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Redskins_P 01-23-2007 10:33 AM

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I like the Colts......I just can't see Rex Grossman holding that trophy.

Colts - 31

Bears - 21

ArtMonkDrillz 01-23-2007 10:35 AM

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;271838]I like the Colts......I just can't see Rex Grossman holding that trophy.

Colts - 31

Bears - 21[/QUOTE]I was saying that about Grossman last week. Out of the four QBs that were left going into this past Sunday, if Grossman were to come out on top I would be sure that the End of Days was upon us.

henry12portis26 01-23-2007 10:44 AM

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Da Bears!!!!!!!

Bears- 20
Colts - 17

If a certain coach Ditka was Da Coach

Bears - 96
Colts - 3

MTK 01-23-2007 10:46 AM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;271839]I was saying that about Grossman last week. Out of the four QBs that were left going into this past Sunday, if Grossman were to come out on top I would be sure that the End of Days was upon us.[/quote]

I think the fact that Dilfer has a ring is much worse than if Rex gets one.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 10:48 AM

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[QUOTE=IHATECOVER2;271731]and further more

Why do professional atheletes shamelessly deliver praise to Jesus every time they win a significant confrontation. I mean, do you really think the Lord gives a shit about first downs and red flag challenges? Is the Lord up there in the Big Ol' Sky starin' at his Big Ass 1080i Hi Def Flat Screen Plasma LCD HD TV that he "totally doesn't even know what that means but he wants it". What if there isn't a Lord after all. What if the Lord that Jim Irsay is referring to is Lord Helmet from Spaceballs. Well I would comb the desert and while we're talking about sand, do you remember that shit about "Footsteps"...well I guess Jesus, needs to update that shit to read...""My son, my precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering,
when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I helped Jim Irsay and the Colts defeat the Patriots, you selfish bastard. . My Son."

i'm surrounded by assholes[/QUOTE]

Haha. That's funny, but I think the Lord would have 1080p -- not 1080i. ;)

ArtMonkDrillz 01-23-2007 10:53 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;271848]I think the fact that Dilfer has a ring is much worse than if Rex gets one.[/QUOTE]
At least Dilfer was fairly smart with the ball. Grossman still tries to throw it away when he's wrapped up or he forgets to bring it in close to his body and hold on to it with both hands. I just feel like when Grossman makes one good throw he feels like he can do no wrong and becomes very careless with his decisions.

hail_2_da_skins 01-23-2007 11:15 AM

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First of all, I hate the Colts. So my natural instinct is to root for the Bears. Realistically, the Bears are going to get mauled. The Colts get after the quarterback and Grossman is terrible under pressure. I envision three pick by Grossman and Manning kicking the monkey to the curb and having a big day. The only chance the Bears have is to create havoc on defense. I just don't see that happening for four quarters.

Colt 35
Bears 10

GTripp0012 01-23-2007 11:17 AM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;271839]I was saying that about Grossman last week. Out of the four QBs that were left going into this past Sunday, if Grossman were to come out on top I would be sure that the End of Days was upon us.[/quote]Winning in the playoffs tends to do little with QBs. No special reason, he's just one starter out of 22. Defense is half the game, and tends to control the tempo in the playoffs. Good offenses can be shut out entirely.

The Bears defense was the best in the playoffs after the Ravens got knocked out. They should have been the favorite to go all the way at that point, but a lot of the major media outlets got wrapped up in the Saints story, and completely forgot the Bears were the better team. I have to think the Colts would be favored, but we are talking about the 3rd or 4th best team from the AFC going up against the class of the NFC. I expect the Bears to flat out control the game from the 2nd quarter on.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 11:41 AM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;271834]The Ravens defense is good, but they are not even close to the Bears, IMO. The Bears defense is the most physical defense I've seen in a while.

226 yards passing, 93 yards rushing, 34 points, and 1 sack is your idea of a "nasty" defense? Get real.[/quote]
GhettoDogAllstars, did you not look at the rest of the stats I put up? I want you to write out all the stats I just posted, and then next to each of them write "is your idea of a 'nasty' defense? Get real." next to it, so you can see how stupid you sound. I am being real when I say this. Are you forgetting how the Patriots normally embarass the Colts during the playoffs because the Colts defense has been so soft? Well, guess what, that clearly didn't happen this year because their defense stepped up and helped the team do something they have not been able to do before. I'm also being quite real when I say that they've held many good players in the league such as Larry Johnson, Trent Green, Jamal Lewis, Steve McNair, Corey Dillion, and Lawrence Maroney to sub par games. You get real.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 12:09 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271859]GhettoDogAllstars, did you not look at the rest of the stats I put up? I want you to write out all the stats I just posted, and then next to each of them write "is your idea of a 'nasty' defense? Get real." next to it, so you can see how stupid you sound. I am being real when I say this. Are you forgetting how the Patriots normally embarass the Colts during the playoffs because the Colts defense has been so soft? Well, guess what, that clearly didn't happen this year because their defense stepped up and helped the team do something they have not been able to do before. I'm also being quite real when I say that they've held many good players in the league such as Larry Johnson, Trent Green, Jamal Lewis, Steve McNair, Corey Dillion, and Lawrence Maroney to sub par games. You get real.[/QUOTE]

How convenient that the stats you want to use are the oldest. Look at what they did most recently, please. The score was 28 to 3 against a mediocre Pats offense. That's not good. How is a defense "stepping up" when they give up 34 points to a mediocre offense?

None of those teams you mentioned have top 10 offenses. I'm not saying the Bears do. I'm just saying those stats are garbage, and so is your argument.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 12:18 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;271866]How convenient that the stats you want to use are the oldest. Look at what they did most recently, please. The score was 28 to 3 against a mediocre Pats offense. That's not good. How is a defense "stepping up" when they give up 34 points to a mediocre offense?

None of those teams you mentioned have top 10 offenses. I'm not saying the Bears do. I'm just saying those stats are garbage, and so is your argument.[/quote]
The oldest stats?! I'm using stats from this year's playoffs!!!!!! Yeah, the Patriots are known for having a mediocre offense in the playoffs, are you mental?! They have Tom Brady on their team!! Name one player in the NFL you'd fear more to face off against in the playoffs, please!!! Their offense didn't seem to be mediocre when they beat the Chargers defense, or are they not good either?

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 12:27 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271871]The oldest stats?! I'm using stats from this year's playoffs!!!!!! Yeah, the Patriots are known for having a mediocre offense in the playoffs, are you mental?! They have Tom Brady on their team!! Name one player in the NFL you'd fear more to face off against in the playoffs, please!!! Their offense didn't seem to be mediocre when they beat the Chargers defense, or are they not good either?[/QUOTE]

I meant oldest as in: the oldest stats of the ones you provided.

Here's a quote from you:
"Are you forgetting how the Patriots normally embarass the Colts during the playoffs because the Colts defense has been so soft?"

You are basically saying the Colts have a strong defense because they beat the Pats, and the Pats have had good offenses in the past (when the Colts couldn't beat them). Weak.

Anyways, let's look at the most recent game:
226 yards passing, 93 yards rushing, 34 points, and 1 sack.

Please tell me how this is indicative of a "nasty" defense -- seriously. They gave up 34 points, for crying out loud!

You also forget that their run defense was one of the worst in the league this year. A couple "good" games (your definition -- not mine), and all of a sudden they have a good defense? Whatever.

firstdown 01-23-2007 12:29 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;271874]I meant oldest as in: the oldest stats of the ones you provided.

Here's a quote from you:
"Are you forgetting how the Patriots normally embarass the Colts during the playoffs because the Colts defense has been so soft?"

You are basically saying the Colts have a strong defense because they beat the Pats, and the Pats have had good offenses in the past (when the Colts couldn't beat them). Weak.

Anyways, let's look at the most recent game:
226 yards passing, 93 yards rushing, 34 points, and 1 sack.

Please tell me how this is indicative of a "nasty" defense -- seriously. They gave up 34 points, for crying out loud!

You also forget that their run defense was one of the worst in the league this year. A couple "good" games (your definition -- not mine), and all of a sudden they have a good defense? Whatever.[/quote]
If I'm correct didn't the Pats have a short field to work with most of the game?

jamf 01-23-2007 12:34 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271811]???? Explain tough guy. He just beat the Ravens and the Patriots. You don't think their defenses are just as nasty as the Bears, the Ravens defense was even better![/QUOTE]

:)

The colts give up the fewest sacks every year because the throws the ball away at the first sign of pressure.

Did you see the ravens game? he was 15-30 with170 yards and no TD's. 5 Field Goals is not going to beat the bears!

The patriots defence is no where near what it once was. No harrison and seymour was limited.

Manning is going to choke, Atleast I hope so.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 12:35 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;271875]If I'm correct didn't the Pats have a short field to work with most of the game?[/QUOTE]

You're right. The Colts defense [i]must[/i] be nasty. They weren't able to stop the Pats, but only because the field was short. :rolleyes:

(sorry to be curt, I just want to make a point)

Redskinhog1963 01-23-2007 12:36 PM

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the colts beat the patriots who regardless of record,are probably the best team ever in the playoffs.the bears and AINT'S
were good,but ne or the colts could beat either of them.i'll say 31-17 colts.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 12:59 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;271874]I meant oldest as in: the oldest stats of the ones you provided.

Here's a quote from you:
"Are you forgetting how the Patriots normally embarass the Colts during the playoffs because the Colts defense has been so soft?"

[B]You are basically saying the Colts have a strong defense because they beat the Pats, and the Pats have had good offenses in the past (when the Colts couldn't beat them). Weak.[/B]

Anyways, let's look at the most recent game:
226 yards passing, 93 yards rushing, 34 points, and 1 sack.

Please tell me how this is indicative of a "nasty" defense -- seriously. They gave up 34 points, for crying out loud!

You also forget that their run defense was one of the worst in the league this year. A couple "good" games (your definition -- not mine), and all of a sudden they have a good defense? Whatever.[/quote]

In the words of Walter Sobchack, as played by John Goodman in one of my favorite movies, THE BIG LEBOWKSI, "You have no frame of reference here GhettoDogAllStar. You're like a small child who's wandered into the middle of a movie and wants to know...." Well I guess if I was you, I'd want to know how to make logical arguments, or actually read what other people write before replying, I hope you're not a lawyer.
Here's a quote for you, "You are basically saying the Colts have a strong defense because they beat the Pats, and the Pats have had good offenses in the past (when the Colts couldn't beat them). Weak. [B][I]WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?![/I][/B] Did you seriously not read a word that I wrote. I said they're a good defense because they held LJ to 44 yards, held McNair to 120 yards passing, and because their defense this year helped them beat the Pats, when in the past their defense has let them down against the Pats in the playoffs!!!!! How bout I think their defense is good because they held the Ravens to 6 points!!!!! 6 points in the playoffs!!!! How is that not good?!
And continuing on with your illogical arguments are you saying that we should judge how good a team is based on their last performance?! I mean, that's what you're saying right? That the Colt's defense sucks cause they let the Pats score 34, even though they still won, right? Seriously, think about that for a second. You are judging the Colts defense based on one game out of 3, how does that make any sense? One game against their arch rival, that everyone knew was going to be a dog fight. In addition, everyone knows that the regular season stats don't really matter in the playoffs, it's about getting hot, clicking, and getting healthy at the right time, kinda like the Colts defense.

I on the other hand am going to look at this in a more sensible manner, by looking at how the Colts' defense has played throughout the playoffs.
[B]Average rushing yards for their opponent - 79 yards[/B]
[B]Average passing yards for their opponent - 171 yards[/B]
[B]Average points for their opponent - 16 points[/B]
[B]HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THEIR DEFENSE IS NOT GOOD?!?!?![/B]
[B]In addition, they've averaged 2 takeaways per game since the playoffs started!!![/B]

Go sit in your tower.

SmootSmack 01-23-2007 01:05 PM

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I must have missed it along the way but Ghetto and Gabe what are your SB predictions?

gabe1984 01-23-2007 01:07 PM

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I'll take the Colts

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 02:29 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271895]In the words of Walter Sobchack, as played by John Goodman in one of my favorite movies, THE BIG LEBOWKSI, "You have no frame of reference here GhettoDogAllStar. You're like a small child who's wandered into the middle of a movie and wants to know...." Well I guess if I was you, I'd want to know how to make logical arguments, or actually read what other people write before replying, I hope you're not a lawyer.
Here's a quote for you, "You are basically saying the Colts have a strong defense because they beat the Pats, and the Pats have had good offenses in the past (when the Colts couldn't beat them). Weak. [B][I]WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?![/I][/B] Did you seriously not read a word that I wrote. I said they're a good defense because they held LJ to 44 yards, held McNair to 120 yards passing, and because their defense this year helped them beat the Pats, when in the past their defense has let them down against the Pats in the playoffs!!!!! How bout I think their defense is good because they held the Ravens to 6 points!!!!! 6 points in the playoffs!!!! How is that not good?!
And continuing on with your illogical arguments are you saying that we should judge how good a team is based on their last performance?! I mean, that's what you're saying right? That the Colt's defense sucks cause they let the Pats score 34, even though they still won, right? Seriously, think about that for a second. You are judging the Colts defense based on one game out of 3, how does that make any sense? One game against their arch rival, that everyone knew was going to be a dog fight. In addition, everyone knows that the regular season stats don't really matter in the playoffs, it's about getting hot, clicking, and getting healthy at the right time, kinda like the Colts defense.

I on the other hand am going to look at this in a more sensible manner, by looking at how the Colts' defense has played throughout the playoffs.
[B]Average rushing yards for their opponent - 79 yards[/B]
[B]Average passing yards for their opponent - 171 yards[/B]
[B]Average points for their opponent - 16 points[/B]
[B]HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THEIR DEFENSE IS NOT GOOD?!?!?![/B]
[B]In addition, they've averaged 2 takeaways per game since the playoffs started!!![/B]

Go sit in your tower.[/QUOTE]

"You are judging the Colts defense based on one game out of 3, how does that make any sense?"

It's clear that you know I am judging the Colts defense based on the regular season -- not just one game -- as evidenced by the following quote:

"In addition, everyone knows that the regular season stats don't really matter in the playoffs..."

LOL.

Here's an excellent example of the [I]ad hominem[/I] fallacy:

"Well I guess if I was you, I'd want to know how to make logical arguments, or actually read what other people write before replying, I hope you're not a lawyer."

Haha. Sounds like a "logical" argument to me. :rolleyes: Attack the argument -- not the person.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, calm down.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 02:42 PM

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[B][I][U]LOL[/U][/I][/B] It's clear that you know I am judging the Colts defense based on the regular season. Haha, why would you do that, it's the playoffs.

"[B]Well I guess if I was you, I'd want to know how to make logical arguments, or actually read what other people write before replying, I hope you're not a lawyer."

Haha. Sounds like a "logical" argument to me. Attack the argument -- not the person.[/B]
You're right, that's not a "logical" argument. I'm not arguing anything, I'm just telling you what I think. I really hope you're not a lawyer. Maybe you should follow your own advice in "Attack the argument -- not the person." And don't tell people to "Get Real" when they don't agree with you.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 02:54 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271939][B][I][U]LOL[/U][/I][/B] It's clear that you know I am judging the Colts defense based on the regular season. Haha, why would you do that, it's the playoffs.

"[B]Well I guess if I was you, I'd want to know how to make logical arguments, or actually read what other people write before replying, I hope you're not a lawyer."

Haha. Sounds like a "logical" argument to me. Attack the argument -- not the person.[/B]
You're right, that's not a "logical" argument. I'm not arguing anything, I'm just telling you what I think. I really hope you're not a lawyer. Maybe you should follow your own advice in "Attack the argument -- not the person." And don't tell people to "Get Real" when they don't agree with you.[/QUOTE]

You say you're not arguing anything? We are arguing. There is NO reason to make personal attacks. Just argue your point. How does saying, "I really hope you're not a lawyer," help your argument? That statement adds no value to your argument, so it's not necessary.

I'm judging the Colts defense over 16 games, and you're judging them over 3 games -- one of which they played pretty poorly.

You seem pretty angry. If I offended you by saying "Get Real", then I am sorry. Please forgive me.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 03:00 PM

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You're right, it adds no value, I'm just stating an opinion. You can't state opinion on this site?

GhettoDogAllStars 01-23-2007 03:04 PM

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[QUOTE=gabe1984;271945]You're right, it adds no value, I'm just stating an opinion. You can't state opinion on this site?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, ask the mods.

IMO, this forum is for stating football opinions (and other off-topic opinions), but not for stating your opinions about other members.

gabe1984 01-23-2007 03:10 PM

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it may be ok every once in a while

MTK 01-23-2007 03:14 PM

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Simmer down ladies

gibbs4life 01-23-2007 03:17 PM

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i say the colts win --34-17...
the pressure is off peyton now getting past his nemesis the patroits.

hooskins 01-23-2007 05:33 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;271953]Simmer down ladies[/quote]

haha you all are girls.

IHATECOVER2 01-23-2007 05:48 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;271850]Haha. That's funny, but I think the Lord would have 1080p -- not 1080i. ;)[/quote]

WOW! Someone has a sense of humor...I am impressed.

bigSkinsfan61 01-24-2007 03:57 PM

ill admit i think the bears will win the superbowl
 
Bears by 3!!!! only because im excited about them even being involved in the game...my fiancee is the biggest bears fan ive ever met, and for her sake i believe they will . Both of the lines are bigger than that of the colts , to me that translates into wearing a team down . And by the way they come to Fed Ex next season,:oink: so we can spank that world champion ass in dc...lol peyton is a great qback and he beat us this yr only because our defensice backfield suckkkkked alll year

TheMalcolmConnection 01-24-2007 04:00 PM

Re: ill admit i think the bears will win the superbowl
 
Omfg! Lollzzzzz!!!111

Pocket$ $traight 01-24-2007 05:29 PM

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[quote=jamf;271650]Da Bears.
Manning is a pussy. He doesn't want to get hit. You are going to see the worst game of manning career.
With that being said, The bear will barely hold on to a win.[/quote]


I think Manning made his statement when he ran the ball in after halftime. That is when I was convinced that it was going to be a competitive game. Didn't Manning only miss one play after his jaw was broken one year? He may have a history of choking but his manhood cannot be questioned.

What about that felonious hit that Philip Daniels put on him? After that, he abused us...

My prediction is Redskins in '08!

wolfeskins 01-27-2007 03:09 PM

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;272282]
My prediction is Redskins in '08![/quote]


i 2nd that pick.:food-smil

for the 07, i'll pick the colts, though i kinda want the bears just for the fact that they represent the NFC.

dmek25 01-27-2007 06:30 PM

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bears 21
colts 17

JGisLordOfTheRings 01-27-2007 06:33 PM

Re: ill admit i think the bears will win the superbowl
 
[quote=bigSkinsfan61;272257]Bears by 3!!!! only because im excited about them even being involved in the game...my fiancee is the biggest bears fan ive ever met, and for her sake i believe they will . Both of the lines are bigger than that of the colts , to me that translates into wearing a team down . And by the way they come to Fed Ex next season,:oink: so we can spank that world champion ass in dc...lol peyton is a great qback and he beat us this yr only because our defensice backfield suckkkkked alll year[/quote]


Hehe...been drinkin a little pops? Haha....Bears by 7 if GROSS-MAN doesnt implode himself upon the team.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-27-2007 07:44 PM

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I see the Colts winning this one. The Bears defense is inconsistent of late. The Colts have of the best punters in the league who will keep the ball out of Hester's hands. The Colts come out early and put up a bunch of points to force the Bears to look to the passing game and Grossman, who simply flops.

Colts 31-17.

vaoutlaws2006 01-28-2007 08:50 AM

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colts 34 bears 10 ....grossman plays bad enough to see griese by the second half

GhettoDogAllStars 01-29-2007 09:18 AM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;273031]I see the Colts winning this one. The Bears defense is inconsistent of late. The Colts have of the best punters in the league who will keep the ball out of Hester's hands. The Colts come out early and put up a bunch of points to force the Bears to look to the passing game and Grossman, who simply flops.

Colts 31-17.[/QUOTE]

Hunter the Punter? Yeah, he's decent.

(hehe ... I just like saying "Hunter the Punter" :))

dmek25 01-29-2007 09:21 AM

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doesnt take much to amuse you, does it? :)


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