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Leave it to ESPN to fire a clown and replace him with a jacka*s...

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We've got to give ESPN some credit. They do produce some damn good shows and do employ some pretty outstanding individuals, such as John Clayton and our very own Smootsmack. I don't care for Carter either, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;426604]We've got to give ESPN some credit. They do produce some damn good shows and do employ some pretty outstanding individuals, such as John Clayton and our very own Smootsmack. I don't care for Carter either, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Don't forget EEich and DGreene28. They do some pretty damn good work here as well. But look, just about everyone of us has good and bad coworkers and can say both positive and negative things about our companies. Just so happens mine is under a bigger microscope here and it's fun to pick on the big guys.

I wish we had done better than Carter but he's just one person here. And who knows, he may surprise us all.

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Aw shucks.

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The Worldwide Leader in Sports... ahem.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426613]Thanks. Don't forget EEich and DGreene28. They do some pretty damn good work here as well. But look, just about everyone of us has good and bad coworkers and can say both positive and negative things about our companies. Just so happens mine is under a bigger microscope here and it's fun to pick on the big guys.

I wish we had done better than Carter but he's just one person here. And who knows, he may surprise us all.[/QUOTE]

I am sure that a large % of ESPN's employees are excellent at what they do, but they have certainly made some questionable hires when it comes to on air NFL talent. I mean they hired Emmit Smith and he can barely get out a sentence. I know you work there Smoot and your in a tough spot to criticize people directly but you have to shake your head at it in general.

On a positive note, I think Jaws is the best in the business so it's not all bad.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;426558]Salisbury fired for showing some woman his penis, and Isiah Thomas costs his company $11,000,000.00 and still has his job. go figure?[/QUOTE]

Isiah Thomas = Hall of famer
Sean Salisbury = a journeyman with no clear talent, and a seemingly bad attitude.

Just goes to show you what people will forgive if you've acheived something.

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Sean Salisbury is a douche but that is funny

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[QUOTE=celts32;426661]I am sure that a large % of ESPN's employees are excellent at what they do, but they have certainly made some questionable hires when it comes to on air NFL talent. I mean they hired Emmit Smith and he can barely get out a sentence. I know you work there Smoot and your in a tough spot to criticize people directly but you have to shake your head at it in general.

On a positive note, I think Jaws is the best in the business so it's not all bad.[/QUOTE]

Sure they've made some questionable hires (Emmitt on-air is abysmal) and those are usually more scrutinized than the solid under the radar hires they make. I don't know where you work, but you mean to tell me that ESPN is the only place that makes questionable hires? Of course not.

But I don't see why I have to shake my head at it in general.

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I've always liked Cris as a 3rd, or 4th commentator kind of guy...

I can handle him in small doses, and hopefully they'll realize that.

The problem is when they promote him to "The Guy", he just seems to ramble on. Maybe it's just that my ADD can't handle it. I don't know.

Personally, I wasn't mortified by Salisbury... he wasn't horrible and I couldn't care less about his personal life (bring Marv Albert in!).

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426682]Sure they've made some questionable hires (Emmitt on-air is abysmal) and those are usually more scrutinized than the solid under the radar hires they make. I don't know where you work, but you mean to tell me that ESPN is the only place that makes questionable hires? Of course not.

But I don't see why I have to shake my head at it in general.[/QUOTE]

I work for a broker dealer in the investment management business. And yes my company makes questionable hires from time to time...and they are not scrutinized publicly like at ESPN. I may have phrased what i meant poorly...I did not mean to imply that you should shake your head at ESPN in general. I just don't understand how anyone can listen to Emmit Smith talk and think he would make a good on camera NFL hire? I would personally shake my head at that decision and blame the person who hired him because anyone can see after listening to him for 20 seconds that he is not suited for that line of work.

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Smart and articulate I have wondered why Charles Mann has never been given a chance at broadcasting.

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just watched nfl live, and Quadry Ismail( sp?) was on. he is god awful

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i figured it,s up too espn anyways so another expert bites the dust.....oh sean did pretty well i thought but maybe it was time since clayton couldn,t deal with him during their one on one clashes....

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[QUOTE=Skinsfan1967;426787]Smart and articulate I have wondered why Charles Mann has never been given a chance at broadcasting.[/QUOTE]

I love Charles Mann. I consider him a friend...but he really struggles on camera. It doesn't come naturally to him at all.

I think Gmanc is a big Qadry fan

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[quote=dmek25;426796]just watched nfl live, and Quadry Ismail( sp?) was on. he is god awful[/quote]

can't be worse than Tim Hardaway doing NBA on TNT!

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Anyone remember Seth Joyners work on NFL Network? He was one of the first people they hired when they started the network a few years back. He just mumbled. The worst I have ever seen including all the sports. Made everyone mentioned on this thread look like a seasoned professional.

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[quote=SmootSmack;426682]Sure they've made some questionable hires (Emmitt on-air is abysmal) and those are usually more scrutinized than the solid under the radar hires they make. I don't know where you work, but you mean to tell me that ESPN is the only place that makes questionable hires? Of course not.

But I don't see why I have to shake my head at it in general.[/quote]


but you've got to admit, it is different. i work for a small grading company. my employers make bad decisions all the time but nobody knows except for the 15 people that work there. when espn makes a bad decision, like the one we're discussing, millions of people know about it. you would think espn would want to put people in front of the camara that the majority of the viewers are going to like. imo, jim rome,steven a smith,sean salisbury,and chris carter are all bad choices. i can understand trying emmit smith out because he is a very likable guy.

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Charles Bakley is the best player to TV personality that I've seen. If the NFL could find an equivelant then that would be great, but no one comes to mind.

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins;426816]but you've got to admit, it is different. i work for a small grading company. my employers make bad decisions all the time but nobody knows except for the 15 people that work there. when espn makes a bad decision, like the one we're discussing, millions of people know about it. you would think espn would want to put people in front of the camara that the majority of the viewers are going to like. imo, jim rome,steven a smith,sean salisbury,and chris carter are all bad choices. i can understand trying emmit smith out because he is a very likable guy.[/QUOTE]

I personally think Jim Rome is awesome. And I suspect that Carter and Salisbury would be regarded a bit more highly here if not for the "anti-Redskins slant." But there are so many on-air personalities, many of whom are very good.

But I mean it's pretty obvious how it works around here (and across the Internet message board world). When ESPN makes a "mistake" or has something not so nice to say about the Skins we're all over it (look at how many posts there were in the thread about Len P's article about Gibbs after he resigned). When the opposite happens we tend to be pretty quiet (look at how many posts there were in the thread about Clayton's article about Gibbs when he retired).

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[quote=SmootSmack;426822]I personally think Jim Rome is awesome. And I suspect that Carter and Salisbury would be regarded a bit more highly here if not for the "anti-Redskins slant." But there are so many on-air personalities, many of whom are very good.

But I mean it's pretty obvious how it works around here (and across the Internet message board world). When ESPN makes a "mistake" or has something not so nice to say about the Skins we're all over it (look at how many posts there were in the thread about Len P's article about Gibbs after he resigned). When the opposite happens we tend to be pretty quiet (look at how many posts there were in the thread about Clayton's article about Gibbs when he retired).[/quote]

yea, i agree with that but for me it has nothing to do with the redskins. i just feel like those individuals that i mentioned are arrogant, they have a "in your face" style that really just makes me not like them.

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that's like trading one asshole for another asshole that's got hemmoroids!

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Let's see, Salisbury took pics of his junk and sent them to co-workers, started every sentence with "there's no question," "I'll tell ya another thing," or "there's no doubt in my mind," and personally insulted on-air the best football analyst the network has. Plus he was a lousy pro player. And then he asked for a 7 figure salary for his "expertise?" The guy is a classic meathead. I never watched a clip of him and felt more enlightened or informed after he was done running his mouth. Bye Salisbury. Don't let the doorknob hit ya.

And they replace him with Chris Carter? Ick. Clayton and Jaworski are the only two NFL guys on that network worth a damn IMO. As much as I like Schlereth for his Redskins affiliation, he could be more of a meathead than Salisbury. SmootSmack, throw on a suit and come out of the production room! Your network needs you!

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Salisbury to me is almost the exact opposite of Darrell Green. Let me explain. You've all heard me talk about how it's been my experience that (as much as I love Green the player) he is not what his public persona makes him out to be.

Salisbury is the same way. He comes across as a complete jerk on air, and he can be a pretty loud guy off camera. But he works (worked) hard and is very approachable. Sometimes I feel like he tried to keep a persona up on-air that completely backfired.

As a sports fan, I'm not so upset that he's gone but as a colleague? Yeah he did some pretty awful things but overall he wasn't an ass on a regular basis. Unfortunately, there are several people who-surprising to many-are.

Rumor is FOX Sports has made him an offer

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[quote=SmootSmack;426850]Salisbury to me is almost the exact opposite of Darrell Green. Let me explain. You've all heard me talk about how it's been my experience that (as much as I love Green the player) he is not what his public persona makes him out to be.

Salisbury is the same way. He comes across as a complete jerk on air, and he can be a pretty loud guy off camera. But he works (worked) hard and is very approachable. Sometimes I feel like he tried to keep a persona up on-air that completely backfired.

As a sports fan, I'm not so upset that he's gone but as a colleague? Yeah he did some pretty awful things but overall he wasn't an ass on a regular basis. Unfortunately, there are several people who-surprising to many-are.

Rumor is FOX Sports has made him an offer[/quote]

Glad to hear that he isn't what most people perceive. But when you're on TV, the way you act on TV is how you'll be judged by the public. And rumors of sending around pics of your package doesn't help with your peers OR the public. Hopefully he'll learn from whatever mistakes he made at ESPN and find success elsewhere.

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Freaking offseason. Sean Salisbury has a five page thread and only 3 or 4 people are posting in the most important section of the forum.....NFL Draft Central.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;426855]Freaking offseason. Sean Salisbury has a five page thread and only 3 or 4 people are posting in the most important section of the forum.....NFL Draft Central.[/quote]

That's why I've been largely absent for a few weeks. There's only so much I can talk about in the offseason (at least before the start of free agency and the draft) before my eyeballs bleed from boredom.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426850]Salisbury to me is almost the exact opposite of Darrell Green. Let me explain. You've all heard me talk about how it's been my experience that (as much as I love Green the player) he is not what his public persona makes him out to be.

Salisbury is the same way. He comes across as a complete jerk on air, and he can be a pretty loud guy off camera. But he works (worked) hard and is very approachable. Sometimes I feel like he tried to keep a persona up on-air that completely backfired.

As a sports fan, I'm not so upset that he's gone but as a colleague? Yeah he did some pretty awful things but overall he wasn't an ass on a regular basis. Unfortunately, there are several people who-surprising to many-are.

Rumor is FOX Sports has made him an offer[/QUOTE]

Although I don't always agree with him I thought Salisbury was pretty entertaining on TV. I would rather listen to him then a so called nice guy who can't spit out an inteligent sentence.

Your Green comments don't surprise me. I went to training camp for a week every year back in the 80's. Of all their top players Green was consistently among the most unapproachable. I wouldn't go as far as rude, but just not as open as the rest.

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[quote=SmootSmack;426850]Salisbury to me is almost the exact opposite of Darrell Green. Let me explain. You've all heard me talk about how it's been my experience that (as much as I love Green the player) he is not what his public persona makes him out to be.

Salisbury is the same way. He comes across as a complete jerk on air, and he can be a pretty loud guy off camera. But he works (worked) hard and is very approachable. Sometimes I feel like he tried to keep a persona up on-air that completely backfired.

As a sports fan, I'm not so upset that he's gone but as a colleague? Yeah he did some pretty awful things but overall he wasn't an ass on a regular basis. Unfortunately, there are several people who-surprising to many-are.

Rumor is FOX Sports has made him an offer[/quote]

Never knew that about Sean, though I did hear that he was friends off camera with Jon Clayton, and their rivalry was just a guy thing.

However I don't know what to think about Green anymore. I keep on hearing about how he's a jerk off the field which is surprising, and some even say that Dieon is a nicer guy off the field but thats another story.

I will say this though, I went to Art Monk football camp, and I was amazed at how quiet the guy was. Half the time he would be just walking around and every now and then people would come up to him and small talk or ask for an autograph. To be honest he reminds me of Tony Dungy. If anything though I'm glad he's in the hall.