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GTripp0012 01-28-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=Buster;414393]I think Snyder sold most of our members' brains.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous threads EVER.[/quote]If he turned a profit on that, he's probably the greatest salesman ever.

MTK 01-28-2008 03:21 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;414396]If he turned a profit on that, he's probably the greatest salesman ever.[/quote]

LOL well played

evan 01-28-2008 03:23 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
I cant agree more, the skins are a laughfing stock and they will always be with Danny boy and his racket ball buddy calling the shots. Gibbbs always said were in this together well he jumped ship and left his coordnaitors behind and now the team is a complete mess. Im starting to think that snyder might of forced gibbs out seeing how he fired Williams and Saunders..

Monkeydad 01-28-2008 03:25 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;414396]If he turned a profit on that, he's probably the greatest salesman ever.[/quote]


For sale: 137 Warpath Member brains, very low miles but may have factory defects and they need rebuilt. Most have leaky gaskets. Best (or any) offer will be accepted.

Monkeydad 01-28-2008 03:26 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=evan;414404]I cant agree more, the skins are a laughfing stock and they will always be with Danny boy and his racket ball buddy calling the shots. Gibbbs always said were in this together well he jumped ship and left his coordnaitors behind and now the team is a complete mess. Im starting to think that snyder might of forced gibbs out seeing how he fired Williams and Saunders..[/quote]



HA HA....LOOK AT THEM, LOSING IN THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN! THEY'RE SO PATHETIC!

724Skinsfan 01-28-2008 03:35 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=evan;414404]I cant agree more, the skins are a laughfing stock and they will always be with Danny boy and his racket ball buddy calling the shots. Gibbbs always said were in this together well he jumped ship and left his coordnaitors behind and now the team is a complete mess. [B]Im starting to think that snyder might of forced gibbs out[/B] seeing how he fired Williams and Saunders..[/quote]


DS: "Listen to me, Gibbs! I want you to resign. You are going to go spend more friggin' time with your family. Do you hear me!"

JG: "Aw shucks, Danny, don't force me out with a weak excuse like that. I'm not really big into doing things with my family."

skinsguy 01-28-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
We need to up the anti-depressant medication I'm afraid. There is no comparison between the Lions and the Redskins. That is ridiculous.

CrazyCanuck 01-28-2008 03:44 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
Gotta love the Warpath.

One thread compares us to the Lions, while another explains why we need to use our draft picks on receivers.

Dirtbag59 01-28-2008 03:47 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
Die Troll Die!!! :bdh:

SKINSnCANES 01-28-2008 03:52 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;414333]The Skins haven't been an elite team in quite some time, but they certainly haven't been quite as bad as the Detroits and Arizonas of the NFL world. Last time I checked neither of those teams made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons.[/quote]

but if you look at the last five years we either made the playoffs, or we had a top 10 pick. its not like we are a consistent team that is always on the verge of making the playoffs at 8-8. its like 5 wins total, or five in a row at the end to make the playoffs...

I know we made the playoffs two out of the last three years, and you cant ignore that, but I would say that we are similar to both Arizona and Detroit in that we are always the sleeper pick, or people think its out year becuase of free agents and top ten draft picks. we just were more fortunate to get big wins late in the year those two years.

what about the last 15 years? we made the playoffs three times. I wonder about those two, ill try and look it up later

DynamiteRave 01-28-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=skinsguy;414420]We need to up the anti-depressant medication I'm afraid. There is no comparison between the Lions and the Redskins. That is ridiculous.[/quote]

Duhhhh. We aren't the Lions, we're the Dolphins! (No offense Finslady). We might as well just admit the fact that we are absolutely going to crash and burn next season even though we have decent players and potentially a decent staff. We might as well just quit the NFL and not play a game next season because there's obviously no way a team that made it to the playoffs this season, is going to make it next season, especially under a new HC, OC and DC. Forget that we came from being a shitty team to a playoff team in a matter of a few years. We have no continuity, which automatically means: We suck. Damn yous, Redskins organization! Damn yous!

[SIZE=1](Note: This post is dripping with sarcasm) :)[/SIZE]

SKINSnCANES 01-28-2008 04:05 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=skinsguy;414420]We need to up the anti-depressant medication I'm afraid. There is no comparison between the Lions and the Redskins. That is ridiculous.[/quote]


why because they drafted a lot of receivers? two of which were busts

"Since drafting Art Monk (first round, 1980) and Charlie Brown (eighth round, 1981), the Redskins have not had a great deal of success in drafting wide receivers. The rest of the 1980s included relative unknowns in Curtland Thomas and Eric Yarber. The 1990s included high-profile picks Desmond Howard and Michael Westbrook, neither of whom made a long-term impact. (Keenan McCardell was selected in the 12th round of the 1991 draft, but he played sparingly for the Redskins.) In recent years, Rod Gardner, Darnerien McCants and Taylor Jacobs were among selections at wide receiver. "

theres our track record on drafting receivers...

or because we had two years in the last five with winning records and they didnt.In 03 we were both 5-11, in 2004 we were both 6-10. In 2005 we were 10-6 while they were only 5-11. In 2006 we were killed them with a 5-11 record, they only had three wins...then this year we had two more wins after they fell apart with a 6-2 start.

But youre right, we have nothing in common. they have a horrible GM. We dotn have a GM so technically our GM has never made a bad signing. Though if you look at whatever the hell Vinnys title he, Im pretty sure hes signed a free agent or two that turned out to be overpayed and under performed.

we both rotate coachs as if you only get a one year contract (over the last ten years).

and sadly, they have had less starting qbs than us too...

Im not sayign we are the same team, but if everyone is going to just keep bashing peoples comments lets put some reasons behind it. There are plenty of reasons why we are different, try doing some research

Monksdown 01-28-2008 04:06 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
This opening thread is stream of consciousness garbage. There are no hard facts that draw any correlation between the Lions and the Redskins. In fact, i'll argue the one i was sort of able to pull out of the mud. You compared the national sports fan reaction to our drafts as comparable to that of Detroits drafts?? I don't understand, our biggest criticism has been the fact that we're never actually in the draft. We all know that since 99 we have dished our draft picks in the wrong trades. Detroit hasnt done that, they've just drafted the wrong guys. I think the few draft picks we've had, we've made the most of.

Again, draw some more connections for me. Something other than your opinion that we currently suck, and your opinion that Detroit currently sucks. I need something a touch more concrete.

DynamiteRave 01-28-2008 04:12 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
I don't understand why the correlation to the Lions? I'm sure you could compare and contrast the Skins with any team if you tried hard enough.

Sounds like people are just trying to find things to bitch about now.

BaltimoreSkins 01-28-2008 04:14 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P;414342]Since the Cowboys last Super Bowl appearance, they haven't even won a playoff game. Thats one less than the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

We actually have two more than the cokeboys. '99 and '05. Ironically one of them was Detroit

firstdown 01-28-2008 04:14 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
No we are the Redskins. A good way to tell them apart is that we have an indians face on our stuff and the lions. Well, they have a Lion on their stuff.

SmootSmack 01-28-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
We're probably laughed at more so for having such dumb fans. Seriously, I bet DynamiteRave feels like she's that girl from the Thriller trapped as zombies close in all around her. Except, instead of a pack of zombies it's a bunch of morons.

(there's a song here, I know it)

skinsguy 01-28-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;414456]why because they drafted a lot of receivers? two of which were busts

"Since drafting Art Monk (first round, 1980) and Charlie Brown (eighth round, 1981), the Redskins have not had a great deal of success in drafting wide receivers. The rest of the 1980s included relative unknowns in Curtland Thomas and Eric Yarber. The 1990s included high-profile picks Desmond Howard and Michael Westbrook, neither of whom made a long-term impact. (Keenan McCardell was selected in the 12th round of the 1991 draft, but he played sparingly for the Redskins.) In recent years, Rod Gardner, Darnerien McCants and Taylor Jacobs were among selections at wide receiver. "

theres our track record on drafting receivers...

or because we had two years in the last five with winning records and they didnt.In 03 we were both 5-11, in 2004 we were both 6-10. In 2005 we were 10-6 while they were only 5-11. In 2006 we were killed them with a 5-11 record, they only had three wins...then this year we had two more wins after they fell apart with a 6-2 start.

But youre right, we have nothing in common. they have a horrible GM. We dotn have a GM so technically our GM has never made a bad signing. Though if you look at whatever the hell Vinnys title he, Im pretty sure hes signed a free agent or two that turned out to be overpayed and under performed.

we both rotate coachs as if you only get a one year contract (over the last ten years).

and sadly, they have had less starting qbs than us too...

Im not sayign we are the same team, but if everyone is going to just keep bashing peoples comments lets put some reasons behind it. There are plenty of reasons why we are different, try doing some research[/QUOTE]

Oh please, stop with all of that. If you feel fine comparing the Redskins to the Lions, by all means, go right ahead. However, I need not do any research because I am not comparing them to a franchise that has never been in the Super Bowl. It's all ridiculous and just shows that Redskins "fans" aren't happy unless they're whining about something.

SKINSnCANES 01-28-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
I dont acutally think we are like the Lions, I was just calling you out for saying there is no comparisson because Im tired of everyone else whinning and writing comments that just bash other peoples opinion and give no reason. So if you just wrote that because youre tired of people whinning too then tooche.

firstdown 01-28-2008 04:45 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
I like the argument that we have too much turn over like Snyder fired Gibbs.

skinsguy 01-28-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;414484]I dont acutally think we are like the Lions, I was just calling you out for saying there is no comparisson because Im tired of everyone else whinning and writing comments that just bash other peoples opinion and give no reason. So if you just wrote that because youre tired of people whinning too then tooche.[/QUOTE]


If you don't actually agree with the OP's opinion and agree with mine, then stop calling me out. That in itself is ridiculous.

GusFrerotte 01-28-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
No as a Skins fan stuck in Detroit, we are not the Lions yet, but the events that have transpired in the last several weeks have me worried that we may be heading in that direction. We played inspired ball for 4 weeks this season, but came up short against a better team in Seattle. The emotion of losing ST let the guys play above themselves til the big dance started, where real good teams shine. If the state of the NFC wasn't so bad, we would have stayed home this season. Hiring assistants before hiring the HC will only make sense if Snyder and the FO already have their man. If not, you are putting the new HC in a box by not letting him pick his own crew and letting open the distinct possiblity that he doesn't gel with his staff. I hope that Snyder already having his man is the case, or this might be another messed up post Gibbs era. Should have kept Marty maybe.

skinsnut 01-28-2008 05:45 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;414327]Why lump the Cowboys in with the Pats?

What does Jerry Jones do that Dan Snyder doesn't? More importantly, what does Jones do that Belichick/Pioli also do?[/QUOTE]

He drafts well

SKINSnCANES 01-28-2008 06:27 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy;414499]If you don't actually agree with the OP's opinion and agree with mine, then stop calling me out. That in itself is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

I dont agree with your original post, thats my point, it was a waste of everyones time to read that you think people need medication. But atleast you are consistent and use the word ridiculous in each post. I just agree that I dont like people whinning, which you were (you were just whinning about posters not the redskins)

I was trying to make amends with you, but I guess that was ridiculous

djnemo65 01-28-2008 06:28 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
This thread would have made more sense before Joe's return. Between 1992-2004 we were in the bottom five of the league in terms of losing, right there with Arizona, Detroit, and Cincinatti. Since Gibbs' return however the ship appears to have been righted to an extent. While we are not up there with NE and Indy we are solidly in the middle of the league and have two playoff appearances over the last three years, which is certainly respectable.

As for people laughing at us, if they aren't fans of one of the 8 teams who made it further than us this year I hope they aren't laughing too loudly.

Kronz21 01-28-2008 07:13 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
We are def on the way to laughing stock of the league. Why blow something up when everybody and their mother wanted it to stay the same and hire Williams. Snyder and Cerrato are making one mistake after another. I think Snyder will use Cerrato as a scapegoat if things do not work out.

DynamiteRave 01-28-2008 07:35 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=Kronz21;414562]We are def on the way to laughing stock of the league. Why blow something up when everybody and their mother wanted it to stay the same and hire Williams. Snyder and Cerrato are making one mistake after another. I think Snyder will use Cerrato as a scapegoat if things do not work out.[/quote]

But the thing is, while I did like the idea of continuity at first, I have sorta switched over to straddling the middle road in the sense that, maybe it could work. We haven't had any proof that it absolutely won't work. Saying we are the laughing stock of the league, I believe is a bit of a stretch.

But if we are, it's like the old saying goes, "Laugh now. Cry later."

rypper11 01-28-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
At the risk of sounding defensive, let me try to clarify what I was trying to say. I didn't intend for this to be a doom and gloom thread. Rather, I think the Skins have a great, rabid fan base (much like Cleveland, KC and yes, Detroit).
The Ford family spends money on players, coaches, FO, stadium amenities, training areas, practice fields and equipment. This completely differentiates them from the Cards. Unfortunately their spendetures and efforts have not translated into a whole lot of victories.

sportscurmudgeon 01-28-2008 07:56 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
Did the original post that got all of this started actually use the phrase "beautiful FedEx"? When did that happen?

skinsguy 01-28-2008 08:02 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;414545]I dont agree with your original post, thats my point, it was a waste of everyones time to read that you think people need medication. But atleast you are consistent and use the word ridiculous in each post. I just agree that I dont like people whinning, which you were (you were just whinning about posters not the redskins)

I was trying to make amends with you, but I guess that was ridiculous[/QUOTE]

I do not tolerate any type of condescending attitude from you or anybody. If there was some error in my original post, then a moderator would've let me know about it. Since you are not a moderator, I do not accept any chastisement you have for me. I ask you very nicely to refrain from anymore personal attacks.

DynamiteRave 01-28-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
This thread looks its heading into the direction of being banished to thread hell. :doh:

At least it'll give the Vince Young thread some company if it does. :D

GTripp0012 01-28-2008 08:05 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=skinsnut;414527]He drafts well[/quote]We draft well. Better actually.

SmootSmack 01-28-2008 08:38 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=rypper11;414578]At the risk of sounding defensive, let me try to clarify what I was trying to say. I didn't intend for this to be a doom and gloom thread. Rather, I think the Skins have a great, rabid fan base (much like Cleveland, KC and yes, Detroit).
The Ford family spends money on players, coaches, FO, stadium amenities, training areas, practice fields and equipment. This completely differentiates them from the Cards. Unfortunately their spendetures and efforts have not translated into a whole lot of victories.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the clarification. Makes a bit more sense now

SmootSmack 01-28-2008 08:39 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy;414583]I do not tolerate any type of condescending attitude from you or anybody. If there was some error in my original post, then a moderator would've let me know about it. Since you are not a moderator, I do not accept any chastisement you have for me. I ask you very nicely to refrain from anymore personal attacks.[/QUOTE].

Honestly I didn't read your first post. But let's just move on

GMScud 01-28-2008 08:53 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
No, we're the Washington Redskins. Say what you will about Snyder and Cerrato. I'll take them 8 days a week over Ford/Millen. I still can't believe they started 6-2 and wet the bed to a 7-9 record. Someone here said it, and if I remembered who I'd give them credit, but the Detroit Lions are built to lose. Perennially.

T.O.Killa 01-28-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
We are worse than Detroit, and Snyder a worse owner than Al Davis.

DynamiteRave 01-28-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;414624]We are worse than Detroit, and Snyder a worse owner than Al Davis.[/quote]

I think there's room for you on the Pats bandwagon.

skinsguy 01-28-2008 09:25 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
And here's my point in how ridiculous it is to compare the Lions to the Redskins. The Redskins have had 15 playoff wins since 1980, 5 Conference Championship appearances, 4 Conference Championships, 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl victories.

The Lions have had only one playoff win since 1980, 1 conference Championship appearance, 8 losses all in the wild card round, no Super Bowl appearances. Comparing just the last 10 years, the Lions had two playoff appearances, the Redskins had three. The Lions didn't win in either one of those playoff appearances, the Redskins have two victories.

There still cannot rightfully be any comparison between the two franchises.

GMScud 01-28-2008 09:28 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;414624]We are worse than Detroit, and Snyder a worse owner than Al Davis.[/quote]

Al Davis can barely walk, let alone make football decisions. Since they went to the Super Bowl 4 or 5 season back, they have the league's worst winning percentage- 23.8%. Detroit isn't far behind. How is Snyder a worse owner than Al Davis? Or the Ford/Millen joke in Detroit for that matter?

Beemnseven 01-28-2008 09:52 PM

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 
[QUOTE=skinsguy;414635]And here's my point in how ridiculous it is to compare the Lions to the Redskins. The Redskins have had 15 playoff wins since 1980, 5 Conference Championship appearances, 4 Conference Championships, 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl victories.[/QUOTE]

Since 1993, the Redskins have a whopping 8 more victories than the Lions over that same time span.


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