Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;275707]I honestly don't know what the hell to think about the LBs.

First, I think Marshall didn't have a great year. But he also didn't have much in the way of DT play in front of him. So I don't know what to make of Lemar.

If you bring in a new middle LB, or even if you shift someone on the roster to the middle, they're going to have to learn to be GW's QB of the defense, and make all those calls. That's a big adjustment.

I have no idea what they should do. Totally at a loss. I just wish Pierce were still here.[/QUOTE]

If the D-line keeps getting trampled, it won't matter who lines up where at linebacker.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

Hopefully the #6 pick will bring us a stud defensive lineman. That would be a good start to resurrecting this defense.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;275702]This would fit into my strategy of getting Branch in the draft giving up next years 1st and 3rd to get back into the first to get Paul Posluszny and shift him to the middle.

knowing us we will swat a fly with a bazooka and sign Adalius Thomas also. Marshal should compete in both spots to push the younger players to step up in my scenario.[/quote]

I'm about tired of giving away draft picks, how about trading down to get more picks? Let's stop the madness. We could trade down to get a MLB but i'm not sure a rookie lb is what GW wants or needs in his system. Who knows if he would start or not?

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[quote=offiss;275672]Marshall need's to be replaced with someone in the draft, I am tired of seeing us try to short cut the system with free agent retreads, . . . .[/quote]

You raise some good points. Let me ask a question. Who's going to coach young linebackers? Kirk Olivadotti was a quality control assistant, then worked as assistant position coach for the defensive line and special teams. At the college level, he coached wide receivers. Not sure he even [I]played[/I] linebacker? I'm sure he can gameplan linebackers, but can he teach the position?

Not knocking the guy. Gibbs and company must have seen something in him. I'm just saying maybe this coaching staff isn't really geared to evaluate and develop young players.

Exhibit A - Rocky McIntosh

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[QUOTE=Master4Caster;275830]Gibbs and company must have seen something in him. I'm just saying maybe this coaching staff isn't really geared to evaluate and develop young players.

Exhibit A - Rocky McIntosh[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's bad enough if that 2nd round pick turns out being a bust, but it's even worse that they traded up (losing this year's 2nd in the process) to get him.

Most people here are going to defend Rocky until he gets more playing time. It may very well be too early to make the judgement about him.

Still, we know he wasn't good enough to start right away.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

A lot of people on a lot of teams don't start right away. I don't know why that's reason to completely write them off as busts.

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[quote=Mattyk72;275779]Hopefully the #6 pick will bring us a stud defensive lineman. That would be a good start to resurrecting this defense.[/quote]

So do you think we should draft a Stud D lineman?

Or Lamar Woodley from Michigan at MLB?

Either one would be great at # 6.

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[QUOTE]A lot of people on a lot of teams don't start right away. I don't know why that's reason to completely write them off as busts.[/QUOTE]

Pointing out that he didn't start right away is not the same as saying he's a bust.

But by the same token, not seeing any sort of significant playing time until week 15 or 16 is enough reason, in my mind, to raise at least [I]some[/I] concerns.

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McIntosh looked pretty good on special teams and once he finally got some playing time at the end he looked very athletic. Perhaps he was just slow in picking things up. Who really knows why he wasn't playing, but I do think it's too early to write him off.

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[quote=dmek25;275673]i think my point is why keep putting players out of position? either draft( which i would prefer) or sign a middle linebacker from free agency[/quote]


I agree with that 100%. I would lean towards signing a FA since Williams' scheme may be too complicated for a rookie to grasp immediately.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[QUOTE=Beemnseven;275775]Losing a 3rd rounder for T.J. Duckett doesn't really bother you?

How about not having this year's 2nd for the chance to get Rocky McIntosh?[/QUOTE]

Neither bothers me. I understood the reasoning behind both at the time. The results weren't what we wanted but that is not a function of the decision. If we know something is going to not work and we still make a bad decision then that bothers me. When we can't make right and keep Pierec we KNOW that we are going to lose him. To think we can drop our QBMLB and just up and replace him was foolish on top of simply not doing enough to keep him.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;275901]McIntosh looked pretty good on special teams and once he finally got some playing time at the end he looked very athletic. Perhaps he was just slow in picking things up. Who really knows why he wasn't playing, but I do think it's too early to write him off.[/QUOTE]

I am HOPING that the reason Rocky played so little is because LB is the most difficult position in GW's defense mentally. I would tend to think S would be too but Taylor starting so much as a rook was also HOPEFULLY simply because of his freakish athleticism demanding he play.

Lots of hoping there. God help us if Rocky blows.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;275906]Neither bothers me. I understood the reasoning behind both at the time. The results weren't what we wanted but that is not a function of the decision. If we know something is going to not work and we still make a bad decision then that bothers me. When we can't make right and keep Pierec we KNOW that we are going to lose him. To think we can drop our QBMLB and just up and replace him was foolish on top of simply not doing enough to keep him.[/QUOTE]


I don't know -- with all the help we need on D, that 3rd round pick sure would have been nice come April. Plus, they already had Ladell and Rock backing up Portis. Then with the word that Gibbs was worried the Eagles would get TJ, it was clear proof that somebody at Redskin Park overreacted in a severe way. That's the problem I have with that mentality -- this team gives away draft picks like fast food restaurants give away Sweet N' Low and creamers. (Great signature by the way, for anyone interested)

A third round pick is gold in this day and age. To fall all over themselves and then totally waste Duckett once they got him had 'bad decision' written all over it from the get-go.

You're a much more forgiving person than I am.

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[QUOTE=JDALY27;275870]So do you think we should draft a Stud D lineman?

Or Lamar Woodley from Michigan at MLB?

Either one would be great at # 6.[/QUOTE]

who is this guy? lol, washington is 248lbs and why in the hell would we draft a 6'2 274 guy at MLB at #6, when his position is DE???

Re: Skins looking for new MLB; Marshall back to the outside?
 

[quote=jrocx69;275926]who is this guy? lol, washington is 248lbs and why in the hell would we draft a 6'2 274 guy at MLB at #6, when his position is DE???[/quote]

maybe it's his agent.