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[QUOTE=That Guy;252561]the cap was tight, and there was no way we could let santana play on his old contract - he held out until it was fixed, AND if we had made him play, his current contract would be insane compared to the one he was given at the time.

as far as your point on trading down - it doesn't necessarily increase your draft potential at all. trading down and bypassing merriman, for example, would have been a horrible move. and we definitely have a huge need at DE, if nothing else (though depth and defensive age are big issues as well - marshall will be 31, washington 29, springs and the DL getting past 30, etc).

if we pass on gaines, but end up with grubbs + okoye or something, then there's a decent trade off, but if we trade down and miss a 10 time pro bowler for 2 average starters (which are easy to find), that'd be a huge mistake.[/QUOTE]

Right, to reiterate my point, I don't believe you trade down to take someone; you trade down because you don't have an impending need to take someone where you are at and someone else values the pick more than you do.

If Merriman was available and the front office has accurately estimated his value, then I believe they would not have traded down but drafted him. On the other hand, if a guy like Merriman wasn't available and someone were to approach them with an additional 2nd or 3rd - to move down a few spots, then I would punch it in.

I guess I'm saying I'd like to see more trades like the one where we swindled Ditka some years back out of his entire draft and still got Bailey, and less trades like giving away an additional 2nd rounder to take McIntosh, or the Duckett and Stokley trades.

I do however, support the trading of additional material to get JC!

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[QUOTE=drew54;252759]Another thing, when looking at the cap sheets, are the release fees for 2006 if we cut them right now. Meaning that the release fees for 2007 will be what we are charged if we release someone after the season?[/QUOTE]

Yes the 2006 release fees are if we cut them right now. As for cutting guys after the season, the 2007 release fee would apply.

If we cut them post June 1, 2007, the deadcap charge for 2008 would be the 2008 release fee, while the deadcap charge for 2007 would be the 2007 release fee minus the 2008 release fee.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;252233]I don't even want to write Archuleta off yet, he was brought in for a reason, and if Gregg Williams gets the defense to start pressuring the QB, why couldn't he play the safety opposite Taylor?[/QUOTE]


My main frustration with the signing of AA is that I cannot understand how we could have been so wrong about him. There is a human side to the game as well as $'s and physical ability. Much was expected of AA because of his contract which I believe he was overwhelmed by, coupled with moving to a different team after playing his entire career in St. Louis. I would hold serve on AA, and allow him the opportunity to regain his confidence, and try to find a place for him is some capacity on the defense. His contract is not favorable for release, so I would like to see him have the opportunity to gather himself before I make the determination that he's completely useless. It could be that he would consider reworking his contract and remaining with the team, unless he feels he dosen't want to be further humiliated.

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[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;252827]Yes the 2006 release fees are if we cut them right now. As for cutting guys after the season, the 2007 release fee would apply.

If we cut them post June 1, 2007, the deadcap charge for 2008 would be the 2008 release fee, while the deadcap charge for 2007 would be the 2007 release fee minus the 2008 release fee.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for info.

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One thing I noticed when looking at the Salary Cap numbers ([url=http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html]Scout.com: Redskins Salary Cap Chart[/url]) is some contracts really take upswings next year.

Portis, Griffin, and Washington all over double. I hope we don't wind up loosing one of them in a contract dispute. I am not as harsh on the FO as others, but I will say they have not handled resigning their own players very well. In this case we might need to renegotiate and it will take some tact not to turn into a team/player confrontation.

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the one point on your list that has me baffled is getting rid of quality coaches. this might be a transitional year for the coaching staff, but after getting settled in, and learning their place around here, why get rid of some of them? is there any you think cant coach?

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The talk about the skins losing Pierce is a bit overstated. I remember Gibbs saying the deal they offered him was about the same. The guy wanted to go.

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The deal wasn't the same, the Giants offered Pierce more up front money which was the deal killer.

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[QUOTE=Jason72;253007]One thing I noticed when looking at the Salary Cap numbers ([url=http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html]Scout.com: Redskins Salary Cap Chart[/url]) is some contracts really take upswings next year.[/QUOTE]

How can a Warpath member discuss the salary cap and link to SOMEONE ELSE'S cap sheets?????????????? Is this another April Fools joke from Tafkas??? Oh the shame and humiliation, I'm not sure I can go on...

Seriously though, the link you gave is for PCinOZ's cap sheets. He provides the sheets for Scout.com and has the most reliable info anywhere. But the link you gave is an old one (March 28th). The new link for PCinOZ's cap sheets is [url=http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20Pages%20Summary.html]PC's Redskins Salaries and Contracts Pages[/url].

But why go elsewhere when all your cap dreams can come true right here:
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/url]

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;253341]How can a Warpath member discuss the salary cap and link to SOMEONE ELSE'S cap sheets?????????????? Is this another April Fools joke from Tafkas??? Oh the shame and humiliation, I'm not sure I can go on...

Seriously though, the link you gave is for PCinOZ's cap sheets. He provides the sheets for Scout.com and has the most reliable info anywhere. But the link you gave is an old one (March 28th). The new link for PCinOZ's cap sheets is [URL="http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20Pages%20Summary.html"]PC's Redskins Salaries and Contracts Pages[/URL].

But why go elsewhere when all your cap dreams can come true right here:
[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/URL][/quote]

It's just not right CC. All your hard work and people aren't even looking at your sheets.

Seriously peeps, we've got great cap info right here.

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I read it, good stuff, very slick. I can't believe more people haven't read or commented on it. I guess folks have a tough time with numbers I guess you have to spell things out for them so the appreciate the significance of the figures.

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[quote=Citizens for 81;253107]The talk about the skins losing Pierce is a bit overstated. I remember Gibbs saying the deal they offered him was about the same. The guy wanted to go.[/quote]

the skins tried to haggle him and offered him about $1mill less, so he got pissed they were trying to cheap out on him after overpaying so many others from outside the orginization and left (quite bitter).

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Pierce shouldn't have gone all season saying he was a "Redskin for life" or whatever it was he said exactly. Good luck to him though

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[quote=dmek25;253009]the one point on your list that has me baffled is getting rid of quality coaches. this might be a transitional year for the coaching staff, but after getting settled in, and learning their place around here, why get rid of some of them? is there any you think cant coach?[/quote]


do you want to keep jackson when he's pouting and refusing to coach his players, while insisting on seperate safety meetings? dead weight is worse than an empty seat in some cases. and what exactly does don breaux do? gibbs has soo many people working under him now and he delegated way too much, which caused some of our current problems.

If you read up on some areas of microsoft and the release of vista, you'll see lots of examples of the problems that overstaffing can bring (instead of needing 2 people to agree on a layout, now there are 17 people that must agree, hold meetings to agree on those agreements and field questions and objections to possible interpretations). at some point bureaucracy swallows efficiency.

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[quote=TAFKAS;253415]Pierce shouldn't have gone all season saying he was a "Redskin for life" or whatever it was he said exactly. Good luck to him though[/quote]

I'm still bitter about Pierce. Of course you (TAFKAS) would know better than any of us, but I thought he could have given the skins a more realistic chance of re-signing him.

He was undrafted, the organization gave him the opportunity to blossom, he had a great season (and at that time who knows if he was a one year wonder or not), and then he expects the skins to break the bank on him. Then after he signs with the Giants he talks garbage about the team that gave him his first opprotunity.

He just seems like an ungrateful prick to me.

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[QUOTE=Citizens for 81;253424]I'm still bitter about Pierce. Of course you (TAFKAS) would know better than any of us, but I thought he could have given the skins a more realistic chance of re-signing him.

He was undrafted, the organization gave him the opportunity to blossom, he had a great season (and at that time who knows if he was a one year wonder or not), and then he expects the skins to break the bank on him. Then after he signs with the Giants he talks garbage about the team that gave him his first opprotunity.

He just seems like an ungrateful prick to me.[/QUOTE]

I don't really know much about what happened with Pierce.

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[QUOTE=Big C;252223]i would be pleased with that, but id also like to see what briggs and fletcher are going for. fletcher is an absolute beast, and knows the williams system i believe, both were together in buffalo[/QUOTE]

if that's the case, he won't want to come here!

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[quote=Citizens for 81;253424]I'm still bitter about Pierce. Of course you (TAFKAS) would know better than any of us, but I thought he could have given the skins a more realistic chance of re-signing him.

He was undrafted, the organization gave him the opportunity to blossom, he had a great season (and at that time who knows if he was a one year wonder or not), and then he expects the skins to break the bank on him. Then after he signs with the Giants he talks garbage about the team that gave him his first opprotunity.

He just seems like an ungrateful prick to me.[/quote]

in his eyes, he came in when the team had no other options, he gave a pro-bowl performance after waiting his turn on the bench, and as soon as someone offered him a contract, his team and his "family" that called him a "core redskin" spat in his face by low-balling him and telling him he wasn't worth it, and that he was easily re-placeable. he didn't have to give the skins the option to match that deal, but he said he would and he kept his word. You can't really be mad at the player for taking the better offer.

and i don't really like his constant s&*$ talk either, but he wouldn't be talking like that if he didn't care or didn't want to be here.

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[quote=That Guy;253416]do you want to keep jackson when he's pouting and refusing to coach his players, while insisting on seperate safety meetings? dead weight is worse than an empty seat in some cases. and what exactly does don breaux do? gibbs has soo many people working under him now and he delegated way too much, which caused some of our current problems.

If you read up on some areas of microsoft and the release of vista, you'll see lots of examples of the problems that overstaffing can bring (instead of needing 2 people to agree on a layout, now there are 17 people that must agree, hold meetings to agree on those agreements and field questions and objections to possible interpretations). at some point bureaucracy swallows efficiency.[/quote]
i agree with what you are saying, but with coach gibbs, there had to be a method behind his madness