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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;438884]My main point of bringing up the game was actually to talk about Gil's shoes. I was going to start a new thread about how he was rockin' his Redskins shoes but then it just made more sense to continue this thread because of the tie-in with the Celtics and how this thread left off with Celtics/Wizards discussion.

I'm not ignorant (1310 SAT, MBA Marketing Management, 3.72 GPA ;) ) I realize that the Celtics are the cream of the crop for the Eastern Conference regular season and that ultimately all this did for the Wizards was give their top 3 stars a rare chance to play together this year and do so very effectively against a strong team. I also know that the Celtics' top three players have a bit of a stigma attached to them as to their ability to be successful in the postseason. So we shall see.

I didn't start that post to instigate anyone or anything[/QUOTE]

Nice GPA, I could only muster a 3.5. We had a similar SAT, although you got me by 20.

You didn't make a comment about the Celts with even the slightest thought that I, or any Celts fan, would comment on it? Come on SS...

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[QUOTE=jsarno;438891]Nice GPA, I could only muster a 3.5. We had a similar SAT, although you got me by 20.

You didn't make a comment about the Celts with even the slightest thought that I, or any Celts fan, would comment on it? Come on SS...[/QUOTE]

To paraphrase my sig...you're so vain, you probably think my posts are about you

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Seriously though, in retrospect I'm not surprised you commented on it. But when I posted I didn't do it thinking you would or trying to get you to

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;438907]To paraphrase my sig...you're so vain, you probably think my posts are about you[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I seem to recall someone overreacting about a stewart thread and it wasn't meant to attack at all. You even gave me a negative rating for it even though it wasn't mean at all. You just took it personally. Interesting word...vain.

You can say what you want, and quite frankly, I expected you to lie about it. Not sure why you would admit you were trying to rib someone, but if you had the guts you'd admit it.
Oh well...you did exactly what I expected you to do. Just can't figure out why it matters to you though. I think it's all out of fun. It gets people to post here, and isn't that the point? I'm not saying you were wrong for doing so, but I know your intent, and you know your intent even if you don't admit it. Don't mistake my posts as anger. I find most of these posts laughable.

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The Stewart post was an entirely different situation which we already discussed through PM, and that should stay there.

If you think I'm lying about this thread, that's fine. No skin off my back.

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[url]http://imgsrv.wbz.com/image/wbz/UserFiles/Image/Sports%20Images/Celtics%20Bulls%20Deng%20shoots%20over%20Pierce.jpg[/url]
Quite sad, he gets $16,360,094 a year, and plays D like that...

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The Celtics big three
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3253]ESPN - Paul Pierce Stats, News, Photos - Boston Celtics[/url]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=261]ESPN - Kevin Garnett Stats, News, Photos - Boston Celtics[/url]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=0009]ESPN - Ray Allen Stats, News, Photos - Boston Celtics[/url]
and the Wizards big three
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1705]ESPN - Caron Butler Stats, News, Photos - Washington Wizards[/url]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=385]ESPN - Antawn Jamison Stats, News, Photos - Washington Wizards[/url]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=974]ESPN - Gilbert Arenas Stats, News, Photos - Washington Wizards[/url]
The Celtic three add up to 56.7, and the Wizards big three add up to 62.3, Wizards win.
[url]http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/slideshow/games05/081405allstarclassic/081405allstar01.jpg[/url]

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I really think Boston is overrated and won't make it far in the playoffs. The Wizards on the other hand, they are going to shock some folks. Watch.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;439185]I really think Boston is overrated and won't make it far in the playoffs. The Wizards on the other hand, they are going to shock some folks. Watch.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.armchairgm.com/Boston_Celtics_%3D_Definition_of_Overrated]Boston Celtics = Definition of Overrated - ArmchairGM - Sports Wiki Database[/url]
Perfectly worded."Boston Celtics = Definition of Overrated"

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I actually authored that article, ST21.

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Zards got smoked by the Pistons tonight, it was ugly

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Wizards still have a chance to get home-court advantage over the Cavs since they won and the Cavs lost tonight. Anybody else excited about our chances against the Cavs in the playoffs this season? I'd like our chances even more if we got home-court advantage. If the Cavs lose to the Pistons (which there is a good chance they will given the way they've been playing) and the Wiz beat Orlando (not such an easy task) then we'll be in good shape for the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=mooby;439637]Wizards still have a chance to get home-court advantage over the Cavs since they won and the Cavs lost tonight. Anybody else excited about our chances against the Cavs in the playoffs this season? I'd like our chances even more if we got home-court advantage. If the Cavs lose to the Pistons (which there is a good chance they will given the way they've been playing) and the Wiz beat Orlando (not such an easy task) then we'll be in good shape for the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Personally I would have been happier playing Orlando rather than playing Cleveland, because LBJ showed everyone last year his one man show, and since they traded for some guys at the break now he has some others who can score. The reason that I would have rather faced Orlando is because of the physical way Brendan Haywood played against him, he also did a great job of defending him, if Gil and Caron are healthy, we could make a deep run in the playoffs no matter who we play.

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What the F? Are the refs f'n serious? They handed the Cavs the game against the '6ers. I'm feeling pretty pissed off right now, I was sitting here thinking the Cavs lost 89-90 and then I get on NBA.com and it says they won 91-90. So I'm thinking there must be some mistake or something, so I watch the highlights on Comcast Sportsnet and they said that someone called a foul with like .2 of a second left on the clock and the dude sank them both to give the Cavs the win. What kind of m.f.ing bullshit is that? The game was f'n over. The refs literally just took the opportunity for home-court advantage away from the Wizards. This just pisses me off.

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[quote=mooby;439651]What the F? Are the refs f'n serious? They handed the Cavs the game against the '6ers. I'm feeling pretty pissed off right now, I was sitting here thinking the Cavs lost 89-90 and then I get on NBA.com and it says they won 91-90. So I'm thinking there must be some mistake or something, so I watch the highlights on Comcast Sportsnet and they said that someone called a foul with like .2 of a second left on the clock and the dude sank them both to give the Cavs the win. What kind of m.f.ing bullshit is that? The game was f'n over. The refs literally just took the opportunity for home-court advantage away from the Wizards. This just pisses me off.[/quote]

If LeBron was the guy who was "fouled" it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Sickening. Although Cleveland's next game is against Detroit, and I doubt the Pistons would play their key guys very much given the 2 seed is a foregone conclusion.

It was nice to see Blatche, Mason Jr, and Nick Young play so well tonight for the Wiz.

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[quote=SeanTaylor21;439644]Personally I would have been happier playing Orlando rather than playing Cleveland, because LBJ showed everyone last year his one man show,[B] and since they traded for some guys at the break now he has some others who can score. [/B]The reason that I would have rather faced Orlando is because of the physical way Brendan Haywood played against him, he also did a great job of defending him, if Gil and Caron are healthy, we could make a deep run in the playoffs no matter who we play.[/quote]

They had a better record before the trade. They've hovered around .500 ever since.

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[quote=GMScud;439657]If LeBron was the guy who was "fouled" it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Sickening. Although Cleveland's next game is against Detroit, and I doubt the Pistons would play their key guys very much given the 2 seed is a foregone conclusion.

It was nice to see Blatche, Mason Jr, and Nick Young play so well tonight for the Wiz.[/quote]

I believe he was, he was driving in the paint with like a second left on the clock and then there was a whistle, but they continued playing and he missed the shot and then somebody put the rebound in but the clock had already expired before he shot it. So the '6ers assumed they had the game won and went to the locker room, but the refs looked it over and gave him two foul shots and they both went in.

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[quote=mooby;439663]I believe he was, he was driving in the paint with like a second left on the clock and then there was a whistle, but they continued playing and he missed the shot and then somebody put the rebound in but the clock had already expired before he shot it. So the '6ers assumed they had the game won and went to the locker room, but the refs looked it over and gave him two foul shots and they both went in.[/quote]

Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter. What a HUGE joke. My god. That was one of the worst things I've ever seen. And they get that call on the road no less. Unf-ingbelievable.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;439667]Just saw the highlight on SportsCenter. What a HUGE joke. My god. That was one of the worst things I've ever seen. And they get that call on the road no less. Unf-ingbelievable.[/QUOTE]

In fairness didn't something very similar happen with Agent Zero last year (against the Warriors I think)

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Here's what I was thinking of

[url=http://www.nba.com/games/20070304/GSWWAS/recap.html]NBA.com Arenas’ Free Throws Cap Wild Finish in D.C.[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;439669]In fairness didn't something very similar happen with Agent Zero last year (against the Warriors I think)[/quote]

It actually wasn't LeBron who got fouled. He dumped it off to Devin Brown who was apparently fouled as time expired. There was no foul called though. After they reviewed the play (??? didn't know fouls were review-able) they decided Brown was in fact fouled, brought the Sixers back out of their home locker room and gave the dude two free throws. Ridiculous.

Yeah something similar happened with Gil last year but it was in March and not with home court on the line. Even though it wasn't James who got "fouled" tonight, overall the way LeBron is officiated is absurd. You'd think he was already Jordan.

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Well several years ago in the playoffs Wade was reffed like that. It was so annoying I had to stop watching the playoffs because it is just sickening.

Two main points. Currently NBA refs suck. College refs are horrendous but NBA refs are not good by any means. And secondly, nowadays refs are told to call more touch fouls, people want higher scoring games. Just like in the NFL when they changed rules to make PI calls easier for higher scoring. They do it in all leagues, NBA, NhL, NFL, MLB(more of ignoring steroids for breaking records and high hrs), soccer(fifa changed rules to make it easier to get carded and they changed the official ball to make it move more irregularly making it harder for keepers), etc. etc.

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[QUOTE=mooby;439651]What the F? Are the refs f'n serious? They handed the Cavs the game against the '6ers. I'm feeling pretty pissed off right now, I was sitting here thinking the Cavs lost 89-90 and then I get on NBA.com and it says they won 91-90. So I'm thinking there must be some mistake or something, so I watch the highlights on Comcast Sportsnet and they said that someone called a foul with like .2 of a second left on the clock and the dude sank them both to give the Cavs the win. What kind of m.f.ing bullshit is that? The game was f'n over. The refs literally just took the opportunity for home-court advantage away from the Wizards. This just pisses me off.[/QUOTE]

It shouldn't have happened, it was a bull shit foul, and if it weren't called we might have had home field advantage going into the playoffs, maybe Stern will make them replay there game like that one game that the Heat had to.

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[QUOTE=mooby;439651]What the F? Are the refs f'n serious? They handed the Cavs the game against the '6ers. I'm feeling pretty pissed off right now, I was sitting here thinking the Cavs lost 89-90 and then I get on NBA.com and it says they won 91-90. So I'm thinking there must be some mistake or something, so I watch the highlights on Comcast Sportsnet and they said that someone called a foul with like .2 of a second left on the clock and the dude sank them both to give the Cavs the win. What kind of m.f.ing bullshit is that? The game was f'n over. The refs literally just took the opportunity for home-court advantage away from the Wizards. This just pisses me off.[/QUOTE]

I understand that fans are often blind, and passion sometimes overlooks reality, but you need to look at this again.
1- he was CLEARLY fouled with that guy falling into his stomach / chest altering the shot. (on purpose? Who knows, but none the less 100% a foul.)
2- the ref clearly put his arm up BEFORE time expired, and just to be on the safe side, they reviewed it and made the right call.
3- it's really not that big of a deal because you'd face the Cavs regardless. Sure it would give you 1 more game at home, but are you willing to overlook what actually happened to get what you want? If it were me, I'd rather do it correctly. To make matters worse, they would still be 1 game ahead of you with 1 to play even if the refs ignored that foul.
4- You should be more concerned with the shit talking the wizards are doing about the Cavs. Why say anything at all? All you're doing is going to get them inspired to beat you. You better be 100% on your game or you will lose to them due to this crap.

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;439713]It shouldn't have happened, it was a bull shit foul, and if it weren't called we might have had home field advantage going into the playoffs, maybe Stern will make them replay there game like that one game that the Heat had to.[/QUOTE]

Please explain how it was "bull shit", cause it was clearly a foul.

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[quote=jsarno;439747]Please explain how it was "bull shit", cause it was clearly a foul.[/quote]

Yeah but since when can you review a play and call a foul after the fact?? There was no whistle on the actual play itself. It was a total joke. And it is a big deal. Home court is important.

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[quote=GMScud;439770]Yeah but since when can you review a play and call a foul after the fact?? There was no whistle on the actual play itself. It was a total joke. And it is a big deal. Home court is important.[/quote]

I agree with GMScud. Home court is a pretty big deal when it comes down to the final two games of the season. And even though it's not a big deal to you Jsarno, it is to us fans of a team that has been eliminated from the playoffs by these guys the last two years. We haven't been good on their court the last two years and if things were on our court we'd probably have a better chance of a better outcome. And part of my rant was definitely spur of the moment, letting my emotions get the best of me, sort of thing.

I'm gonna drop this now because in the end we still have to play the Cavs in the first round, but I just don't like to see games end like that. I've seen that exact thing happen in other games in like the first, second or third quarter and the refs don't call a foul because they just want to let them play the game, but I don't like to see it called with .2 of a second left on the clock in the fourth quarter of an extremely close game. Because in essence the refs are basically handing whatever team that gets the call the win, knowing that the other team can't do anything about it.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;439770]Yeah but since when can you review a play and call a foul after the fact?? There was no whistle on the actual play itself. It was a total joke. And it is a big deal. Home court is important.[/QUOTE]

I do understand that home field is important. Both you and the Cavs have a similar subpar road record, and a similar better than average home record.
That being said, you can clearly see the ref putting his arm up signifying a foul before the time expired. Which is why it was reviewed. Had he not put his arm up, there would be no foul and the game would be over.
Sorry guys, it was a legit call. I know that isn't what you want to hear...but hey, get pissed and take it out on the Cavs. Good luck in your series.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;439185]I really think Boston is overrated and won't make it far in the playoffs. [b]The Wizards on the other hand, they are going to shock some folks. Watch.[/b][/QUOTE]

I figured no one would call you on this comment, so I will.
I watched...and I was right.

quoted by jsarno:
[quote]It won't matter cause Washington and Boston won't meet. We are the elite, and you are the posers. You won't beat Cleveland first round (assuming that is who you will face). [/quote]

I also said:
[quote]It seems that Boston has difficulty with athletic teams, but given the chance to face them in a 7 game series, the Celts would prepare better for it. But again, it's all moot cause you will be dismissed far before you'll have to face the best team in basketball in a series.[/quote]

Atlanta was pretty athletic, and for some reason we couldn't beat them on the road. We completely dominated them at home though.
game 1- 104-81 (23 point difference)
game 2- 96-77 (19 point difference)
game 5- 110-85 (25 point difference)
game 7- 99-65 (34 point difference)
The celts lost by 9 / 5 / and 3 in the 3 losses.
I am very concerned about the fact that Atlanta gave us a good run, but Cleveland isn't as athletic as Atlanta.

The Wizards had a decent team this year, but they need better role players, and they need to take better shots. They also need to stop talking so much until AFTER they do something. Their mouths just bought them a 3rd straight defeat.

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[quote=jsarno;446707]I figured no one would call you on this comment, so I will.
I watched...and I was right.

quoted by jsarno:


I also said:


Atlanta was pretty athletic, and for some reason we couldn't beat them on the road. We completely dominated them at home though.
game 1- 104-81 (23 point difference)
game 2- 96-77 (19 point difference)
game 5- 110-85 (25 point difference)
game 7- 99-65 (34 point difference)
The celts lost by 9 / 5 / and 3 in the 3 losses.
I am very concerned about the fact that Atlanta gave us a good run, but Cleveland isn't as athletic as Atlanta.

The Wizards had a decent team this year, but they need better role players, and they need to take better shots. They also need to stop talking so much until AFTER they do something. Their mouths just bought them a 3rd straight defeat.[/quote]

We'll see how the series goes with the Cleveland Lebrons. Pretty soon you'll be upset about how many calls Lebron gets as well ;)

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[QUOTE=mooby;446750]We'll see how the series goes with the Cleveland Lebrons. Pretty soon you'll be upset about how many calls Lebron gets as well ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL...you might be right...we'll have to wait and see.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;439185]I really think Boston is overrated and won't make it far in the playoffs. The Wizards on the other hand, they are going to shock some folks. Watch.[/QUOTE]

WOW!
Your first point was that Boston won't make it far in the playoffs. They won it all.
Your second point is that the Wizards are going to shock some folks, suggesting they will go far in the playoffs. They lost first round.

Please state for the record that Dallas will win it all and the Skins have no chance.
I'm tired of the Skins losing and you appear to the opposite of right. :D
;)

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Even with Gilbert back, the Wizards still have to make some more changes to improve over last year's record.

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zombie thread!