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[QUOTE=Schneed10;439757]I can't condone drafting Jordy unless he's capable of giving me Warp 9.5.

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[B][I][U][SIZE="3"]THIS IS THE REAL #27. MAYBE AGENT 0027? LOL![/SIZE][/U][/I][/B]


Jordy Nelson
WR | (6'2", 217, 4.509) | KANSAS STATE

Scouts Grade: 84
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Strengths: Is a big, strong receiver. Big target with extremely reliable hands. Consistently catches the ball thrown over his head, can pluck on the run effortlessly and does a great job of securing the ball in traffic. Not afraid to go over the middle. He has functional speed for his size. Most impressive is his ability to get in and out of breaks so quickly, especially for a bigger receiver. Displayed much better initial quickness and burst as a senior than he had in previous seasons. He runs crisp routes. Converted high school quarterback, shows a great feel for running routes, finding soft spots in zone and coming back to his quarterbacks when initial play has broken down. Very tough, competitive runner after the catch. Also shows excellent vision to navigate through traffic  both after the catch and in the return game. Will lower his shoulder and drag smaller DB's for extra few yards at the end of the play. Continues to improve with experience. High character player and hard worker.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal top-end speed. Is not going to consistently get over the top of man-coverage as a vertical route runner. Runs hard and shows good vision but not overly elusive and doesn't display the second-gear necessary to run away from NFL defenders. Needs to improve technique and overall consistency as a blocker.

Overall: Nelson redshirted in 2003 and didn't see any action as a defensive back in 2004. He moved to wide receiver in 2005, appearing in 24 games (20 starts) over his sophomore and junior seasons (2005-'06). He had 84 receptions for 1,216 yards (14.5 average) and nine touchdowns during that span. Nelson was slowed by a knee injury in '06 but wouldn't sit out any games. Nelson was sensational as a senior, delivering 10.2 receptions for 133.4 receiving yards per game (both second in the nation) and 155.3 all-purpose yards per game (20th). His 2007 totals: 122 catches for 1,606 yards and 11 touchdowns; five punt returns for 264 yards (52.8 average) and two scores; and two passing TDs (on four attempts) for 45 yards. Nelson capped off a ridiculously productive senior season with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. While he lacks elite speed and athleticism, Nelson is quicker than people seem to think and he simply knows how to separate and make plays. He will likely slip to the third round of the upcoming draft but it wouldn't shock us if Nelson spends 10-plus productive seasons in the NFL as a possession No. 2 or No. 3 receiver.

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Im telling you guys, you are gonna wish we drafted him if we don't pick him up. If we pick a WR int he first then it wouldn't matter anymore, but if we don't we need to target him in the 2nd for sure! Thats if we were smart.

Either way, we need a WR in the first day (2 rounds this year), so how ever you wanna play it, it needs to be that we either take a WR in the 1st or take Jordy Nelson somewhere in the 2nd. Period.

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I've got a headache. I think it's from being beat over the head with Jordy Nelson.

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Thread judges?

I say a 10 on the unintentional comedy scale.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;440333]I've got a headache. I think it's from being beat over the head with Jordy Nelson.[/QUOTE]

LOL, just imagine how it will be for opposing defenses! hahaha

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;440336]LOL, just imagine how it will be for opposing defenses! hahaha[/quote]

Dude, the only train you've put me on is the 3:10 to :insane:.

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i'm pretty sure 91 is jordy's agent or girlfriend... i mean, wow.

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I think he'd be an EXCELLENT second-round pick-up. I saw a special on him on NFL Network just the other day and they have his stock rising. If he's available at our turn in the second round, we definitely should go for it.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;440360]i'm pretty sure 91 is jordy's agent or girlfriend... i mean, wow.[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen this much slobbering over one player for so long since...Justin Smith

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[quote=SmootSmack;440376]I haven't seen this much slobbering over one player for so long since...Justin Smith[/quote]

I wonder if I ever had a player I felt this strongly about. Maybe Branden Albert but lately I haven't been to attached him, maybe instead opting for Duane Brown. Plus ever since everyone else (including JLC) jumped on the Albert bandwagon, was about the same time I jumped off. Personally I liked it better when it was just me, Randy Thomas, and Mayock, with occasional visits from ThatGuy and others.

91 on the other hand use to throw rocks at our bandwagon from his Jordy bandwagon. If I a see him in real life he will be execute.

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I like Branden Albert, and as a matter of fact if he is there at 21, which it looks like he wont, I think we should go with him there and then Nelson in the 2nd.

We'd fill two needs and have a great start to the draft.

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As for throwing rocks, just be glad our bandwagon guys are paired to be in the first round!
:)

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Jordy Nelson could be a good fit, but I don't know if he has 2nd round value. If he's there, I'd prefer James Hardy from Indiana.

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Jordy Nelson may be the second or third WR taken in the draft. It's no secret what he brings to the table. He's perfect for us as we're looking for a guy who could start opposite of Moss. Randle-El is best used in 3+ WR sets. I've said before that I think of him in the same light as Devin Thomas skill wise.

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Yea, he is in the same skill set as Thomas, but Thomas has better timed speed overall. However, no one is touching Nelson's production.

Thomas had one good year, Nelson has had a few and one breakout year. Contrary to popular belief he should have a first round grade. His speed is under 4.5, and he dwarfs the production of any other receiver in the frat and he has the better work ethic.

We need to "target" him in the 2nd or else we miss out. Once Jordy is gone, the list of receivers that we could use goes down tremendously

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Per JLC:

The fact they are going back to see Kelly again was telling to many within the organization. If Kelly was off the board - or slips in the eyes of the Skins at this next meeting - Limas Sweed of Texas and Jordy Nelson of Kansas State are also high on Washington's receiver board, sources said, and either would be a candidate to be selected [B](Nelson recently visited Redskins Park and came away making a very strong impression, team sources said.[/B]

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;441234]Per JLC:

The fact they are going back to see Kelly again was telling to many within the organization. If Kelly was off the board - or slips in the eyes of the Skins at this next meeting - Limas Sweed of Texas and Jordy Nelson of Kansas State are also high on Washington's receiver board, sources said, and either would be a candidate to be selected [B](Nelson recently visited Redskins Park and came away making a very strong impression, team sources said.[/B][/QUOTE]

I saw that. Frickin sweet!

I see the skins reaching for him in the first if all of their targeted players are off the board, but that isnt gonna be happening.

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;441618]I saw that. Frickin sweet!

I see the skins reaching for him in the first if all of their targeted players are off the board, but that isnt gonna be happening.[/quote]

I'm actually kind of glad that the team liked him. Personally I would love to have all three of the Falcons 2nd round picks as I think theres 3 players we should target in the second round. A corner like Cason or Flowers, or possibly even a S/CB hybrid like Reggie Smith or Charles Godfrey. Then theres the potential of a guy like Duane Brown from Virginia Tech that would not only be able to start at Guard, but he would also be able to fill in at LT if god forbid Samuals went down.

Right now though O-Line might be the one position that I might wait on, as we can get a guy like Tony Hills with our comp pick or even Jeramy Zutah with our third, but Zutah could be gone as early as the 2nd and with Hills I ask myself if we need another injury prone O-Lineman.

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Nelson's stock climbs to possible 2nd round

Mark Janssen [EMAIL="mjanssen@themercury.com"]mjanssen@themercury.com[/EMAIL]

In the midst of all the uncertainty of any professional draft, Jordy Nelson admits, "There's more of a feeling that it's real. It's a feeling that it's going to happen, and not hoping it will happen. It's pretty dang close to being for sure."

The 2008 National Football League Draft will take place on Saturday, April 26, with the first two rounds, followed by the remaining five rounds on Sunday, the 27th.

"I'm hearing second round, or maybe the third round," Nelson said. "My agent has been looking into that quite a bit, and that's what he's hearing ... second round."

[B]Nelson's only on-site NFL visit came this past week when the Washington Redskins[/B] wined and dined the former Wildcat wide receiver on Tuesday and Wednesday.

"They just said they were interested and wanted to see how I might fit in with their team," said Nelson, who is ranked as the 8th best receiver entering the draft after entering the NFL Combine in February ranked between 11th to 15th. "I went out to eat with the owner, head coach and position coach, toured the facility, and met some of the players. They just wanted to find out what kind of person I am."

The Cleveland Browns were going to have Nelson come in for a visit, but cancelled.

"They didn't have a pick until the fourth round, so they called and said they weren't going to go to the trouble to fly me in because I wasn't going to be available in the fourth round," Nelson said.

The seven receivers ranking ahead of Nelson in the draft are: Malcolm Kelly of Oklahoma, Devin Thomas of Michigan State, Limus Sweed of Texas, DeSean Jackson of California, Mario Manningham of Michigan, James Hardy of Indiana, and Early Doucet of LSU.

Of those eight receivers, only Nelson and Thomas have not been "flagged" by the NFL for issues of character, durability, or size for the position.

Nelson's draft score of 84 translates into a potential second-round pick and a player who ranks among the Top 10 at his particular position. Overall, ESPN ranks Nelson as the 49th best player in the draft.
Washington just happens to have the 20th selection in the second round, which is the 51st overall pick in the draft.

In summarizing Nelson's abilities, ESPN's report says, "While he lacks elite speed and athleticism, Nelson is quicker than people seem to think and he simply knows how to separate and make plays. It wouldn't shock us if Nelson spends 10-plus productive seasons in the NFL as a possession No. 2 or No. 3 receiver."

ESPN reports that Nelson is a "... big, strong receiver with extremely reliable hands. Most impressive is his ability to get in and out of breaks so quickly, especially for a bigger receiver."

On the flip side, ESPN says, "(Nelson) lacks ideal top-end speed ... not overly elusive and doesn't display the second-gear necessary to run away from NFL defenders."

For the most part, Nelson has spent his days since the Combine working out at Kansas State.

Now he says, "All the work I can do has been done. Now you just wait for your name to be called."

While the 6-foot-2 5/8, 217-pound Nelson has been working out, he's let his agent do the phone work with NFL teams trying to get a feel for where, and when, he might be drafted.

That agent is Ben McElroy of Houston, who has developed an "in" with the Kansas State family. He's also the agent of former Wildcats Jon McGraw, Yamon Figurs, Ben Leber and Mark Simoneau.

Nelson posted single-season record numbers of 122 catches for 1,606 yards with 11 touchdowns last year, which upped his career totals to 206 receptions for 1,822 yards and 20 touchdowns.

As for Saturday, Nelson says he'll be with his wife, Emily, plus family members for the draft day festivities that begin at 2 in the afternoon.
"I'll watch early to see who the top picks are just because I'm a sports fan, but I'm not going to watch it all day," said Nelson. "I'll be off doing something until the start of the second round, then I might tune in again. I really haven't thought where I might go (in the draft) because I have no control over it. I just want to go (be drafted)."

Laughing he added, "I can tell you this, I'll be somewhere where there's cell phone service."

And when the call comes, "My wife and I have talked about that. We're not sure how we're going to react. I'm sure it will take a while to sink in. When I get drilled at my first practice, that's when the reality will set in."

With fingers crossed

There's a cast of five other Wildcats with hopes of at least signing free agent contracts if not drafted in next Saturday and Sunday's seven-round draft.

Tim Reyer is ranked as the fifth best punter, Justin McKinney as the 33rd best cornerback, Alphonso Moran as the 34th best defensive tackle, Rob Jackson as the 41st best defensive end, Marcus Watts as the 45th best safety, and, James Johnson as the 58th best running back.

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I just want to go on record and predict that if the Redskins can't trade down on draft day (which if Merling is there I hope they don't), then the team will trade up in the second round with the Jets to ensure that the 49er's, Eagles, Saints, Broncos, Bengals, Vikings, and the.....Lions don't grab Jordy Nelson, who now seems to be a favorite at Redskin Park. Anyway I predict the trade will look like so:

Jets get:
Redskins 2-20
Redskins 3-21

Redskins get:
Jets 2-5 and draft Jordy Nelson

I think by the end of Saturday, SkinsFanSince91 is going to be a very happy man.

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we can get the hidden talent in the later rounds 6th or 7th and not on the 2nd round. what we need in this round is the visible talent.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;442553]I just want to go on record and predict that if the Redskins can't trade down on draft day (which if Merling is there I hope they don't), then the team will trade up in the second round with the Jets to ensure that the 49er's, Eagles, Saints, Broncos, Bengals, Vikings, and the.....Lions don't grab Jordy Nelson, who now seems to be a favorite at Redskin Park. Anyway I predict the trade will look like so:

Jets get:
Redskins 2-20
Redskins 3-21

Redskins get:
Jets 2-5 and draft Jordy Nelson

I think by the end of Saturday, SkinsFanSince91 is going to be a very happy man.[/quote]

While you're at it, am I going to have a windfall of money come my way in the next six months?

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Good news for people with man crushes on Jordy Nelson, he met with the Redskins.
[url=http://www.themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=0c0dd69268074529bdd3b0a1bf12b5ec]TheMercury.com - K-State Sports Article[/url]

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;442553]I just want to go on record and predict that if the Redskins can't trade down on draft day (which if Merling is there I hope they don't), then the team will trade up in the second round with the Jets to ensure that the 49er's, Eagles, Saints, Broncos, Bengals, Vikings, and the.....Lions don't grab Jordy Nelson, who now seems to be a favorite at Redskin Park. Anyway I predict the trade will look like so:

Jets get:
Redskins 2-20
Redskins 3-21

Redskins get:
Jets 2-5 and draft Jordy Nelson

I think by the end of Saturday, SkinsFanSince91 is going to be a very happy man.[/QUOTE]

I dont know who is going, but I wll be at FedEx for the draft party. I dont know what Ima have a J Campbell Jersey and a Gold Wizards Hat (like when I worked at the Verizon Center). So, if you are there, holla at me.

On Draft Day, first, I hope that we get all of our needs met. If we dont get a WR in the 1st, then we have to go with J. Nelson. Yes, if we were to grab him, then I owuld be happy, but if he is the only good player that we get, then all that happiness will be tappered.

Come On Skins! Make us feel like we have a REAL franchise, and draft some good players without trading away top picks deteriorating talent.

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[quote=SeanTaylor21;442570]Good news for people with man crushes on Jordy Nelson, he met with the Redskins.
[URL="http://www.themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=0c0dd69268074529bdd3b0a1bf12b5ec"]TheMercury.com - K-State Sports Article[/URL][/quote]

And apparently Redskins One - with Jason Campbell aboard - went from Kelly's workout in Oklahoma up to Kansas where they worked out Nelson.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/04/jordy_nelson.html]Jordy Nelson - Redskins Insider[/url]

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Anyone want to take odds on Jordy being a Redskin come Saturday?Because I think it's obvious they're going to find a way to get him, and with his stock going up as much as it has theres a good chance that the team will have to trade up. Maybe it'll be for a 2nd and 3rd next year, but hopefully it'll be the 2-20/3-21 for 2-5 trade that I predicted.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;442829]Anyone want to take odds on Jordy being a Redskin come Saturday?Because I think it's obvious they're going to find a way to get him, and with his stock going up as much as it has theres a good chance that the team will have to trade up. Maybe it'll be for a 2nd and 3rd next year, but hopefully it'll be the 2-20/3-21 for 2-5 trade that I predicted.[/quote]

That trade makes sense for the Redskins. I wonder if the Jets are going to want to get a QB at the top of the 2nd though. Maybe trading up with the Rams would make sense as well.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;442836]That trade makes sense for the Redskins. I wonder if the Jets are going to want to get a QB at the top of the 2nd though. Maybe trading up with the Rams would make sense as well.[/quote]

Yeah, I agree with the Rams. Drafttek has them going WR in the 2nd round, but chances are they'll be shooting for an O-Lineman, especially since they're projected to go with Long or Dorsey with 1-2 (Round 1 Pick 2). However outside of bluffing in hopes that the Falcons trade up, I don't get how they could go with Dorsey. I mean maybe Dorsey's the BPA but by how much? Maybe one or two points over Long, and considering the glaring need at DE I think that Long has to be the pick.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;442829]Anyone want to take odds on Jordy being a Redskin come Saturday?Because I think it's obvious they're going to find a way to get him, and with [B][I][SIZE="4"]his stock going up[/SIZE][/I][/B] as much as it has theres a good chance that the team will have to trade up. Maybe it'll be for a 2nd and 3rd next year, but hopefully it'll be the 2-20/3-21 for 2-5 trade that I predicted.[/QUOTE]

Yea, so I definitely checked the ESPN insider draft rankings, and Jordy Nelson has went from a 84 to an 86. He also went from being the 8th ranked WR, to the 6th ranked WR.

Im am a fan of Nelson, but if we get a WR in the first, via trade or draft, we need not target him in the 2nd. However, if we don't get a WR from our 1st pick, then we need to target him/Hardy (if he falls) in the 2nd. I'd naturally prefer Nelson, but Hardy is difficult to ignore. Nelson, however, comes without red flags. Hardy has character concerns, and Gioddell's stance on discipline is changing the way teams draft. Teams dont wanna draft a player that will do something foolish and then be suspended from the league for 8 games or a full season.

Nelson seems to be the more prudent decision.

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dudes..i just watched jordy nelson highlight videos on youtube and he is amazing. Hes like the wide reciever version of cooley. and he stiff arms like TO. He also seems to be working harder than anyone on the field. I think if he wasnt a white wide reciever then he would get alot more attention.

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[QUOTE=bigm29;442975]dudes..i just watched jordy nelson highlight videos on youtube and he is amazing. Hes like the wide reciever version of cooley. and he stiff arms like TO. He also seems to be working harder than anyone on the field. I think if he wasnt a white wide reciever then he would get alot more attention.[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way. If he had dreads and was from the "U" he'd be a 1st round pick.

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;435447]This is exactly same question I have been asking myself.. Is Jordy worth it to take in 2nd rd? For some reason, he is only WR I really want Redskins to draft.. I even looked around for other WRs with potentials but I don't have any good feelings about them except for Jordy.. I guess all we can do is wait until and see what plans Redskins made..[/QUOTE]
After reading up on Nelson I am not sold on him at all and not at # 2 but at one of the 3's maybe!

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I'm on board. His RAC ability is what the WCO needs to work. He's faster than Kelly and tougher than Sweed. I agree that we will need to trade up for him, I think he'll go in the top half of the 2nd round.

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So like I was saying all along, Jordy Nelson didn't last long at all, and ended up being the 3rd WR taken.

Im happy that he is in GB. HE got picked by a team that isalready loaded at WR, so he should get a chance to compete for time, which suits him as he has a great work ethic.

Im not mad we didn't get him, because we got WAYYYYYYYY more than I anticipated. we made out "ok" with our picks. Thomas & Kelly over J. Nelson anyday.