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jsarno 04-22-2008 10:36 AM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;441288]who cares what he looks like the point is he can play[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about?

PSUSkinsFan21 04-22-2008 10:44 AM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
The guys that have said that they wouldn't give up a first or second-rounder for Roy Williams and would rather use the draft: Are you serious? I just don't understand that logic. What exactly do you hope to get in the draft in the form of a WR at pick 21, or worse at pick 51 in the second round? With the number of WR busts we see every single year, you'd rather take your chances and spend the draft pick on an unproven rookie than on a veteran, pro-bowl caliber WR? I mean seriously, would you rather spend the same pick on a Taylor Jacobs in the second round with the hope that he's the next great thing than spending that same pick on someone who is already a top 12 WR in the NFL? For every superstar WR to come out of any given draft there are typically dozens of disappointments in the early rounds. I like my odds better with a proven commodity.

SmootSmack 04-22-2008 11:07 AM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;441353]The guys that have said that they wouldn't give up a first or second-rounder for Roy Williams and would rather use the draft: Are you serious? I just don't understand that logic. What exactly do you hope to get in the draft in the form of a WR at pick 21, or worse at pick 51 in the second round? With the number of WR busts we see every single year, you'd rather take your chances and spend the draft pick on an unproven rookie than on a veteran, pro-bowl caliber WR? I mean seriously, would you rather spend the same pick on a Taylor Jacobs in the second round with the hope that he's the next great thing than spending that same pick on someone who is already a top 12 WR in the NFL? For every superstar WR to come out of any given draft there are typically dozens of disappointments in the early rounds. I like my odds better with a proven commodity.[/QUOTE]

Definitely agree. I think people tend to forget that it's not an all or nothing situation. Meaning, shifting to a more "frugal" youth-oriented strategy doesn't mean you ignore all other options. The Redskins have said all along they will spend money if/when a good opportunity presents itself.

That Guy 04-22-2008 04:18 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
welker over moss? come on. that's just a terrible idea in every way.

without moss welker doesn't have that season, as moss is FAR more profilic. it's not even close.

That Guy 04-22-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;441353]The guys that have said that they wouldn't give up a first or second-rounder for Roy Williams and would rather use the draft: Are you serious? I just don't understand that logic. What exactly do you hope to get in the draft in the form of a WR at pick 21, or worse at pick 51 in the second round? With the number of WR busts we see every single year, you'd rather take your chances and spend the draft pick on an unproven rookie than on a veteran, pro-bowl caliber WR? I mean seriously, would you rather spend the same pick on a Taylor Jacobs in the second round with the hope that he's the next great thing than spending that same pick on someone who is already a top 12 WR in the NFL? For every superstar WR to come out of any given draft there are typically dozens of disappointments in the early rounds. I like my odds better with a proven commodity.[/quote]

well, he's really not good enough for a 1st when you have to pay him a next bloated contract right away (CJ would be though). a 2nd would be great though, but he's simply not an elite WR, he's just very good.

redskinsfanatic 04-22-2008 05:18 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
i'd rather have a proven vet than an unproven one.

Paintrain 04-22-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
If I'm Matt Millen, I'm on the horn with Vinny asking for the same deal offered for Ocho Cinco..

skinsfan69 04-22-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
Roy Williams isn't going anywhere people.

Dirtbag59 04-22-2008 05:46 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[quote=Paintrain;441646]If I'm Matt Millen, I'm on the horn with Vinny asking for the same deal offered for Ocho Cinco..[/quote]

Yeah, but if I'm Vinny then I'm tell Matt Millen to fuck off. I'm not about to give out the same deal for an injury prone reciver that doesn't think he's a good fit for a west coast offense. Boldin on the other hand I might be willing to offer a similar deal, but then again Bidwell is as stuborn as they come.

jsarno 04-22-2008 08:35 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[QUOTE=Paintrain;441646]If I'm Matt Millen, I'm on the horn with Vinny asking for the same deal offered for Ocho Cinco..[/QUOTE]

Millen isn't that smart.

Slingin Sammy 33 04-22-2008 09:33 PM

Re: Roy Williams To Skins Heating Up?
 
[quote=Stuck in TX;441344]Welker is a true slot reciever. Also, he can return kicks/punts, and can even kick. He is a hard worker and would be a complete asset to [I]any[/I] #1 receiver be it Moss, Ward, or even whoever the #1 is in Miami. IMO, and I must stress this [U][B]IMO[/B][/U], Moss is expendable. The right combination of #1, #2, and #3 receivers is key to success. Its like the two back system. The days of one huge receiver are over, and Welker is its pioneer. He has that unique characteristic to complement any #1 receiver. This is just one twisted veiw, so please dont hurt me.... but once again, give me a choice and I would pick Welker over Moss any day[/quote]
I wouldn't say a twisted view, just a different way to look at things. I don't agree, but I understand where you're coming from.

Most #1 receivers in the NFL are not on Moss' level. The things Moss can do are close to unique in the NFL and there are only 2-3 WRs who have the abilities he does. Would Welker still be productive and the system function without Moss, sure, but it would certainly be much less potent.


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