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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;326324]Hey BigMouthBaure.


CC me when you get balls enough to email her or if you plan on meeting me at her son's funneral. Until then you are a big mouth child.

Get a clue and grow up on Mommy and Daddy's money and Our serving childrens freedom they give you.

Yes, I'm lossing respect for you. Sorry but true. You would not have the balls to say all of this BS to me in person and I see that about you. It makes your words even more shallow and meaningless.

peace to you any way
mike[/quote]

You think i wouldn't e-mail her right now and thank her for her son's sacrifice? SBF? I think you lack a bit of logic. Regardless what i or anyone feels for the reason we are at war we still do mourn the loss of our citizens. How can you say that? I will shoot her an e-mail right now. I don't know what you don't understand. This nation sent our troops there. In my opinion we made a mistake. WE, a nation together. Not republican, not democrats. Something like 75% of the country was onboard with this at the beginning. The truth is many of us were wrong. I mean i was 13 at 9/11 but i am pretty sure i was up for the war. We sent our troops there and I feel that our mission has strayed. It is time for us to protect our troops and bring them back. What makes anyone that believes this a bad person? What don't you understand? I want change. Our soldiers got there when we tell them to. We told them to. We should never do that unless we are sure there is no other way. Now, at the time it may have been the right decision with all factors considered but now we need to bring them home and make an exit strategy. What is wrong in wanting this to end? It is my opinion. You have yours but i haven't put you down for it. YOu continue to do so in an uncivilized way. I said i wouldn't post here about this nonsense but you made me again.

Your second post of this thread was offensive. You are spawning arguements and then blame others when it continues. Buster made a political post that put some of us down. Why can't i defend myself. Look at my first post in this thread, i only tried to calm you down and was just speaking of the horrible divide in our country. What the hell did i do?

Talking about loosing respect too. I am loosing it for you FAR FAR FAR Faster than you me. I have prayed for your son when he was sick. I don't even know you but i did pray. I offered you help in you BBQ for the soldiers and you shot me down. I have nothing left i can do or say to make you understand where i am coming from. I don't waste my time typing this shit because i hate this country. I do it because that is what [B][U][I]I[/I][/U][/B] feel is bestWTF don't you understand? This is my opinion and i am entitled to it- YES by the soldiers that have fought for this country throughout history. So let me have my God given right and leave me alone.

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I'm not even going to get in to this argument. I’ll just say I support are troops and what they are trying to do.
[IMG]http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w316/redskins5605/18soldier1_md.jpg[/IMG]

IRVINE – Mark J. Daily's last e-mail to his family was brief.

"All is well," he wrote. "More war stories than I can fit in this e-mail. Having the time of my life!"

The 23-year-old was killed Monday when a bomb ripped through his military vehicle in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, officials said Wednesday.

Daily had been in Iraq for only three months.

Family and friends of the lifelong Irvine resident took some solace in his final message.

"He sincerely believed in what he was doing and wanted to finish the job and come home," Mark's father, John F. Daily, said in brief comments outside his home Wednesday.

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Does tess share the last name of her son SBF? And what is your e-mail if you want a BCC

Also sorry SS, i posted before i saw your response. I am not going to lie, it might not have made a difference because i was really really pissed. I wanted to calm down for a few minutes before i wrote that woman an e-mail


Also
[quote] Get a clue and grow up on Mommy and Daddy's money and Our serving childrens freedom they give you.[/quote]

DOn't you ever fucking talk about me or my family again. You don't know shit about me so don't act like you do. I have not said anything offensive to you yet but you obviously have a problem with me. It was clear from the other thread when you said that I post in every thread. Just f...ing tell me what you have against me in a civilized way.

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I know you were upset BSB (and rightfully so) but let it go now. I'm not [I]asking [/I] you

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bsb, to me it seems like you have gone out of your way to be more then civil to sbf. but in his threads, if you don't agree, the f bombs start flying. i support each and every one of those young men and women that sacrifice their lives daily, to insure my freedoms. how they got to Iraq is a different story. but i want them all to come home safely, as if they were my own children. i don't understand all the hostility towards people that disagree with your opinions?

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and mike, you are way out of line threatening a 19 year old kid

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SBF and BSB have been addressed in private. Let's get back to the original intent of this thread

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so smooty, how's the weather up there?

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Obviously some people here are incapable of engaging in civil and thoughtful discussion without resorting to childish threats and immature name calling.

For those that can however, carry on. Let's not let one bad apple ruin the bunch.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;326397]Obviously some people here are incapable of engaging in civil and thoughtful discussion without resorting to childish threats and immature name calling.

For those that can however, carry on. Let's not let one bad apple ruin the bunch.[/QUOTE]

Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

[email]thehedricks2@comcast.net[/email] for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike

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Website for those interested in helping out soldiers and their families.



[url=http://www.fallenheroesmemorial.com/links.html]Fallen Heroes Memorial: Links[/url]

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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;325458]A poster got me thinking that yes we should remember the fallen heros if we are going to remember Birthdays and other things.

I lost a fellow Woodbridger this last week. I don't know him or his family but my heart goes out to them.




Not sure if photo will work.
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Yes I saw this on the news as well. I attended all four years of High School at Gar-Field. Likewise I did not know him or his family, but my brother and alot of my high school friends still live there. It is just like losing one of your own when it hits that close to home. I too would like to send my condolences to his family.

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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;326420]Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

[EMAIL="thehedricks2@comcast.net"]thehedricks2@comcast.net[/EMAIL] for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike[/quote]
SBF, e-mailed at 11:11 with e-mail address starting with viz___

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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;326420]Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

[EMAIL="thehedricks2@comcast.net"]thehedricks2@comcast.net[/EMAIL] for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike[/quote]

Thanks for making my point.

~shakes head and walks away.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;326449]Thanks for making my point.

~shakes head and walks away.[/QUOTE]

Amazing isn't it?

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[IMG]http://www.fototime.com/4946F35021BB67B/orig.jpg[/IMG][quote=angryssg;326435]Yes I saw this on the news as well. I attended all four years of High School at Gar-Field. Likewise I did not know him or his family, but my brother and alot of my high school friends still live there. It is just like losing one of your own when it hits that close to home. I too would like to send my condolences to his family.[/quote]

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But to be honest, to me they are all local.

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In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;326693]In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.[/QUOTE]

That's a great post. And you've been there so no one can say you don't know what you're talking about.

Good job Angry

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[quote=angryssg;326693]In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.[/quote]

This is well stated. The thing we must avoid, regardless of our opinions on the war, is what happened after Vietnam. After Vietnam many returning soldiers faced either 1.) open hostility from SOME who oppossed the war or 2.) awkward silence from those who generally supported the war but were tired of the whole thing by then. These attitudes were pervasive in the culture for several years. I could go into the whole "Deer Hunter" thing, blah, blah. Anyone my age or older who was paying attention knows what I mean. The military and military people were not widely treated with respect again until the early 1980s or so. I remember my father seeing an airline advert that featured a young soldier going home or something (this was in the 80s) and commenting on the fact that it represented a real shift in popular sentiment or at least the sentiments of Mad Avenue at the time. The fact that no one feels comfortable blaming the soldiers is some progress at least.

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Good post angryssg! And thank you for serving are great nation.
Here is a page with a picture and caption of all the soldiers that have paid the ultimate price for us in Iraq.
We should not ever forget them.
[url=http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/2007.07.html]Forces: U.S. & Coalition/Casualties - Special Reports[/url]

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I support the troops, those who are present and those who have past. I love them with all my heart and it pains me to see so many of them die at such a young age.

I want to bring to your attention to [URL="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/24/america/NA-FEA-GEN-US-Coming-Home-Wounded-Worst.php"]Joseph Briseno Jr[/URL], a true hero whose pain I can not begin to imagine. His family is in need of financial support as they have exsusted all their savings to care for Jay. If anyone in here is interested in donating to the family please let me know. I am willing to match all donation up to $500.

[URL="http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/america_at_war/article/0,1426,MCA_945_5610765,00.html"]Joseph Briseno Sr.[/URL], father of Joseph Briseno Jr., can be reached via e-mail, [email]brisenojoseph@hotmail.com[/email], or by writing them at 9304 Jan St., Manassas Park, Va. 20111.

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Getting back to the purpose of the thread...

One of the best charities out there now is called the Freedom Alliance. 100% of their money goes to help send kids of our lost heroes to college on scholarships. It's the least we can do. Often the kids are forgotten after memorial services. They're missing a parent and perhaps the opportunity to afford college to make a future for themselves.

I've donated and would hope everyone else considers it, irregardless of political preferences and views on the war.

[url=http://www.freedomalliance.org/fa/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=7&Itemid=15]Freedom Alliance - Scholarship Fund[/url]


***Thanks for serving for us, angryssg. I sincerely mean thank you. My great grandfather, grandfather and father all served in WWI, WWII and Vietnam. I have the heart to serve but due to physical issues, I can't. I feel guilty about it sometimes and wish I could fulfill my duties, but since I can't I just do as much as possible to support those who are serving in my place and I want to make sure you guys know you are appreciated. I guess this willingness but not ability to be in the military is why I so passionately support and even defend you guys when you're not here to speak for yourselves.

I've tried to get into the DoD or a civilian service position so I can feel like I'm really doing more to contribute, but that job search is still ongoing. :)







By the way, I have to say one more thing about the previous bru-ha-ha. BSB just said I made a political statement...if you had read my previous posts BSB, I was saying to put politics aside. If you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you. I've said all I'll say in this stupid argument. We need to honor and support our troops. If you can't, leave the thread and find one that you won't derail.

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[QUOTE=Buster;327066]By the way, I have to say one more thing about the previous bru-ha-ha. BSB just said I made a political statement...if you had read my previous posts BSB, I was saying to put politics aside. If you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you. I've said all I'll say in this stupid argument. We need to honor and support our troops. If you can't, leave the thread and find one that you won't derail.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't leave well enough alone could you?

BSB, no need to respond to these comments. We all know, as you've stated, of your honor and support of the troops

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Yawn, again they try to start something. Like I said if you want to talk about it, please stop putting this thread off on tangents and open a new thread. Post #17 by buster clearly instigated a response and if those statements are allowed to be said statements that disagree are also allowed to be said. Also buster, you spoke of congress in your second post. I don't care what your first post was but your subsequent posts made me respond. Matty may have put the thread on a tangent but appologized (#16) and Buster continued to do so.

Now i ask if you want to say anymore, make another thread.

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bsb, why are you getting all the personal attacks? you have been around here for quite some time, and maybe have earned alittle more respect then you are being given. i think your recent posts have been well thought out, and just because you are disagreeing with someone, doesn't make you the bad guy. i don't get all the hostility over a disagreement in thinking

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See SS, its another instant where you should have probably locked the thread right after I posted.

Just a joke guys, do not get your panties in a ruffle.

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[quote=SmootSmack;327085]Couldn't leave well enough alone could you?

[/quote]

Simply responding to an incorrect statement made about me by BSB while I was offline.

So one person can do that but not another?

I guess only if I'm following the "popular" train of thought...




It's still a shame people can't just post supportive statements or leave this thread alone if they don't agree with it's premise. Some things should be above politics and popularity polls taken by people we can't trust anyways. It really is a great thread started with the best intentions.

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I really don't feel like going over this here but what incorrect statement was that?

My only point was that both sides of the arguement were posting political posts yet SBF only yelled at one side of the arguement for putting it onto something else. You posted a political post. It doesn't matter if it was your first or second or third post.
[quote]By the way, I have to say one more thing about the previous bru-ha-ha. BSB just said I made a political statement...if you had read my previous posts BSB, I was saying to put politics aside. If you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you. I've said all I'll say in this stupid argument. We need to honor and support our troops. If you can't, leave the thread and find one that you won't derail.[/quote]Break down your post. Your first real statement was that you first post was with good intentions, thats great. But you say it implying that i should have seen that and decided because of that your next post didn't matter. That doesn't make any sense at all like i said. Doesn't matter if it was your first post or 5th. Then you take that as you being able to keep politics aside and turn the arguement to me and therefore distancing yourself from blame. That is a great debate tactic by the way but it is illogical because i responded to a political post by you. The post itself is completely illogical.

Again, i am just defending myself. You said i made an incorrect statement about you. That isn't true.

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[QUOTE=Buster;327174]Simply responding to an incorrect statement made about me by BSB while I was offline.

So one person can do that but not another?

I guess only if I'm following the "popular" train of thought...




It's still a shame people can't just post supportive statements or leave this thread alone if they don't agree with it's premise. Some things should be above politics and popularity polls taken by people we can't trust anyways. It really is a great thread started with the best intentions.[/QUOTE]

Let me remind you: [url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/326373-post47.html[/url]

So don't think we're taking one-side on the issue. There is no "popular" train of thought.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;327140]See SS, its another instant where you should have probably locked the thread right after I posted.

Just a joke guys, do not get your panties in a ruffle.[/QUOTE]

Panties with ruffles are HOT!





No seriously, THey are hot. My balls are sweaty

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BSB and Buster, take your issues off this thread. Start your own thread if you must. Let's keep the original purpose of this thread intact. This the last warning.