lloyd. I highly doubt that he has a better career than every WR in this years draft. That would make this the worst class of all time.[/QUOTE]

Well I can see why your 9ers are so bad with that view. Like I said time will tell who is right. I just believe my view is more right then yours!

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[QUOTE=dgack;203152]Don't feed the troll, Pete.[/QUOTE]

Trolls need to eat too!

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I see no one saw the gif i posted a couple pages back

[IMG]http://forum.ninercaphell.com/images/smilies/lloydduck.gif[/IMG]

How can anyone defend a player who ducks over the middle? So far i havent heard anyone defending him only bashes of the niners...

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Yes because that's the only play ever of his entire NFL career. Just because no one responded it doesn't mean no one saw it.

Can someone please hijack this thread so I stop responding

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So anyways i'm eating this butter pecan ice cream right now and it's really good.

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[QUOTE=Rexi;203159]I see no one saw the gif i poted a couple pages back

[IMG]http://forum.ninercaphell.com/images/smilies/lloydduck.gif[/IMG]

How can anyone defend a player who ducks over the middle? So far i havent anyone defending him only bashes of the niners...[/QUOTE]

Your point? I can show you a ton plays of your star QB Smith getting his ass kicked last season. But that dosen't make him a bust! Maybe bad coaching???? A bad owner???? Or just a bad team????? What I have seen of him he has been nice to good here. What happen in SF must be staying in SF.

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[quote=TAFKAS;203163]Yes because that's the only play ever of his entire NFL career. Just because no one responded it doesn't mean no one saw it.

Can someone please hijack this thread so I stop responding[/quote]there is also the video where he jumps on the ground vs. the cards and the TD pass he alligator armed in the Giants game. But why would any receiver duck unless he was scared, i mean at least make an effort to catch the ball, even if he dropped it. some sort of effort.

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Think about it like this: How many of us would be logging on to a Packers forum to badmouth 50/50 if he made the roster and had caught a nice one-handed grab in traffic for a decent gain?

Probably about zero, because we're more interested in talking positives about our team than trying to win an argument fueled by insane hatred for a player whom we didn't care for on what was, is, and has been for quite some time, quite frankly, a piss-poor football team.

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[QUOTE=RedskinPete;203166]Your point? I can show you a ton plays of your star QB Smith getting his ass kicked last season. But that dosen't make him a bust! [/QUOTE]

Right, it's the 2006 season that will make him a bust.

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[QUOTE=mooby;203164]So anyways i'm eating this butter pecan ice cream right now and it's really good.[/QUOTE]

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

I've been good, not eating much ice cream this summer. But yesterday I caved and bought some chocolate ice cream. And some root beer. Had me a nice big root beer float yesterday afternoon. Really hit the spot.

I'm not a huge fan of pecans though

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[QUOTE=dgack;203170]Think about it like this Schneed: How many of us would be logging on to a Packers forum to badmouth 50/50 if he made the roster and had caught a nice one-handed grab in traffic for a decent gain?

Probably about zero, because we're more interested in talking positives about our team than trying to win an argument fueled by insane hatred for a player whom we didn't care for on what was, is, and has been for quite some time, quite frankly, a piss-poor football team.[/QUOTE]

Schneed?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;203172]Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

I've been good, not eating much ice cream this summer. But yesterday I caved and bought some chocolate ice cream. And some root beer. Had me a nice big root beer float yesterday afternoon. Really hit the spot.

I'm not a huge fan of pecans though[/QUOTE]

Not a fan of nuts? Well, you know Lloyd is... he's a real nut lover.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;203174]Schneed?[/QUOTE]

It's late, I forgot who I was responding to.

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[quote=RedskinPete;203166]Your point? I can show you a ton plays of your star QB Smith getting his ass kicked last season. But that dosen't make him a bust! Maybe bad coaching???? A bad owner???? Or just a bad team????? What I have seen of him he has been nice to good here. What happen in SF must be staying in SF.[/quote]
More bashing of the niners. That is not the same as actually defending Lloyd. Also a rookie QB performing badly is totally different than a veteran WR ducking a ball thrown his way. Bad coaching, bad owner and a bad team does not excuse ducking or shortarming passes. the guy has no courage or heart. He was simply the best option of a talent depleted WR core last year. All he has are crazy catches, no juking CB's, breaking tackles or making blocks.

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[QUOTE=dgack;203176]Not a fan of nuts? Well, you know Lloyd is... he's a real nut lover.[/QUOTE]

Well that doesn't help with hijacking the thread if you bring Lloyd back up

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[quote=TAFKAS;203172]Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

I've been good, not eating much ice cream this summer. But yesterday I caved and bought some chocolate ice cream. And some root beer. Had me a nice big root beer float yesterday afternoon. Really hit the spot.

I'm not a huge fan of pecans though[/quote]


Chocolate ice cream is the best. Root beer with it makes for an especially good time. Yesterday when i was at the mall me and my friends went into a store that sells all kinds of chocolates, and i tried a sample of this piece of chocolate that had coconut in the middle, it was delicious.

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Come on guys lets keep this respectful and respectable.

Rexi, I dont agree with your assessment of his talent. Lloyd is a talented player. Thats why the niners drafted him.

Redskins Homers, No one here should deny that Lloyd has some character issues. he could become a cancer.

But, i think a change in scenery and a fresh start will help lloyd.

I think alot of his character flaws were compounded by an organization in termoil.

One thing to consider is how would any top notch WR act if they played in SF last year?
Could you imagine chad johnson playing with cody pickett?
What about TO or Steve smith?

I think the fresh start, potential to make lots of money and not having to be the #1 WR will help Lloyd be a better teammate and player.

all we can do is wait and see

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it's hard to hijack a thread where everyone keeps bringing up the original subject. :(

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I hear ya Mooby. Poor GTripp wants to post in this thread but he's so sad that people won't let you hijack this thread that he's just sitting on his couch with a blanket draped over him and digging his spoon into a pint of cookie dough ice cream.

Ice cream baby! What!

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Sorry guys, but I am going to have to invoke my thread marshall powers to thwart the hijacking.

Rexi,

I have no particular beef with you, the 49ers, or your opinions. I reserve judgment on Lloyd. I think, however, your use of that one video clip of Lloyd is a poor and misleading one. To me, it appears that Lloyd is ducking because the ball was so poorly thrown that he thought it was intended for a different receiver.

Also, Lloyd was in fact your #1 wideout last season. So, if he was a total piece of trash, locker room cancer, worthless wideout, what does that say about the 49ers organization and wide receiving corps? To me it says that the 49ers coaching staff was really dumb for putting garbage in the #1 wideout spot, or you are being a little biased in your opinion.

By the way, Lloyd didn't slow down to make a highlight catch as you so claimed. The ball was slightly overthrown and he had to jump/dive to catch it.

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[quote=TAFKAS;203187]I hear ya Mooby. Poor GTripp wants to post in this thread but he's so sad that people won't let you hijack this thread that he's just sitting on his couch with a blanket draped over him and digging his spoon into a pint of cookie dough ice cream.

Ice cream baby! What![/quote]

What! What! lol. I love that cookie dough ice cream from ben and jerry's.

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[quote=jamf;203182]Come on guys lets keep this respectful and respectable.

Rexi, I dont agree with your assessment of his talent. Lloyd is a talented player. Thats why the niners drafted him.

Redskins Homers, No one here should deny that Lloyd has some character issues. he could become a cancer.

But, i think a change in scenery and a fresh start will help lloyd.

I think alot of his character flaws were compounded by an organization in termoil.

One thing to consider is how would any top notch WR act if they played in SF last year?
Could you imagine chad johnson playing with cody pickett?
What about TO or Steve smith?

I think the fresh start, potential to make lots of money and not having to be the #1 WR will help Lloyd be a better teammate and player.

all we can do is wait and see[/quote]Did Andre Johnson bad mouth the Texans last year? The niner regime that drafted him was a very poor judge of talent, resulting in us winning 6 games in 2 years. Chad Johnson has played on some poor Bengal teams so I doubt he would have been a problem, same with Smith. TO would have ripped us in the media, although he did that with a team coming off of a SB loss. Lloyd will have had to change his attitude completely and work very hard to become a respectable WR. I see no evidence this has happened i just see the same old one-trick pony we had last year.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;203188]Sorry guys, but I am going to have to invoke my thread marshall powers to thwart the hijacking.

Rexi,

I have no particular beef with you, the 49ers, or your opinions. I reserve judgment on Lloyd. I think, however, your use of that one video clip of Lloyd is a poor and misleading one. To me, it appears that Lloyd is ducking because the ball was so poorly thrown that he thought it was intended for a different receiver.

Also, Lloyd was in fact your #1 wideout last season. So, if he was a total piece of trash, locker room cancer, worthless wideout, what does that say about the 49ers organization and wide receiving corps? To me it says that the 49ers coaching staff was really dumb for putting garbage in the #1 wideout spot, or you are being a little biased in your opinion.

By the way, Lloyd didn't slow down to make a highlight catch as you so claimed. The ball was slightly overthrown and he had to jump/dive to catch it.[/QUOTE]

I'll have to invoke my thread generalisimo powers and reinstate the hijacking

Seriously though, all good points SGG. But it's been in one ear and out the other with him. So we're just going in circles.

He's happy Lloyd is not a Niner. We're happy he's not a Niner either. So we're all happy.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;203180]Well that doesn't help with hijacking the thread if you bring Lloyd back up[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I was trying to strike pre-emptively. Zig when they thought I was about to zag, you know...

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;203196]I'll have to invoke my thread generalisimo powers and reinstate the hijacking

Seriously though, all good points SGG. But it's been in one ear and out the other with him. So we're just going in circles.

He's happy Lloyd is not a Niner. We're happy he's not a Niner either. So we're all happy.[/QUOTE]

It's one happy World!!!! Except in the middle east and many other places.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;203188]Sorry guys, but I am going to have to invoke my thread marshall powers to thwart the hijacking.

Rexi,

I have no particular beef with you, the 49ers, or your opinions. I reserve judgment on Lloyd. I think, however, your use of that one video clip of Lloyd is a poor and misleading one. To me, it appears that Lloyd is ducking because the ball was so poorly thrown that he thought it was intended for a different receiver.[/quote] so Lloyd made no attempt what-so-ever to catch a ball that was going to hit him in the head? Most WR's mouths water to get their hands on the ball. Also if he thought there was a WR behind than he didnt know the playbook well did he?
[quote]
Also, Lloyd was in fact your #1 wideout last season. So, if he was a total piece of trash, locker room cancer, worthless wideout, what does that say about the 49ers organization and wide receiving corps? To me it says that the 49ers coaching staff was really dumb for putting garbage in the #1 wideout spot, or you are being a little biased in your opinion.[/quote]The sad fact is Lloyd was the 2nd best WR we had last year. We were that bad. Our best WR, Arnaz Battle, hurt his knee 1 1/2 games into the season and it bothered him throughout the year

[quote] By the way, Lloyd didn't slow down to make a highlight catch as you so claimed. The ball was slightly overthrown and he had to jump/dive to catch it.[/quote]It can look that way, but he did slow down and had no interest in the YAC, just getting a SC highlight.

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Rexi...do you have an uncle named Huddle?

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New thread started for Rexi: [url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/13608-b-lloyd-im-starting-despise-worthless.html[/url]

Please go there now, it's your very own thread... isn't that exciting?

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[quote=dgack;203205]New thread started for Rexi: [URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/13608-b-lloyd-im-starting-despise-worthless.html[/URL]

Please go there now, it's your very own thread... isn't that exciting?[/quote]sweet! thanks dgack.

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Man, you know what kind of ice cream i love, but i haven't had in a while. Chocolate fudge brownie, or w/e it's called from Edy's.

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I had this one ice cream from some place in Annapolis once. Blueberry royal, man that was good.

Mooby, what kind of chocolate do you like best-dark, white, or milk? For me it's dark all the way, milk is ok, and white just sucks

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For me it's Darkerian

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[QUOTE=Rexi;203201]so Lloyd made no attempt what-so-ever to catch a ball that was going to hit him in the head? Most WR's mouths water to get their hands on the ball. Also if he thought there was a WR behind than he didnt know the playbook well did he?

The sad fact is Lloyd was the 2nd best WR we had last year. We were that bad. Our best WR, Arnaz Battle, hurt his knee 1 1/2 games into the season and it bothered him throughout the year

It can look that way, but he did slow down and had no interest in the YAC, just getting a SC highlight.[/QUOTE]

As to your first point, I'm not sure what you are getting at. Why do you think Lloyd ducked his head?

Your second point is somewhat reasonable. At least you admit that your receiving corps was bad last year. Who, besides Bryant, have the 49ers added at wideout?

I still strongly disagree with your last point. Are you really saying that Brandon Lloyd intentionally slowed down to make a leaping catch at the expense of running one in for a touchdown? You really can't be serious.

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[quote=TAFKAS;203212]I had this one ice cream from some place in Annapolis once. Blueberry royal, man that was good.

Mooby, what kind of chocolate do you like best-dark, white, or milk? For me it's dark all the way, milk is ok, and white just sucks[/quote]

There's this Ben and Jerry's in old town alexandria that makes the best ice cream.

Anyways, for me, I like milk chocolate the most, dark chocolate is acceptable, and i hate white chocolate pretty much too.