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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;299105]Dammit. I feel...so...ashamed. :(

F'ed in the A.[/quote]

PWNED n00b!!!11!

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;299105]Dammit. I feel...so...ashamed. :(

F'ed in the A.[/QUOTE]

I think Finch was a co-worker

Re: Grade Dan Snyder
 

[quote=skinsfan69;299045]You forgot to put in F-. If you put that in I would cast my vote as F-.
He is the one of the worst owners in sports. Who cares if he wants to win. The question is does he know how to win?

1. How do you fire Norv with a 7-6 record? Fire the guy after the season, not during. AWFUL!
2. 2000 speding spree was a complete joke.
3. Ran off Brad Johnson for Jeff George. AWFUL!
4. Fired Marty after he had the team on the right track. AWFUL!
5. Hired OBC who was a joke of an NFL coach. Why wouldn't you hire Marvin Lewis? Complete stupidity.
6. Charging fans for training camp. Would JKC ever do this? Hell no.
7. Not bringing in a GM. If Danny Boi really wanted to win as badly as we all know he does then he would bring in someone who knows how to do it. Why is Floyd Reese still working for ESPN? Who cares if it pisses off Gibbs. Too bad.
8. Why does he keep Vinny around? No reason to do so. WTF has Vinny done since he has been here? Oh yeah. He brought in Trung Canidate and let go of Steven Davis. Simply pathetic.

There is so much more but no need to even bring it up. He sucks as an owner. Period.[/quote]

AMEN BROTHER!! I gave him a D, only, ONLY b/c he brought Joe Gibbs back. That bumped him up a grade. Otherwise he's a big, emphatic, [SIZE=5]F.[/SIZE]

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He gets an F for effort

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B from me.

He gets the best players he can, whether people thinks he's overpaying or not. He manages to stay in good cap shape by writing contracts we can work with and renegotiate annually so we can afford the players we need. If the players don't work out, like Arch, it's not HIS fault...he fills the roster holes, not runs practices and workouts. Bonus points for bringing back Gibbs and handing him control of the team. He just writes checks and does it better than anyone else. While on finances, he has made the Redskins the most valuable sports organization IN THE WORLD. We're worth a billion dollars!

Why he doesn't get an A? Well, the first few years and the Spurrier experiment. He has learned from the "get vets to win now" mindset and has helped us develop a great core of young players for the long-term like Taylor, Cooley, Campbell, Sellers, etc.

Snyder gives us a team that can win on paper. When injuries or bad performances happen, it's NOT his fault.

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More and more I wish we had a Bill Bidwill or Donald Sterling running this team. Just so people could see what a bad owner is really like

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[quote=SmootSmack;299118]I think Finch was a co-worker[/quote]

Thanks for trying to make me feel better. *sniffle* :(

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D, maybe D+ for effort. Last year, when I thought he was mostly hands off and deferring to Gibbs, I would have given him a C.

Strengths:[LIST][*]Wealth, and not afraid to use it to stock the team[*]DC-based; unlikely to ever move the team to LA[*]Put in elevators to the upper deck of FedEx[*]Put in Easy Pass system to speed up concession lines[*]Lured Joe Gibbs out of retirement[/LIST]Needs Improvement[LIST][*]Not football smart. His flawed concept for building a team is disruptive. Taking short cuts is leading to an unbalanced roster, salary cap disruptions, skirting the salary cap. AS a result, his team is good with manipulating contracts for a few big stars; not good with developing young talent.[*]Not an organizational leader. NFL teams are like GE. Snyder runs the Redskins like a 1990s dot com. Dot coms got their value from creative software engineers working in a free wheeling way to create a niche product. They are one hit wonders. One or two stars could make you rich. GE operates for efficiency and effectiveness at [I]every[/I] level, and across-the-board leadership. It's not enough to have the best light bulbs, GE wants to make the best jet engines, generators, locomotives, . . . . They want the accounting department to be as efficient as manufacturing. Acting organizationally, they have sustained success. NOT a one hit wonder.[*]Snyder proposes a trade for Lance Briggs and THEN he tells Joe Gibbs? Did Snyder talk to Gregg Williams to get an understanding of if and how Williams might use Briggs before hand? Or what the trade offs would be? I doubt it. That's the kind of move Snyder was making in 2001. He said he would stop. (F)[*]Flawed vision. Snyder want to win now. Misguided, it might lead to a single Super Bowl and then a break-up of the team. Instead he should target consistent playoff appearances and build the best front office/souting team in the NFL. Then he might have a resilient team that overcomes injury by reloading from the bench, instead of rebuilding after failed seasons. Consistent playoff appearances boost the odds of getting to a Super Bowl. I know the Skins won't win the SB every year. I want a perrienial contender.[/LIST]

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I love the way you broke that down Master4Caster. Whether or not I agree with all your points, that was a great post.

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D Though he wants to win he has no idea how to. We need a football operations guy who knows what he's doing. Cerrato is terrible. And he needs to stay the hell out of operations. Do you guys realize he put together the trade for Briggs at a bar??? He probably had been drinking at the time, because I still say its a bad deal for us.

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A for effort and D for results. So, I guess I'd give him a C- (results mean more than effort). He's not the anti-christ, but he's no saint either.

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I gave a C, He always tries to make us fans happy, and he is getting better with experience, and moving forward he will be a good owner.

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I wish my grad school professors graded me based on "intentions." My heart was in the right place, sorry my paper is written on used toilet paper.

I agree that Snyder has made considerable strides, but the fact that he was one video camera away from being on "Owners Gone Wild" makes me wonder. I am probably being unduly harsh due to 2000 when Snyder was Rick James, the fans were Eddie Murphy and the team was the couch as Snyder said "F- your couch Eddie Murphy!" But I still hold a grudge against the first girl who gave me blueballs in high school, so maybe I'm just a bit "special."

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[quote=memphisskin;299338]I wish my grad school professors graded me based on "intentions." My heart was in the right place, sorry my paper is written on used toilet paper.

I agree that Snyder has made considerable strides, but the fact that he was one video camera away from being on "Owners Gone Wild" makes me wonder. I am probably being unduly harsh due to 2000 when Snyder was Rick James, the fans were Eddie Murphy and the team was the couch as Snyder said "F- your couch Eddie Murphy!" But I still hold a grudge against the first girl who gave me blueballs in high school, so maybe I'm just a bit "special."[/quote]

Charlie Murphy man....:doh:

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Why are we always trying to bash the owner of our beloved team? Its not like he bought his way into the role with the intentions of putting the worse team on the field possible. He hires coaches, he fires coaches, and he has paid top dollar to "So called Marquis Players." They failed and they got fired. I believe that he has learned from his frivilous spending ways and he is still trying to put a winning product on the field. Keep in mind that there are 31 other franchises trying to do it every year. 12 of them are somewhat successful, while there is only one true winner. I believe that his ownership will get the team where they want to be, but it takes time.

Case and point, Jerry Jones has owned the Cowgirls for a very long time. How many times have they made the Playoffs or won the Superbowl in the last decade? 4 Playoff appearances in which they lost all in the first round, and no Superbowls. Daniel Snyder has only owned the team for 8 years and his teams have posted two playoff appearances and no Superbowls. So is he really doing that bad. Not really, considering how many owners have had their teams for years and havent even seen a playoff game from the sideline.

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Definitely an F. And to think that I was so happy when he, a lifelong Skins fan, bought the team. He has made us the laughing stock of the league. If only John Kent Cooke had gotten the nod, we would be much better off.

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An F is the only grade I can give him. You can't buy championships, you win them on the field. To win them on the field it takes a team, a team is built piece by piece by drafting people and adding valuable free agents.
He only gave away so many picks and so many big bucks to dumb people.

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[quote=Mattyk72;298926]You can't question the guy's commitment to trying to turn things around. He wants to win badly... has he gone about things the right way?

Definitely not.

Even without fielding a consistent winner he's brought the value of the franchise to #1 across all sports. I think he's getting close to having things figured out. Once he does he'll be dangerous.

Overall I'd give him a C. Solid effort if somewhat misguided at times.[/quote]

great post F for me though

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[QUOTE=Master4Caster;299208]D, maybe D+ for effort. Last year, when I thought he was mostly hands off and deferring to Gibbs, I would have given him a C.

Strengths:[LIST][*]Wealth, and not afraid to use it to stock the team[*]DC-based; unlikely to ever move the team to LA[*]Put in elevators to the upper deck of FedEx[*]Put in Easy Pass system to speed up concession lines[*]Lured Joe Gibbs out of retirement[/LIST]Needs Improvement[LIST][*]Not football smart. His flawed concept for building a team is disruptive. Taking short cuts is leading to an unbalanced roster, salary cap disruptions, skirting the salary cap. AS a result, his team is good with manipulating contracts for a few big stars; not good with developing young talent.[*]Not an organizational leader. NFL teams are like GE. Snyder runs the Redskins like a 1990s dot com. Dot coms got their value from creative software engineers working in a free wheeling way to create a niche product. They are one hit wonders. One or two stars could make you rich. GE operates for efficiency and effectiveness at [I]every[/I] level, and across-the-board leadership. It's not enough to have the best light bulbs, GE wants to make the best jet engines, generators, locomotives, . . . . They want the accounting department to be as efficient as manufacturing. Acting organizationally, they have sustained success. NOT a one hit wonder.[*]Snyder proposes a trade for Lance Briggs and THEN he tells Joe Gibbs? Did Snyder talk to Gregg Williams to get an understanding of if and how Williams might use Briggs before hand? Or what the trade offs would be? I doubt it. That's the kind of move Snyder was making in 2001. He said he would stop. (F)[*]Flawed vision. Snyder want to win now. Misguided, it might lead to a single Super Bowl and then a break-up of the team. Instead he should target consistent playoff appearances and build the best front office/souting team in the NFL. Then he might have a resilient team that overcomes injury by reloading from the bench, instead of rebuilding after failed seasons. Consistent playoff appearances boost the odds of getting to a Super Bowl. I know the Skins won't win the SB every year. I want a perrienial contender.[/LIST][/QUOTE]


Awesome breakdown dude! Not sure about the grade.

If Bidwell is an F, and the Patriots Owner (Kraft???) an A, and since we have been to the PO's twice in 8 years, that puts us better than any F, but no A's.


Well, maybe a C is about right!

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i give him anf f on everything except bringing gibbs back.he still has the final word in all the deals.

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oh norv turner sucks as a head coach.i feel sorry for the chargers,they wont be worth a damn now that hes their head coach.

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I gave him an A+++. We were comparing him to the Cardinals right? or the Texans?

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like his love for the team, but stay the f*ck out of the way and dont play GM. not much more to say... D

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A++, I heart dan

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[quote=hooskins;301858]A++, I heart dan[/quote]

Now your just being a smartass like always.

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The Redskins are 59-69 since he bought the team.
That is not worthy of anything greater than a C.
You could make a strong argument for an F.

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D for only one playoff under him. 1999 team was already in place when he took over so that doesnt count. Changing coaches all the time butting in,not hiring real football people to run the team. Disregarding the draft abusing the FA. Not hardly ever keeping any of our players.

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Damn little Danny wife wouldnt give him a A on running this team. Who are these people lol.

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B- Im satisfied with our first 2 picks.

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well im glad your satisfied since we will be 6-10 0r at best 7-9 next year. Out dline is so sweet.

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[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;304441]well im glad your satisfied since we will be 6-10 0r at best 7-9 next year. Out dline is so sweet.[/quote]

dude seriously you need to stop bitching about the draft in EVERY thread...

There is a main draft thread in Draft Central, bitch there.