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[QUOTE=#56fanatic;347157]dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?[/QUOTE]

I agree the Eagles have been doing great lately while the Skins have been terrible for 10+ years. There is no reason for anyone to be high on the skins until they actually do something. Have the skins put pieces in place, yes. However the skins never seem to figure out how to get it done while the Eagles keep winning titles and going deep into the playoffs. When the skins start showing they are a real contender rather than an offseason wonder then they will get support until then dont expect more than what is being said.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;347110]I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.[/QUOTE]

i can honestly say that the espn coverage of the races stinks as well.
for stink he can keep stinking it up with those so called experts at espn.,i mean it really says alot to be sean,s right hand man,lol.

i,m just glad he treats his former bronco coach like a god ......

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;347093]he said the skins would finish last in the nfc east this year cause they had "made no real changes on Defense."he went on to kiss the asses of wade phillips and donovan mcnab,and said the poke and eagles would be super bowl contenders.i can't friggin' believe this prick was ever a redskin.let's start a petition to get his name removed from the roster of past redskins!!!!i wish i knew where the asshole live so i could go take a dump on his GD doorstep![/QUOTE]lololol...yea let me save up a couple a weeks worth of crap for him and let me know when u are going to take a dump on his front porch.....toooo funny....great reply

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Maybe there's a reason why he called "stink" and not,.......Einstein??
BTW, I really like Jolly stomped. Before today is out, somebody is getting Jolly Stomped!...............I like that

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It really is amusing to see people get all riled up over what some commentator says. Fact is, Mark provides great insight most of the time, and he's good at what he does. Do I agree with his prediction...absolutely not! But you can't be right about every team every time. You try predicting for every single team and see how well you do by seasons end.
He'll be wrong about the Skins as will Sean Salsbury saying we will have 8 wins (we'll have 10 min.). But don't dog the man cause he thinks the skins will lose. Use common sense.

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[quote=Hog1;347455]Maybe there's a reason why he called "stink" and not,.......Einstein??
BTW, I really like Jolly stomped. Before today is out, somebody is getting Jolly Stomped!...............I like that[/quote]

I like it too, I was thinking it would be a good nickname for our D; the Jolly Stomping Skins D. But I somehow doubt it'll catch on.

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ps- Clayton has us as a super sleeper!

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The iggles & the Giants have noticeable weaknesses, and they both start w/the LBs. I'd say the Eagles took more steps to upgrade & have developed their own talent to replace old, e.g. Trotter.

The g-men also have coaching & chemistry issues that go deeper than football. Will it bring them together or will they fall apart? I don't see more than 8 wins as likely for them.

The eagles are not nearly as talented on D as in years past. They had trouble stopping the run last year. They could have a winning season, but I think last year they overachieved & will correct that statistically this year.

That said, I really feel we have a shot at the division, but I would have to give the overall edge at this point to Dallas, based solely on talent, not coaching, chemistry, etc.

I can't blame Stink for his prediction alone, but like many said he should note the changes that were made. All any analyst needs to say is that this is a team w/a young qb who isn't proven yet.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;347110]I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. [B]The Nascar coverage rules, though[/B].[/QUOTE]

Amen to that comment. The HD broadcast is friggin' increadible! Sucks that Joe Gibbs teams will be driving Toyotas though. Sorry, this post belongs somewhere NASCAR related...Anyway, I must agree with some others that the Redskins simply have not done enough to garner a glowing review, much less a positive prediction. Yes, they've made strides this off-season, but they've done this before and fallen flat. Until they start blowing people off the ball (sorry Senator Craig), they'll never get respect.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;347477]Amen to that comment. The HD broadcast is friggin' increadible! Sucks that Joe Gibbs teams will be driving Toyotas though. Sorry, this post belongs somewhere NASCAR related...Anyway, I must agree with some others that the Redskins simply have not done enough to garner a glowing review, much less a positive prediction. Yes, they've made strides this off-season, but they've done this before and fallen flat. Until they start blowing people off the ball (sorry Senator Craig), they'll never get respect.[/quote]

Also, while we're giving props to ESPN, the duece had an awesome 30 minute documentary on last night about Hank Williams Jr. Bravo! They gave the inside scoop on everything you need to know about Hank Jr.'s long-standing relationship with Monday Night Football. For instance, we learn that Hank was originally recruited to do the opening after a phone call from one of the ABC producers to Hank's agent! You can't make that stuff up. I haven't seen such a powerful documentary since The Civil War first premiered on PBS. Can anybody say "Cable Ace Award"?.

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eagles will with the division............if Kolb can take them there. McNabb will be hurt by week 7

GO SKINS

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I know this has been said but i'm kinda sick of hearing how the skins aren't getting any pub, no respect, etc.

The reason we are not getting picked by alot of so called experts is that we were 5-11 last year!! Not too good as The Ole Ball Coach would say.

Now, we all know that we've upgraded in a few areas and i think one can be pretty sure we'll be better but there are some major unanswered questions about this team.

No. 1...Can JC continue to improve and have a good year?

No. 2...Can our D stop anyone (last year we couldn't)?

No one knows the answer so the easy response by "analysts" is they were 5-11 last year so they'll struggle again this year.

Most former skins are critical as not to been seen as a homer i would think too.

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I have never had much regard for Schlerths football knowledge, especially when he jumps on the Wade Phillips band wagon, since when is wade a coaching icon? The boy's lost one of the all time great coaches, replaced him with a guy who is nothing more than a coordinator and they are supposed to be better this year? I don't see it.

As for our analogy, what has Gibbs done the past 3 years to warrant the belief that we are playoff bound? We have issues on the O-line, and a first full year starting QB with I might add a real problem if he gets injured for any significant time this season for lack of a backup who can win games.

The only thing I believe we can hang our hats on this up coming season is our defense, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of the 2005 season when the defense carried this team to the playoffs and hid a lot of our lack offensive ability. Yes we are more talented on offense this year but will it really make a big difference? Gibbs has put all his eggs in 1 basket in Campbell, if he's not the goods we are a last place team.

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i dont care if we lose 15 games this season as long as we beat the patriots

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[quote=70Chip;347252]I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.[/quote]


The Eagles have been one of the best teams in the NFC for how many years?? out of anyone in our division they deserve the most respect and most props and hype before the season. They have won the division how many years in a row, nfc champs how many years in a row. to say they are not any good is just homerish. how anyone can say the Eagles are down and out is beyond me. they have not done anything to suggest that. put down the bugandy shades dude and look at it clearly.

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[quote=Rock Your Face;347325]I do not have a problem with Stink's comments in that the Eagles and the Cowgirls are the two best teams in the division. I do take exception to two things he said:

1) That the Giants will finish better than the 'Skins this year.
2) That McNabb will be healthy all year. I would love to know on what basis he formed that opinion; Donovan's recent past history would certainly seem to indicate that he will be lucky to play in more than 10 or 11 games this year.

In regards to predictions overall:

If I remember correctly, before last year the MSM was all over the Skins's collective nuts and talking about how great their off-season acquisitions were and how good they would be. I believe during that stupid ESPN rate the whole NFL by position group and overall team things, they had the 'Skins being the 3rd the best team in the NFL. Obviously they were wrong. These guys make predictions to feed our country's insatiable appetite for everything NFL.

Now going completely against what I just said, both Jaws, who watches more film than any analyst and Football Prospectus, which uses a ton of statical analysis, predicted a good year for the 'Skins. So I take that as a good sign.[/quote]


here is an example of what I say on this board. people go against the skins, they are idiots, someone who says they will be good, and they are the know all be all in the NFL. did you see the NFC east last year? 3 teams made the playoffs. Now of the four in our division, which one did NOT make the playoffs?? right, the skins. what makes you think they would put any of those 3 behind the skins. why should they be?

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[quote=jsarno;347466]ps- Clayton has us as a super sleeper![/quote]


so i guess Clayton is the smartest and most knowledgable NFL analyst there is right?

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[quote=#56fanatic;347562]The Eagles have been one of the best teams in the NFC for how many years?? out of anyone in our division they deserve the most respect and most props and hype before the season. They have won the division how many years in a row, nfc champs how many years in a row. to say they are not any good is just homerish. how anyone can say the Eagles are down and out is beyond me. they have not done anything to suggest that. put down the bugandy shades dude and look at it clearly.[/quote]

I'll look at it however I want. They've won the division exactly one years in a row. The Eagles will stop winning at some point. I say its this year. And don't call me dude.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;347482]Also, while we're giving props to ESPN, the duece had an awesome 30 minute documentary on last night about Hank Williams Jr. Bravo! They gave the inside scoop on everything you need to know about Hank Jr.'s long-standing relationship with Monday Night Football. For instance, we learn that Hank was originally recruited to do the opening after a phone call from one of the ABC producers to Hank's agent! You can't make that stuff up. I haven't seen such a powerful documentary since The Civil War first premiered on PBS. Can anybody say "Cable Ace Award"?.[/QUOTE]

As part of the right to telecast such properties as NBA, NASCAR, and NFL ESPN is contractually obliged to televise a certain number of hours of programming provided by their production houses. Such was the case for this Hank Williams show.

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[quote=SmootSmack;347579]As part of the right to telecast such properties as NBA, NASCAR, and NFL ESPN is contractually obliged to televise a certain number of hours of programming provided by their production houses. Such was the case for this Hank Williams show.[/quote]

Thank God those contractual obligations exist because this program was an absolute delight. Does anyone know when it will be on again?

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[quote=#56fanatic;347567]so i guess Clayton is the smartest and most knowledgable NFL analyst there is right?[/quote]

He's pretty good wouldn't you say?

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[QUOTE=70Chip;347595]Thank God those contractual obligations exist because this program was an absolute delight. Does anyone know when it will be on again?[/QUOTE]

Not on the schedule for the foreseeable future...so you can find something else to bitch about

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[quote=offiss;347512] As for our analogy, what has Gibbs done the past 3 years to warrant the belief that we are playoff bound? [B]We have issues on the O-line,[/B] and a first full year starting QB with I might add a real problem if he gets injured for any significant time this season for lack of a backup who can win games.

The only thing I believe we can hang our hats on this up coming season is our defense, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of the 2005 season when the defense carried this team to the playoffs and hid a lot of our lack offensive ability. Yes we are more talented on offense this year but will it really make a big difference? [B]Gibbs has put all his eggs in 1 basket in Campbell, if he's not the goods we are a last place team[/B].[/quote]


I think whether we have legitimate issues on the offensive line really remains to be seen. Unless Chris Samuels has completely fallen apart and Pete Kendall is a bust, then I would agree. But that scenerio doesn't exist. Concern, yes. Issues, no. We'll be fine on the offensive line.

Certainly Gibbs is putting all of his eggs in one basket with Campbell, but what coach isn't with their first string quarterback? Same could be said of Indy, the Pats, Bengals, ummm Dallas....and the list goes on and on. Hell, Cleveland is flipping coins from one week to the next to figure out who their quarterback is! Talk about finishing last, now that's a classic example.

If we live or die with Jason Campbell, I'm fine with that. As long as we do more living than dying.

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[quote=12thMan;347608]I think whether we have legitimate issues on the offensive line really remains to be seen. Unless Chris Samuels has completely fallen apart and Pete Kendall is a bust, then I would agree. But that scenerio doesn't exist. Concern, yes. Issues, no. We'll be fine on the offensive line.

[B] Certainly Gibbs is putting all of his eggs in one basket with Campbell, but what coach isn't with their first string quarterback?[/B] Same could be said of Indy, the Pats, Bengals, ummm Dallas....and the list goes on and on. Hell, Cleveland is flipping coins from one week to the next to figure out who their quarterback is! Talk about finishing last, now that's a classic example.

[B] If we live or die with Jason Campbell, I'm fine with that. As long as we do more living than dying.[/B][/quote]

Seriously, isn't this exactly what we've wanted since the beginning of last season?? The switch and full commitment to the future in Jason Campbell??!! Now it's hear and people are still griping. I don't get it.

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There will be griping until there are wins. As good as Jason looked last year, he didn't win. I know he didn't have a defense to play with and he did look good but there are always going to be doubters when your team goes 5-11 the year before.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;347624]Seriously, isn't this exactly what we've wanted since the beginning of last season?? The switch and full commitment to the future in Jason Campbell??!! Now it's hear and people are still griping. I don't get it.[/QUOTE]

It's about not having anything behind Campbell, not every teams season is shot if the starter goes down, especially on a team with a coach who doesn't ask the QB to win the game just don't lose it, we know that doesn't work from watching Brunell for 3 years, Campbell is going to have to win games but not in the manor of a Peyton Manning etc. but he will have to make play's which Brunell has proven he can't. We have no one who can play a legitimate backup role, we should already have a young, up and coming QB who is learning this system, not a has been, and a never was. If Campbell goes down it's over, and we don't know even if he stays healthy if he has what it takes to win in the NFL? I believe everyone is elated that Brunell is on the bench and Campbell is starting but we have no contingency plan if he goes down. Gibbs IMO has failed miserably on building depth at the most important position on the field, the QB.