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MTK 10-06-2006 10:29 AM

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[quote=Rock Your Face;224857]My favorite part of the whole interview was the beginning when he says he though about it for 2 seconds and decided not to comment about Springs' and Lindsay's comments, and then runs his mouth about it for a rather lengthy amount of time. It's funny how that always seems to happen in his interviews, Lavar will say he's not going to talk about the 'Skins, and then as the interview/press conference goes on, he gets more and more worked up about it. I could not agree more with the previous post about Gibbs stealing Lavar's thunder as the face of the franchise. Even with that, however, Lavar could have bought into the system and been a good productive player under Gibbs/Williams, and still been hugely popular here, instead he decided to pout when things did not go his way, and you saw the real Lavar.[/quote]

I thought the same thing. I don't want to get into it, but let me go on for 10 minutes. Hypocrite.

Lindsey wanted to get in his head, and it worked. Let's hope we see LaVar over-running plays all day on Sunday because he's so jacked up.

You've got to think that the Skins will be looking to attack his side early and often.

That Guy 10-06-2006 11:11 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;224869]I thought the same thing. I don't want to get into it, but let me go on for 10 minutes. Hypocrite.

Lindsey wanted to get in his head, and it worked. Let's hope we see LaVar over-running plays all day on Sunday because he's so jacked up.

You've got to think that the Skins will be looking to attack his side early and often.[/quote]

the other side may have a rookie making his first start (gerris wilkinson) since emmons is hurt. there's only 3 players on that defense right now.

dmek25 10-06-2006 11:16 AM

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their back 7 is the giants problem, their run defense has been OK so far. but they are still not getting to the quarterback

illdefined 10-06-2006 12:01 PM

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seeing that interview really makes me feel bad for LaVar, he truly loved the hell out of this team, and he was really hurt about how things went down.

Sucks that his limitations, physical or otherwise, got in the way but those were the cause. I think the Redskins may have been at fault in interpreting that as lack of effort, but regardless, those limitations were there and that's why he didn't get to start for Williams. Kind of a sad story, and i wish LaVar could've overcome those limits - i know the Redskins definitely gave him the chances to.

i'll still always appreciate the effort, energy and genuine affection he gave this team and the community during the nightmare of coach merry-go-round we went through before Gibbs. He would absolutely stalk that field for his prey and would amp up the whole team, he was certainly the brightest spot of our team all those years. I will always respect him for that.

i think those comments weren't too nasty considering. think he spoke them out of valid emotions he's entitled to carry. (think about it, what Lindsay and Springs said were actual attacks - and they weren't even here when the team had OBC for a coach). he also tried hard to stay here, unlike Champ.

that said, i'm actually worried about that playbook, now Williams has to deal with that fact and the sorry secondary we have. i hope Mike Sellers has his best game ever knocking out LA and AP on their asses for CP.

illdefined 10-06-2006 12:03 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;224869]I thought the same thing. I don't want to get into it, but let me go on for 10 minutes. Hypocrite.[/QUOTE]

aw c'mon. everyone knows Lavar is an emotional guy, it's why everyone here liked him. it was too easy for those reporters to egg it out of him.

RiggoRules 10-06-2006 12:10 PM

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One of the interesting aspects of the story is the issue of the Redskins playbook that Lavar now refers to as "Arrington property now. New York Giants property now."

Not certain, but I thought that walking with a playbook when you left a team was a big legal issue.

SmootSmack 10-06-2006 12:26 PM

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I think someone else alluded to it. But I believe what really upset LaVar is that the team didn't bend over backwards for him, establish a different set of rules just for him. Almost all pro athletes spend their entire lives getting everything their way because they are the best each step of the way. But when they get to the pro level, they have to realize the majority of them are no longer unique. That they're just one of a whole team worth of "best players" and suddenly they have to go by the rules of the team, not their own. Some have trouble accepting this, I think LA is one of those guys.

DaveyFoSho 10-06-2006 12:50 PM

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What i dont understand is.....In college kickers had to practice kicking over ladders in order to account for LaVar...why couldnt he block more kicks????? He is a great athlete and i was a little sad to see him go. Bottom line is he just cannot cut it in complex systems where everyone has a lane and a job to do. 1st play of the game will be a misdirection and LaVar will be all the way over in no man's land!

RedskinRat 10-06-2006 12:54 PM

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Anyone listening to The Larry Miachaels Show?

It's getting a little too 'LaVar' for my liking.

LaVar will be out of his mind on Sunday and we'll take advantage of it early and often.

Manusky91 10-06-2006 01:00 PM

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[quote=RiggoRules;224959]One of the interesting aspects of the story is the issue of the Redskins playbook that Lavar now refers to as "Arrington property now. New York Giants property now."

Not certain, but I thought that walking with a playbook when you left a team was a big legal issue.[/quote]

I agree, the playbook comment worries me more than anything he's going to do on the field. That could be a real problem if they truly have our defensive playbook.

MTK 10-06-2006 01:02 PM

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It really doesn't matter if he has a playbook or not.

Any team can look at film and see what other teams do.

It's the [U]game plan[/U] that matters.

redsk1 10-06-2006 01:04 PM

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It's no secret LA and Dale Lindsey didn't get along. I don't think Lindsey planned to make those comments, I think they just came out. That's the story here. Remember the conspiracy theories floating around why LA wasn't playing. The moment of truth came out and that truth was that LA didn't know the system-couldn't play in the system-didn't spend the time to learn the system.

What really took me by suprise was a player whom is respected, Springs, said the same thing.

I'm sure these comments kind of stung. I defended LA while he was here and really didn't want to believe someone w/ his potential and athletic ability couldn't fit in this defense. It's kind of sad actually. Wish it would have turned out differently, but the nfl is a business in the end.

RiggoRules 10-06-2006 01:04 PM

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[quote=Manusky91;224991]I agree, the playbook comment worries me more than anything he's going to do on the field. That could be a real problem if they truly have our defensive playbook.[/quote]

I don't think it is that big of an issue on game day. It is a huge document. It is like getting Chef Gordon Ramsey's cook book. Having it doesn't tell you what he is going to do in his resturaunt that day or how you can prepare something exactly like he does.

I think it is more of a principal thing.

ArtMonkDrillz 10-06-2006 01:57 PM

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules;224995]I don't think it is that big of an issue on game day. It is a huge document. It is like getting Chef Gordon Ramsey's cook book. Having it doesn't tell you what he is going to do in his resturaunt that day or how you can prepare something exactly like he does.

I think it is more of a principal thing.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like someone has been getting caught up on old episodes of Hell's Kitchen on their TiVo.

Like Matty said, the game plan is more important. Plus, we all know that we haven't been blitzing the same with Springs out, so it's probably a bit different this year than it was when LA was here.

Longtimefan 10-06-2006 02:20 PM

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules;224959]One of the interesting aspects of the story is the issue of the Redskins playbook that Lavar now refers to as "Arrington property now. New York Giants property now."

Not certain, but I thought that walking with a playbook when you left a team was a big legal issue.[/QUOTE]



It is a team rule that when you go out, the playbook goes in. There's no way he has the teams playbook to give to the Giants, even if it were true, he'd be a fool to admit it. I don't believe one word of it, it's just LaVar being LaVar running off at the mouth again. What he needs to be concerned with (since he's going to try and play defense) is the offense's playbook. You know, even a fish would avoid being caught if he kept his mouth shut, and for some reason this is something LaVar has never learned to do.

illdefined 10-06-2006 02:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;224993]It really doesn't matter if he has a playbook or not.

Any team can look at film and see what other teams do.

It's the [U]game plan[/U] that matters.[/QUOTE]


yeah but having Gregg William's crazy zones all convienently diagrammed up would be a boon for ANYbody.

what worries me more is deciphering the calls. on offense or defense, they'll be able to read the hand signals and adjust.

remember the 36-0 whipping? i think the week BEFORE they had just finished getting a Redskin (Pierce, Hasselbeck or Morton) and got all the fresh calls.

MTK 10-06-2006 02:40 PM

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The playbook thing is a non-issue. It all comes down to execution. The 36-0 loss they hung on us last year had more to do with them riding an emotional high that we couldn't match than having a few ex-Redskins on their roster. It sure didn't help them in the December rematch.

Redskins8588 10-06-2006 03:11 PM

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Even still what hand signals will LaVar know for our offense? I mean even though Saunders and Gibbs offense are very similar, I highly doubt that they use the same hand signals and audibles and what not...

Also, dont think that for a minute that our guys have forgot about the 36-0 embarrassment of a game that was last year. So I expect our guys to be just as pumped as to not let that happen again...

dmek25 10-06-2006 03:13 PM

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execution, exexcution, and execution. and besides, what the hell was morton going to show them? he barely grazed the field while he was here. you can know whats coming, but if we execute, the play will still work

Redskins8588 10-06-2006 03:16 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;225055]execution, exexcution, and execution. and besides, what the hell was morton going to show them? he barely grazed the field while he was here. you can know whats coming, but if we execute, the play will still work[/QUOTE]
I have to agree, it really all comes down to execution, I mean look at the cheifs last year, everyone and their brother knew that KC was going to run the ball, and yet LJ still got crazy stats!!!

RedskinRat 10-06-2006 03:25 PM

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I want them to wear 'The Duke's' name off the ball by ramming it down their throats. That 36-0 was tough to watch, I want payback in the form of a dominating display.

Some blood would be kinda nice too.

illdefined 10-06-2006 03:36 PM

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yeah, i mean Williams can change the signals within a couple of weeks, but i remember on the 36-0 game, the defection was really fresh.

regardless you're right. it's best when we can clearly have two tight ends on one side, go that way, and still trample them all over the field.

dall-assblows 10-06-2006 03:42 PM

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[quote=Giantone;224668]:food-smil I guess we have to wait and see.[/quote]

didn't you say that lavar sucks in a pervious thread and that we should take him back?

firstdown 10-06-2006 03:55 PM

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I have not read all post but isn't a play book the property of the team and is it common for a player to still have theirs?

MTK 10-06-2006 04:05 PM

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[quote=firstdown;225077]I have not read all post but isn't a play book the property of the team and is it common for a player to still have theirs?[/quote]

Yes it's property of the team and no the player shouldn't have it.

He either stole his or copied it.

The most likely answer is he's bullshitting.

Mc2guy 10-06-2006 04:29 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;225080]Yes it's property of the team and no the player shouldn't have it.

The most likely answer is he's bullshitting.[/quote]

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner. There's no way LA has an actual copy of the playbook. They are numbered and the teams know when they don't get a copy back. The club would have been all over this months ago if he actually had a copy.

dblanch66 10-06-2006 09:15 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;224668]:food-smil I guess we have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Yes we will.

Crat92 10-06-2006 09:30 PM

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Hail from Nashville, Tn.! Fact is, LA was a Freakin' bust! He was undisciplined and out of control. Even Marvin Lewis said it. Run A reverse @ him, you'll get 25 yards! Glad He's GONE!!!

dall-assblows 10-06-2006 09:35 PM

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I just heard john thompson on sports talk 980 (for thoughs of you that live in the greater DC area) talking with arrington. they were asking questions and one of the questions was did you really keep your playbook and LA said No, but he said he knows a couple things though.

i'm not really sure what to believe at this point, but i still think LA is a douchebag


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