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Longtimefan 03-08-2008 01:36 AM

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*I* don't think anyone is actually overhyping Mix to the extent they feel he'll be a superstar. What they are saying is that if the team thought enough of the guy to sign him to the 53 man roster frrom the Giants PS, it's conceivable they saw some potential in him. All I see suggested here is that some feel he should be given an opportunity to see if he can be productive.

There's really not much difference in discussing him as it is discussing a WR in the draft who may, or may not be available at the time the team makes a selection. We all realize AM is not Chad Johnson, or Randy Moss, that does not however preclude him from being effective. He hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet, but neither has that WR somewhere waiting to be drafted.

dmek25 03-08-2008 07:18 AM

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maybe the skins are satisfied using Mccardell and Caldwell? but Mix will probably get his look at training camp. and my god, the guys 6'5", so i know alot of people around here want him strictly due to the fact he is tall.

Schneed10 03-08-2008 07:52 AM

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[quote=Longtimefan;430374]*I* don't think anyone is actually overhyping Mix to the extent they feel he'll be a superstar. [B]What they are saying is that if the team thought enough of the guy to sign him to the 53 man roster frrom the Giants PS, it's conceivable they saw some potential in him. All I see suggested here is that some feel he should be given an opportunity to see if he can be productive.[/B]

There's really not much difference in discussing him as it is discussing a WR in the draft who may, or may not be available at the time the team makes a selection. We all realize AM is not Chad Johnson, or Randy Moss, that does not however preclude him from being effective. He hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet, but neither has that WR somewhere waiting to be drafted.[/quote]

Well in that case, I don't think you're saying very much, because every player on the team is given an opportunity to show that they can be productive. That's the process the team goes through in training camp and preseason.

But allowing Mix an opportunity does not preclude the Redskins from making a move at WR, either through the draft, FA, or trade.

It's nice to dream about Mix, but what my camp is saying is that it's a huge mistake to COUNT on him for anything. The creator of this thread seems to think the Redskins believe Mix is "their guy." The only guy he is to the Redskins right now is another player with POTENTIAL. He by no means is considered the heir apparent to the #2 job Zorn is referring to. Thinking otherwise IS overhyping him.

I get what you're saying though, he'll get his chance. But that's no different than any other year or any other player.

freddyg12 03-08-2008 01:01 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;430374]*I* don't think anyone is actually overhyping Mix to the extent they feel he'll be a superstar. What they are saying is that if the team thought enough of the guy to sign him to the 53 man roster frrom the Giants PS, it's conceivable they saw some potential in him. All I see suggested here is that some feel he should be given an opportunity to see if he can be productive.

There's really not much difference in discussing him as it is discussing a WR in the draft who may, or may not be available at the time the team makes a selection. We all realize AM is not Chad Johnson, or Randy Moss, that does not however preclude him from being effective. He hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet, but neither has that WR somewhere waiting to be drafted.[/quote]

good post. Per what I posted earlier, I look at it similar to Anthony Montgomery. He got a little pt in 06, the draft comes up & they didn't draft any d linemen, saying they felt they could get by w/the group they had.

A year later, d line is still a priority need, but Montgomery started the whole year, and while unspectacular, held his own on a solid D.

Mix might be held in that same regard w/the coaches, they realize he's unlikely to be a pro bowler, but from what they've seen in practice, feel he can contribute.

IMO, if we draft a wr that indicates they have some confidence that Mix can at least contribute as the young un learns te ropes.

On a side note, anyone know Thrash's contract situation? Is there a good chance he could be cut? I love the guy, but now that Mix has made his mark on sepcial teams, Thrash could be the odd man out.

Schneed10 03-08-2008 02:04 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;430412]good post. Per what I posted earlier, I look at it similar to Anthony Montgomery. He got a little pt in 06, the draft comes up & they didn't draft any d linemen, saying they felt they could get by w/the group they had.

A year later, d line is still a priority need, but Montgomery started the whole year, and while unspectacular, held his own on a solid D.

Mix might be held in that same regard w/the coaches, they realize he's unlikely to be a pro bowler, but from what they've seen in practice, feel he can contribute.

IMO, if we draft a wr that indicates they have some confidence that Mix can at least contribute as the young un learns te ropes.

On a side note, anyone know Thrash's contract situation? Is there a good chance he could be cut? I love the guy, but now that Mix has made his mark on sepcial teams, Thrash could be the odd man out.[/quote]

First, I have to disagree on the Anthony Montgomery comparison, because Montgomery was somebody drafted by Gibbs and Grilliams. He was identified as a HUGE talent lacking in work ethic. They figured if they could kick him into gear he could be huge. So they kicked him into gear, and now he's an above-average NFL starting DT.

The same cannot be said for Mix. He is tall, he is somewhat fast, but his route-running is severely lacking. It's not like Montgomery, where the coaches can try to kick him into gear and create a starter. Montgomery had all the tools, he just didn't have the work ethic. I'm not sure Mix has all the tools; he's got the size and straight line speed, he works hard and puts out lots of effort, but he struggles to get open because he simply isn't very agile. That's not quite as coachable as work ethic.

I'd love it if you were right though, and I hope he takes advantage of his opportunities and steps it up for the 'Skins. But I think we'd be remiss to count on that and pass on making a move at WR.

As for Thrash, that's a great question. Gibbs loved him because of his special teams abilities more than anything, plus he's a real hard worker. But the question is will Zorn be as high on Thrash as Gibbs was? Danny Smith is still with us coaching special teams, so you can be sure he'll get in Zorn's ear about keeping Thrash around. But in the end it will be Zorn's call, he might want to go a different direction.

If we don't acquire any WRs this offseason, then I'd say Thrash definitely stays. But I figure we're going to acquire at least one either by trade, free agency, or the draft. We'll see where that leaves Thrash.

freddyg12 03-08-2008 03:47 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;430421]First, I have to disagree on the Anthony Montgomery comparison, because Montgomery was somebody drafted by Gibbs and Grilliams. He was identified as a HUGE talent lacking in work ethic. They figured if they could kick him into gear he could be huge. So they kicked him into gear, and now he's an above-average NFL starting DT.

The same cannot be said for Mix. He is tall, he is somewhat fast, but his route-running is severely lacking. It's not like Montgomery, where the coaches can try to kick him into gear and create a starter. Montgomery had all the tools, he just didn't have the work ethic. I'm not sure Mix has all the tools; he's got the size and straight line speed, he works hard and puts out lots of effort, but he struggles to get open because he simply isn't very agile. That's not quite as coachable as work ethic.

I'd love it if you were right though, and I hope he takes advantage of his opportunities and steps it up for the 'Skins. But I think we'd be remiss to count on that and pass on making a move at WR.

As for Thrash, that's a great question. Gibbs loved him because of his special teams abilities more than anything, plus he's a real hard worker. But the question is will Zorn be as high on Thrash as Gibbs was? Danny Smith is still with us coaching special teams, so you can be sure he'll get in Zorn's ear about keeping Thrash around. But in the end it will be Zorn's call, he might want to go a different direction.

If we don't acquire any WRs this offseason, then I'd say Thrash definitely stays. But I figure we're going to acquire at least one either by trade, free agency, or the draft. We'll see where that leaves Thrash.[/quote]

good points, and if Mix is simply not athletic enough to be good at the position then there's only so much "coacing up" that will work, but the avg. wr takes a few years to adjust. Except for the small % that can come in & start as rookies and put up good #s in yr. 2, most take 3 years to reach their full potential.

Mix might be closer than we think. also, maybe Mix has had work ethic issues himself & he's starting to come around. You're right that if he's not agile enough his routes will always suffer, but maybe he's developed poor route running habits, and never had enough coaching to correct him.

I'm only trying to show a possible, logical explanation to support what the thread poses. Who knows what Zorn will think of him & how he'll fit in the wco? I agree that we'll at least draft a wr, maybe 2 if we get those comp. picks.

I agree about thras. The more I think about it, if we acquire a wr, Thrash's best chance seems to actually hinge a lot on Mix becoming the #3 or #4 wr. If it's between he & Mix for the final wr spot, I think Mix would have to really suck at wr not to make it, as he's shown he can play teams well. We ended last year w/6 wr's, was McCardell inactive & thought allowed us to keep all 6?

jamf 03-08-2008 07:13 PM

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Holy Crap People!
You sound like a bunch of desperate housewives: "I want the biggest man I can find".

Big WR's aren't successful in the NFL, Athletic, strong and fast WR's that happen to be tall are.

Look at all the hype about Matt Jones and Reggie williams, They are not starting caliber WR's. The small journeyman Dennis Northcut beat them both out for lead WR.

Like Smootsmack said to his prom date, Size doesn't matter.

Bring Back The Smurfs!

saden1 03-08-2008 07:21 PM

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Wouldn't Mike Espy + Anthony Mix be a deadly combo? They could be the most dynamic due in NFL history if given a chance! Imagining the possibilities brings warmth to my heart and tears of joy running down my cheeks.

SeanTaylor21 03-08-2008 07:36 PM

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anthony mix is not fast, cant catch, and all he will be in his career is a special teams player. thers a reason why he was cut from the giants, hes got butterfingers!

Redskins8588 03-08-2008 07:42 PM

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;430445]anthony mix is not fast, cant catch, and all he will be in his career is a special teams player. thers a reason why he was cut from the giants, hes got butterfingers![/QUOTE]

Mix was not cut by the Giants we signed him off there practice squade(SP)...

T.O.Killa 03-08-2008 08:24 PM

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[quote=SeanTaylor21;430445]anthony mix is not fast, cant catch, and all he will be in his career is a special teams player. thers a reason why he was cut from the giants, hes got butterfingers![/quote]
He was not cut, from the Giants. He is fast. I dont want anyone thinking, I am delusional, I understand that Mix is not proven, but maybe they are counting on him more, than we think. I think that the Montgomery analogy was exactly, what I was thinking. Schneed10 says that he is severly deficient in route running, I am not sure how he knows this, but, I would certainly be willing to listen.
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Stuck in TX 03-08-2008 08:29 PM

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poor confused Redskins fans. Look what we have become. Just because we havnt made a huge splash in the FA we are suddenly calling our special teams #5 or 6 WR our next go to guy. We must have patience. I too am bored but we must wait. Something tells me we will have an addition sooner or later be it through the draft or FA to our WR corps, and it is evident that Mix isnt going anywhere and can only get better.

Schneed10 03-08-2008 09:13 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;430458]He was not cut, from the Giants. He is fast. I dont want anyone thinking, I am delusional, I understand that Mix is not proven, but maybe they are counting on him more, than we think. I think that the Montgomery analogy was exactly, what I was thinking. Schneed10 says that he is severly deficient in route running, I am not sure how he knows this, but, I would certainly be willing to listen.
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombineprofile.php?pyid=17012"]2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange[/URL][/quote]

Cut, practice squad, what's the effing difference? I love that distinction, talk about splitting hairs.

From an earlier post in this thread:

[B][QUOTE][/B]Weaknesses: Does not play as fast as 40-time indicates and his speed is too straight-line. Lacks ideal burst for a receiver and will have some problems creating separation working against man coverage at the next level. Doesn't use hands well, doesn't play with a mean streak and needs to improve ability to get a clean release working against press coverage[B].[/QUOTE][/B]

To me, that reads: not agile and cannot get open.

Stuck in TX 03-08-2008 09:17 PM

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[QUOTE=saden1;430443]Wouldn't Mike Espy + Anthony Mix be a deadly combo? They could be the most dynamic due in NFL history if given a chance! Imagining the possibilities brings warmth to my heart and tears of joy running down my cheeks.[/QUOTE]

sarcasm?? If so thats pretty funny.

That Guy 03-09-2008 01:59 AM

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if only we let patrick ramsey start 16 more games.... i mean, he WAS 6'5"... how could he NOT be awesome?


^that's what all these mix threads sound like.

bedlamVR 03-09-2008 04:27 PM

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There is one thing that I wonder about here . What are we really looking for ? A No.1 WR ? No that is Moss when healthy he is as dangerous as any wideout in the league . People thinking he needs a big WR opposite him need to think who was on the opposite side of the field in 2005...David Patten ...hmm

So we are looking for a No2. WR ...well no not really ARE may man the slot more in this scheme but he is the guy we will be looking for, for no.2. kind of production and in 2007 he came on leaps and bounds as a starting WR and stop him returning punts in the hope he can stay healthy.

So we are really looking for a No.3. wideout someone reliable but not necessarily spectacular also given that Cooley, Portis, Sellars will be important in the passing game they are not going to get a huge amount of action . Do we really want to spend big $$$$ on this kind of guy . Sure we could draft a guy but first round is there anyone really there who could be the guy down the stretch, or more importantly is there a WR in the first round who will be available and offer more value than addressing our OL, DL or DB.

With all this in mind then can Mix be the guy...maybe . I saw him in London (mistaking him for Burress) and I am not sure how many scrubs the team would bother taking with them so I kind of think the Giants were high on the guy . His career may be nothing more than James Thrash but even he was a No.1. WR in philly so that is no bad thing .

Would it be wise to bank on Mix to be the guy ... hell no. But keeping Caldwell or picking up a bargin basement player or second day pick would be an adequate plan B in my mind .

Sure we do need a stud to pick up for Moss as our No.1. guy but unless said stud falls in our laps whoever we pick up will do time on the bench being developed so why not go with Mix or Espy or whoever.

EXoffender 03-09-2008 06:00 PM

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I like Mix and don't care what he's done or not done to this point in his career. If he has it in him to step it up, he'll have a chance this year to catch some balls.

saden1 03-09-2008 07:41 PM

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[quote=EXoffender;430609]I like Mix and don't care what he's done or not done to this point in his career. If he has it in him to step it up, he'll have a chance this year to catch some balls.[/quote]

You guys just crack me up. If he had it in him he would have stepped in and stepped up last season. There is a reason why he was a part time starter in college and barely has an NFL roster spot.

EXoffender 03-09-2008 08:36 PM

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[quote=saden1;430628]You guys just crack me up. If he had it in him he would have stepped in and stepped up last season. There is a reason why he was a part time starter in college and barely has an NFL roster spot.[/quote]For some guys it takes it takes time. There are many stories about 'career backups' and underachievers who are given a chance or counted on in 'desperate' situations and become staples in their teams rosters. What most of us are saying here about Mix (and Caldwell) is we have a guy, let him compete, let's make a decision from there. We're not saying there's no need to draft a WR or look at an affordable FA because Mix is the next Jerry Rice. It seems you are for aquiring big-ticket FAs and believe if a player isn't a first day pick, he obviously is not talented enough to make any NFL team's roster. We all are for upgrading but there is always a possibility that that big-ticket FA WR will be a Brandon Lloyd and the first day pick ends up being Taylor Jacobs...

Warren85Ellard 03-09-2008 09:01 PM

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I'm still counting on Darnerian McCants to be our big go-to receiver....once he puts his music career on hiatus.

[url=http://www.darnerienmccants.com/]Darnerien McCants: Lonely[/url]

T.O.Killa 03-09-2008 10:24 PM

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[quote=saden1;430628]You guys just crack me up. If he had it in him he would have stepped in and stepped up last season. There is a reason why he was a part time starter in college and barely has an NFL roster spot.[/quote]
There are very few recievers, that do well in there first year. Start looking up good recievers and you will find that most start to produce in their third year. People, making such definative statements about Mix, being good or bad, are forming an opion without any facts. Even, Calvin Johnson, the second player picked in the draft, did not do much his first year.

Campbell17 03-09-2008 10:25 PM

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I dont think mix is good enough.

That Guy 03-09-2008 11:06 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;430658]There are very few recievers, that do well in there first year. Start looking up good recievers and you will find that most start to produce in their third year. People, making such definative statements about Mix, being good or bad, are forming an opion without any facts. Even, Calvin Johnson, the second player picked in the draft, did not do much his first year.[/quote]

yet that "not very much" is still about 1,000,000 times more than mix. there's a difference between not becoming an instant superstar and not even getting on the field, and i don't think i'll be comparing calvin johnson and mix anytime soon either.

Stuck in TX 03-09-2008 11:28 PM

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he contributes and hes not currently overpaid... what is this thread about again?

T.O.Killa 03-09-2008 11:28 PM

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[quote=That Guy;430677]yet that "not very much" is still about 1,000,000 times more than mix. there's a difference between not becoming an instant superstar and not even getting on the field, and i don't think i'll be comparing calvin johnson and mix anytime soon either.[/quote]
I respect your opion on alot of things, but as far as I know, you are just another fan(not an authority on NFL personnel). I made no comparison, between Mix and Johnson. You are just attempting to belittle me, as you do to many people, when you dont share their opinion. Your point about how they should not be compared, is exactly right. What I was pointing out is, that a top talent like Calvin Johnson did not do a whole lot, in his rookie year, so why would anyone expect more from Mix. He was a project, with all the physical tools. Maybe, he is ready now.

Also, I dont agree with your opinion with B. Johnson. I think, he is exactly what we need. He is a big red zone target. Santana is our #1.

Dirtbag59 03-09-2008 11:43 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;430658]There are very few recievers, that do well in there first year. Start looking up good recievers and you will find that most start to produce in their third year. People, making such definative statements about Mix, being good or bad, are forming an opion without any facts. Even, Calvin Johnson, the second player picked in the draft, did not do much his first year.[/quote]

756 yards while spliting catches with Roy Williams (836 yds), Shaun McDonald (943 yds), and Mike Furrey (664 yds) isn't doing much? Lol, man I'd hate to be a rookie on your team witih standards like that. "Johnson get more yards then Adrian Peterson this year or else you're off the team."

I really want to find out who started Mix-Mania, because it's one of the most utterly ridiculous 1+1=2 phenomenoms I've ever seen. If I had to guess I think it might have started something like this in a land called ExtremeSkins.

[quote]
Master Cheif: Hey guyz u guyz holy shit u guyz. vinny Sirato say we need huge reciever dis offseason 4 grate justice. i find guy on roster dat r 6'5. this is such a big ****ing deal. plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz give Mix shot

13 Year Old Fan: ZOMG, and he has 95 speed on Madden and hes 6 foot five. this is r guy but y so many z in please

Master Cheif: B/c i think the more z's i put in plz the more chance dan snyder r give Mix shot.

14 y/o fan: DOES ANY1 NO ANYTHING BOUT HIM CUZ HE LOOKS 1337!one!!!1!

Mstr Chief: well he r have chance to win supper b0wl w da vigiants but we sign him to practice squad and he r recover squib kick so shuizam can miss 5 inch FG >: (

semi-informed fan: he also played wit campbell at auburn could be a good fit.

Every1 else: WOW THIS IS GREAT! WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT ANYONE. MIX IS THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD lololollololololololololololo
[/quote]

Ok so maybe it didn't start like that but I really sometimes I wonder if the our fanbase is smoking rocks. Theres a huge difference to me between giving a guy a shot, and annointing someone as a savior for a particular need. In this case a possible #1 Reciever that Cerato and Dan Snyder are looking for.

Ironically if you guys really want Mix to play then your best chance would be for us to sign Hacket. With Hackets history of injuries we might need to carry an extra reciever or two on the roster. But seriously this whole Mix thing has me dumb founded.

That Guy 03-10-2008 12:15 AM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;430681]I respect your opion on alot of things, but as far as I know, you are just another fan(not an authority on NFL personnel). I made no comparison, between Mix and Johnson. You are just attempting to belittle me, as you do to many people, when you dont share their opinion. Your point about how they should not be compared, is exactly right. What I was pointing out is, that a top talent like Calvin Johnson did not do a whole lot, in his rookie year, so why would anyone expect more from Mix. He was a project, with all the physical tools. Maybe, he is ready now.

Also, I dont agree with your opinion with B. Johnson. I think, he is exactly what we need. He is a big red zone target. Santana is our #1.[/quote]

having a difference of opinion and thinking a guy that had trouble staying on a practice squad should be our "guy" are two different things.

this mix stuff is closer to the "let's bring lavar back" and "how come ramsey never got a shot" arguments than anything else. I'm sorry i'm not allowed to bring up "facts" like Ca J's 756yds vs mix's 0 and say that i wouldn't compare them after you just used Ca J as an example of why mix should get a shot without proving to the coaches first that he even deserves to get on the field.

if you'd like to argue facts, i'd love to discuss this further, but there really aren't many beyond "mix is 6'5" and that's the only reason he should start"

if i've missed something, please let me know, but crying foul and saying Ca J didn't do much isn't exactly true. there are lots of 6'5" 4.4 guys at local gyms that aren't going to be great WRs either. i just think this hype is unreal.

my response isn't just for you, because there are LOTS of people hyping this guy, and maybe he'll be a decent player eventually, but too many people are talking about him like he's about to put up 1500 yards after being a part time college player without a great track record.

EXoffender 03-10-2008 02:06 PM

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Watching that playoff game against SEA... Hackett is no better than Caldwell. Let's look to the draft for a #2 WR.

Schneed10 03-10-2008 02:12 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;430686]756 yards while spliting catches with Roy Williams (836 yds), Shaun McDonald (943 yds), and Mike Furrey (664 yds) isn't doing much? Lol, man I'd hate to be a rookie on your team witih standards like that. "Johnson get more yards then Adrian Peterson this year or else you're off the team."

I really want to find out who started Mix-Mania, because it's one of the most utterly ridiculous 1+1=2 phenomenoms I've ever seen. If I had to guess I think it might have started something like this in a land called ExtremeSkins.



Ok so maybe it didn't start like that but I really sometimes I wonder if the our fanbase is smoking rocks. Theres a huge difference to me between giving a guy a shot, and annointing someone as a savior for a particular need. In this case a possible #1 Reciever that Cerato and Dan Snyder are looking for.

Ironically if you guys really want Mix to play then your best chance would be for us to sign Hacket. With Hackets history of injuries we might need to carry an extra reciever or two on the roster. But seriously this whole Mix thing has me dumb founded.[/quote]

LOL LOL LOL

Oh my friggin GOD, that was funny. Matty and SS, get this guy on the payroll because that Extreme conversation was comedic genius!

Schneed10 03-10-2008 02:18 PM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;430681]I respect your opion on alot of things, but as far as I know, you are just another fan(not an authority on NFL personnel). I made no comparison, between Mix and Johnson. You are just attempting to belittle me, as you do to many people, when you dont share their opinion. Your point about how they should not be compared, is exactly right. What I was pointing out is, that a top talent like Calvin Johnson did not do a whole lot, in his rookie year, so why would anyone expect more from Mix. He was a project, with all the physical tools. Maybe, he is ready now.

Also, I dont agree with your opinion with B. Johnson. I think, he is exactly what we need. He is a big red zone target. Santana is our #1.[/quote]

I didn't see That Guy as belittling you on that one, might want to tone down the sensitivity.

And he's right. Calvin Johnson had a darn good rookie season in that offense. Anthony Mix never friggin plays.

How you can even compare their talent, nevermind production, is beyond me. One is super fast, the other is kind of sorta fast. One is quick as a cat, the other is slow as molasses when coming in and out of breaks.

Besides his height and his half-decent speed, can I ask you to please identify what you think makes Anthony Mix a starting caliber WR?

freddyg12 03-10-2008 02:19 PM

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[quote=EXoffender;430781]Watching that playoff game against SEA... Hackett is no better than Caldwell. Let's look to the draft for a #2 WR.[/quote]

can't agree w/that, Hackett looked good in that game. Took it to Springs early, then split the zone for the go ahead td. He had 6 catches for 101 on us.

Schneed10 03-10-2008 02:32 PM

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[quote=EXoffender;430781]Watching that playoff game against SEA... Hackett is no better than Caldwell. Let's look to the draft for a #2 WR.[/quote]

Sometimes I simply disagree with comments. But this one is just flat out wrong.

Hackett is significantly better than Reche Caldwell.

BrudLee 03-11-2008 07:16 PM

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Here's the reason Mix was signed: He has a history with our starter, so they were hoping they'd have some chemistry without having to sacrifice practice reps for our top-tier players. That's it.

Is he a valuable member of our team? Depends on your criteria. He's a special teams contributor, that gives him [U]some[/U] value. He's paid next to nothing (in NFL terms). I think all but a few people will say that Mix was more valuable than Lloyd by those terms.

Of the receivers currently on roster, Mix probably isn't a starter. That doesn't mean that someone who is 6'5", runs a 4.5 40, and plays special teams fairly well for the league minimum is in a great deal of danger.

redwagonskins 03-11-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
As I said in the Hackett thread: Where is this Anthony Mix nonsense coming from? Does he come up big in Madden or something? Are we talking about the same Mix who has 3 catches in 3 years in the NFL? The same guy who had 288 yards receiving his Senior years and 294 yards his Junior year? Is this what we've come to around here?

Sure some guys take time to develop as NFL talent but most showed a lot of talent at least in college! His Junior year Courtney Taylor, Ronnie Brown (RB!), Ben Obomanu, Devin Aromashodu, and Cooper Wallace ALL had more receiving yards. His Senior year Obomanu and Aramashodu both had more yards.

As much as I'd love for the guy to be the next Jerry Rice, give it a break. Hopefully the guy becomes a good special teamer and 3rd/4th receiver. He has never shown any more than that.

mooby 03-12-2008 04:23 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
[quote=Schneed10;430198]If you're counting on the tiny likelihood that an Antonio Pierce situation is going to repeat itself with Anthony Mix, then you're doing a poor job of planning out your roster.

Those are rare finds. You give them a chance to earn jobs in camp, but if you're EXPECTING them to develop into a starter, as a GM you should be fired.

If you feel you have a hole at WR, you need to make a move cap-permitting. And the cap permits in this instance.[/quote]

The only reason I made that comparison was to show that sometimes guys who you think are nothing more than scrubs, rise above and become good players in the NFL. I'm not saying Mix is the next A.P., far from it. I don't personally care if Mix ends up being worthless or if he becomes a good player for us, because I'm not on the "Mix is our guy" bandwagon.

It just sounds to me like you refuse to believe that some guy who you don't have a great impression of has the ability to cut it in this league. Besides what you have really seen of AM to give you this impression? You are just going off what you've heard, which is really to say nothing at all because there haven't been any reports of any kind about how Mix is faring in the NFL so far. Let me say again I'm not on the "Mix is the next Rice" bandwagon, but I'm not ruling it completely out that some day in this league he could be a productive player. And when I say productive player I'm not implying a productive starter, simply a guy who can contribute moreso than other guys at his position.

T.O.Killa 03-12-2008 05:45 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
I just wanted to post this info on what Cerrato said about Mix. It came from JLC.
[quote]Cerrato is excited about the potential of wide receiver Anthony Mix (6-5, 235 pounds), who was signed off the New York Giants' practice squad in November. But Mix, a college teammate of Campbell at Auburn, has played in only nine games in his two-year pro career and has three receptions for 39 yards.[/quote]

Stuck in TX 03-12-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
Its good to hear something about him from someone other than us. I was begining to think all the quiet was causing us to go crazy!

That Guy 03-12-2008 08:48 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
[quote=mooby;431412]The only reason I made that comparison was to show that sometimes guys who you think are nothing more than scrubs, rise above and become good players in the NFL. I'm not saying Mix is the next A.P., far from it. I don't personally care if Mix ends up being worthless or if he becomes a good player for us, because I'm not on the "Mix is our guy" bandwagon.

It just sounds to me like you refuse to believe that some guy who you don't have a great impression of has the ability to cut it in this league. Besides what you have really seen of AM to give you this impression? You are just going off what you've heard, which is really to say nothing at all because there haven't been any reports of any kind about how Mix is faring in the NFL so far. Let me say again I'm not on the "Mix is the next Rice" bandwagon, but I'm not ruling it completely out that some day in this league he could be a productive player. And when I say productive player I'm not implying a productive starter, simply a guy who can contribute moreso than other guys at his position.[/quote]

it's not the player, it's the hype and talk like he's going to have a randy moss type year guaranteed.

yes, he might be good, but the odds are VERY VERY heavily against it, yet how many "mix is teh best evar!" threads have we seen since the end of another terribly unproductive year for him? that's all.

Danoyd 03-12-2008 09:52 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
I like Anthony Mix. He should be utilized a little more then just special teams. That play in Seattle was nasty and he was a tackling machine on special teams, in particular theChicago game. If remember correctly he [B]ROCKED[/B] dEVIN hESTER

Dirtbag59 03-12-2008 10:06 PM

Re: Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man
 
It's basically like going after a Long term relationship with a girl you don't know just because she has big tits and a nice backside. Look if you're not going to get to know her then at least go for the one night stand.

The expectations for a guy like Mix are way to high. Antonio Gates had to get 324 yards during his rookie year before fans started putting the same type of hype into him as some of you seem to be doing for Mix. I'm sure the guy appreciates it, but damn!

[IMG]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj304/DirkXXVI/computer_programmer.gif[/IMG]You know what this is how I feel about "Mix mania." If only you guys hadn't hyped him up so much then I wouldnt have type with my feet.


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