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They were reporting on WSLS Channel 10 news out of Roanoke, Virginia that one of the 22 that was killed was the shooter himself. If you go on CNN.com, you can actually watch the cell phone video of the cops firing their guns at what we assume is the shooter.

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I find it hard to believe that he got off that many rounds without someone taking him down.

This is so tragic.

I just talked to my engineering buddy and he's very shaken up, he didn't really say much, just that he was okay and he'd talk to me later.

I'm wondering whether or not he was in the building. This shit is insane.

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Glad to see that you're ok Big C. This is effing crazy. I used to go down to Blacksburg all the time (most of my friends graduated in 2000).......and besides VA Tech, theres nothing else in that town. That place will never be the same after this.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all VA tech students who were injured and/or killed.

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I don't understand why so many. Why did he feel the need to kill SOOO many?????!?!??!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;298141]It just sucks, not really sure what you can do, unless you want to post an armed guard outside of every high school and college classroom in the country (which would cost way too much money).
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And who's to say they won't lose it and go postal?

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ABC news is reporting 29 now confirmed dead

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[quote=hesscl34;298145]The mental health of this person is the big issue, and the US is terrible about getting people help. The laws SUCK and they let people walk every day that should be in a hospita getting the help they need. A sick person cannot know when he's ok to go home!![/quote]

This is probably true, Hessy. But ultimately everyone has to be responsible for his or her own mental condition, not the government.

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Number has risen to 32 confirmed dead

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[QUOTE=Hog1;298154]Number has risen to 32 confirmed dead[/QUOTE]

Oh my word. They are still just reporting at least 22 on local news here. How can one man take out that many people? And...is that not counting the ones who are just injured at the hospital?

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Where are you guys reading this info? I've pretty much only been on CNN, yahoo and the washington post's website.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;298156]Where are you guys reading this info? I've pretty much only been on CNN, yahoo and the washington post's website.[/QUOTE]

I am watching WSLS News out of Roanoke, VA. They have just reported it a few minutes ago.

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I haven't seen more that 22. Where are you hearing 32? My God. How can only one person get this much fire off? Where were the police? How did this guiy move to a second location without being seen and reported to law enforcement?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;298156]Where are you guys reading this info? I've pretty much only been on CNN, yahoo and the washington post's website.[/quote]

Local news websites. They're not current but fairly.
[URL="http://www.wsls.com"]WSLS.com | Home[/URL]
[URL="http://www.wdbj7.com"]WDBJ7 Roanoke News and Weather NRV Lynchburg Danville WDBJ 7 | Home[/URL]

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[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;298159]I haven't seen more that 22. Where are you hearing 32? My God. How can only one person get this much fire off? Where were the police? How did this guiy move to a second location without being seen and reported to law enforcement?[/QUOTE]

Fox News also reported as well.

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/]Breaking News | News & Media | Latest Current - FOXNews.com[/url]

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The 32 number I heard on another radio show which was monitoring the ABC feed.

[url=http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/]ABC News: For the Latest Breaking News, Turn to World News[/url]

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[quote=skinsguy;298161]Fox News also reported as well.[/quote]

I'm guessing he didn't walk across campus with a gun in his hand. It's pretty cold up there so he could have tucked it into his shirt or jacket and kept his head down. Not too many alert college kids, or people in general, walking around campus at 7:30 in the morning.

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I have been in a meeting all morning and just got news of this - It's horrific. My hearts go out to all the parents sitting at home wondering if their child is okay - the thought of losing a child and the consequent pain is almost unimaginable to me, and that which I can imagine seems unbearable.

My prayers are with all those affected by this horrible act.

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it was cold as hell this morning, snowing a little, and extremely windy. he could have easily concealed his wepons because everyone was wearing heavy coats.

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[quote=12thMan;298153]This is probably true, Hessy. But ultimately everyone has to be responsible for his or her own mental condition, not the government.[/quote]

When you are metally ill you can't be responsible. That's the problem!

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Your right Joe, My prayers are for the families, and the slain. It does not seem possible that this can happen..........

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[quote=hesscl34;298171]When you are metally ill you can't be responsible. That's the problem![/quote]

So how should the government fix this?

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The government can't "fix" this. I do think the parents of shooters should be held liable for their children's actions. Who f*cking raises monsters like these? People sends their kids to school to learn not have your f'ed up kid kill them.

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There is no reasonable way to explain/prevent this from happening socially.


School's nationwide will crackdown, and metal detectors entering dorms and classrooms will and should be instituted. This is not a policy flaw, to suggest that is just wrong.

No-one will be able to get answers for this. There is no valid reason for this to happen. There are crazy people in this world, and this highlights that.

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[quote=saden1;298179]The government can't "fix" this. I do think the parents of shooters should be held liable for their children's actions. Who f*cking raises monsters like these? People sends their kids to school to learn not have your f'ed up kid kill them.[/quote]
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[COLOR=black]If the f*cked up kid is paranoid and psychotic then his parents have nothing to do with it!! It's an illness that should have been diagnosed and treated, but the laws are too lax and they let the sick take care of themselves! As the medical people say "You can be as crazy as you want as long as you don't hurt anyone". Well, by then it's too late!!![/COLOR]

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cancel class after the first murder, not wait around like a dumb university. as far as im concerned the university bear some responsability. if they cancel class, many more people are probably still alive.

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For some reason I don't think discussing the the state of the mental health laws and gun control laws is what we should be dojng at this point. Maybe tomorrow but for ow I think we should stick to the news and prayers. We can argue over causation tomorrow.

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[quote=Big C;298185]cancel class after the first murder, not wait around like a dumb university. as far as im concerned the university bear some responsability. if they cancel class, many more people are probably still alive.[/quote]

Seriously, I cannot believe they didn't cancel the classes!!!

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;298186]For some reason I don't think discussing the the state of the mental health laws and gun control laws is what we should be dojng at this point. Maybe tomorrow but for ow I think we should stick to the news and prayers. We can argue over causation tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

good call

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What a shame, this is a senseless tragedy. May GOD be with all the families and students during this horrible time.

May GOD BLESS YOU ALL

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[quote=Big C;298185]cancel class after the first murder, not wait around like a dumb university. as far as im concerned the university bear some responsability. if they cancel class, many more people are probably still alive.[/quote] From what I have heard from some initial reports is that the shootings were un-related, and the first guy is in custody.

There's a lot of mis-information out there... So it's really impossible to judge what when on right now.

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Making people more accountable for who they allow into a restricted dormitory would a good start.

As tragic as this story is, you got to realize that the last time something like this happened on such a comparable scale was 40 years ago. That's a lot of students at a lot of colleges and universities that have lived in relative safety during their time in school.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;298191]From what I have heard from some initial reports is that the shootings were un-related, and the first guy is in custody.

There's a lot of mis-information out there... So it's really impossible to judge what when on right now.[/QUOTE]

thats not the point bro. if u cancel class then no1 would have been in that classroom to be lined up and slaughtered

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[quote=Big C;298185]cancel class after the first murder, not wait around like a dumb university. as far as im concerned the university bear some responsability. if they cancel class, many more people are probably still alive.[/quote]


Any idea when those classes started? If it was an early class like 8:00 then students are already in the classroom. Once the school is in lockdown don't you have to remain in the classroom until your building is cleared by security.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;298191]From what I have heard from some initial reports is that the shootings were un-related, and the first guy is in custody.

There's a lot of mis-information out there... So it's really impossible to judge what when on right now.[/QUOTE]

What the local news is reporting is that the shooter killed himself and that there was only one shooter. They also reported that students were jumping out of the windows to get away from the shooter. There is also currently 29 others who are in the various regional hospitals being treated for gunshot wounds and other wounds related to today's event. They have also said that it was actually 31 people, including the shooter who died today, and not 32. So, there is a total of nearly 60 people killed or wounded.

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[quote=Big C;298195]thats not the point bro. if u cancel class then no1 would have been in that classroom to be lined up and slaughtered[/quote]

your totally right...

i was just saying i saw some different reports.

i shouldn't be making calls on this anyways... it's really too early

sorry if any dis-respect was taken for that... i was just observing.

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Just to echo earlier sentiments, this probably isn't the best time to really talk about governement, guns, mental health, etc. Just out of respect to the victims and families and students of VaTech.

My bad.

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Throwing out prayers from VCU! Thinking of you Hokies

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[quote=12thMan;298200]Just to echo earlier sentiments, this probably isn't the best time to really talk about governement, guns, mental health, etc. Just out of respect to the victims and families and students of VaTech.

My bad.[/quote]

I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I don't see how talking about ways to prevent tragedies like these is at all disrespectful to the dead. If anything, it shows a great appreciation for human life in general; we're talking about the best way to prevent senseless deaths like these. I don't know a better way to honor their lives.

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[quote=Schneed10;298212]I personally don't see anything wrong with it. I don't see how talking about ways to prevent tragedies like these is at all disrespectful to the dead. If anything, it shows a great appreciation for human life in general; we're talking about the best way to prevent senseless deaths like these. I don't know a better way to honor their lives.[/quote]


Well, it's not a matter of right or wrong. It's just a matter of being sensitive, that's all.